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Why do i waste troops to pull castles but the castles dont fully dump? Why do defense troops not turn and attack clan castle troops when those troops are being used as defense? QQ QQ QQ
Something needs to be done about this. I cant waste troops on pulling a castle and not have the castle fully dump. Either make defensive troops smart enough to turn and attack castle troops or make castles fully dump when a troops is in range. Thank you
I think you will be able to dump them all, just not at the same time
I think Golbert is talking about the clan castle in its defensive mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by SorrowCat
When it's triggered, he would like to see all units come out to defend, instead of sometimes just a few.
Either that, or he was actually referring to castle troops being used in an attack.
In that case: Attacking Castle troops are always dumped in total, one after the other.
Also, any defensive unit will 'turn around' to attack invading attacking units.
I don't know, maybe is one of thoseQuote:
Originally Posted by Bushdoctor
Use a giant to draw then out... It will stay alive long enough to draw them out... I'm sure you'll live by sacrificing 1 giant
i thought this is for attacking. I feel that full dump should be available on attacking. it's frustrating to see balloons drops in one by one when they are already slow enough to begin with
Most of my clanmate and myself included are taking advantage of CC troops coming out one by one for defense. We try to have 2 to 4 wizards in our CCs and the rest are filled with archers.
Why? Because greater number of CC troops takes longer to lure out all of them. A maxed CC filled with 8 wizards and 3 archers only have 11 troops to lure out while the same CC filled with 35 archers will take more than 3x the amount of time required exposed to enemies, giving defenses more time to clear up the lures.
The current system is a lot better than one time exit for defending CC troops as it allows more defensive strategies available.
I was talking about when the clan castle was on defense. Sorry that I did not clarify. Thank you for the tip on getting them to all come out by using a giant. I currently run 27 hog riders, 3 dragons and 5 barbarians for competitive play. Having to waste hogs to get troops out because my 5 barbarians cant pull everything out without dieing due to clan castles dumping too slow is really annoying. Ill try the giant strat out and see if I have more consistency.
I understand that people use the current system with defending clan castle troops by making it harder to pull them all at once. I'm not sure if this strat was an intentional design put in by supercell. This is why I proposed the second idea of defense attacking troops(hog riders) turning and killing clan castle troops. The clan castle troops are being used as a defense right? Why arent hogs, giants, balloons etc. turning and killing them? Its a contradiction within the system. IMO it should be fixed.
You mean, why do your attacking giants keep on bashing walls while they are being shot in the buttocksQuote:
Originally Posted by golbert
by the defending clan troops? Yea, that's something I'd like to know as well. It seems more than just dumb.
Like giants have an extra chromosome or something.
Or simply, why are my troops who are suppose to be attacking defenses not attacking defenses?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushdoctor
Its a strategy game. Ithink you forgot the whole idea. It wouldnt be fair if one archer took out twenty troops out of the cc so then you can use a lightning spell all at once and continue your raid
So using a lightning spell isnt strategy? Cognitive dissonance. Why should the strategy based off manipulation of a timer be more acceptable than using a lightning spell? The unfair thing here is that castles can be placed badly but still not be pulled because of some stupid timer being manipulated. I didnt forget about the whole strategy, I simply noticed a strategy based off manipulation of game design. Fair would be my strategy which is not manipulating a flaw in game design being pitted against other strategies not manipulating a flaw in game design.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kronos42097
Im all for keeping the current flaw in game design, just let my hog riders attack clan castle troops if they are the closest defensive unit.
The "flaw" you mentioned is intentional as troop deployment from CCs have been quickened in a previous update, they did not choose to deploy all troops at once, but decided to make troops come out faster from CCs be it for offense or defense. It's not a flaw BTW. I see nothing wrong with giving defense more chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by golbert
Defense/offense in a game IS about manipulating game design, walls are designed to be tough and defenses are manipulating them by surrounding buildings with them so giants will have a harder time getting thier fists on cannons. Wallbreakers are designed to break the walls so giants dont have to waste time and hitpoints trying to smash the walls. CCs with a large number of troops takes time and skill to be emptied so manipulate your troops to to try and lure them all out.
The logic of the 'flaw' you mentioned will also make the wall's high hitpoints a flaw. Why do giants have to take a long time to break the walls first before being able to reach the juicy mortar?
If hogs will target the nearest troops, then full hog raids will become godly. Bring nothing else but hogs for the best chance to 3 star bases. Hogs for lure, hogs for killing cc troops, hogs to clear up defenses and hogs for cleanup. As of right now, anyone bringing 55 hog riders against a base with good cc defense troops will have worse chance to 3 star the base compared to an army of 30 hogs and other troops by a fair margin.
I like the idea if defence liking troops attacking clan castle troops, bk and aq. Regarding clan castle troops leaving the clan castle at the same time, I have a lvl6 vlan castle with 35 troops. If they all tried to leave at the same time, they'd get stuck in the door. It is only a little door.Quote:
Originally Posted by golbert
Imo you should fix your attack strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by golbert
CoC is nearly perfectly balanced (pigs a bit op, walkyres wa y to underused etc.)
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Originally Posted by magnor
Indeed. Such a tiny door. I'm reminded of Barnum and Baileys clown car.
+1 for this.