hogs and infernos- please nerf

supercell, please downgrade hogs and inferno towers. im going to list the chain of events that happened since hogs were upgraded to attacking defences first:

1. they smash almost any base that isnt a th10
2. if you are a th9 or below, and someone is using level 4+ hogs, you are done
3. in the process of making hogs less overpowered you made the multi shot inferno tower (here is where it gets good)
4. now that you have the the multi shot infernos, any th lower than 10 can almost kiss every chance they have of 2 or 3 starring a th10 goodbye
5. gemmers now have an advantage (this is what you wanted right supercell?)
6. normal farming bases now dont work. you have to use an anti-hog base layout (which is impossible to make for th8 and below) which means you leave your loot very un-protected
7. they only take up 5 troop space

FIXES-
1. nerf the hitpoints and dps of hogs
2. make them cost more to upgrade, and to train
3. give th9 1 or 2 infernos to balance the game
4. max wizard towers do 1.5-2 times the damage to hogs?
5. make them attack every building like pre-update
6. take them out of the game completely
7. make them take up 10 troop space

INFERNO TOWER PROBLEM-
inferno towers were balanced perfectly before the hog update. because of hogs, you made them the most irritating things. th8- and below have almost NO chance of defeating a th10, and th9's have to use everything they have against a th10, being lucky to get even just a 2 star. why do you make it to where a th10 can hog a th9 with ease, but if that th9 wants revenge he wont succeed? the game was great before the hog and inferno updates (and the loot update -_- but dont get me started on that..) so i dont see why you had to make it worse. i dont even get why you wouldnt do something about this. there are MANY people that feel the same way.

share your thoughts guys

Wow. I really believe you. What i think should be nerfed about hogs should be their hp. Their hp is somewhat similar to a giant but its just big guy riding a pig. My choice about hogs is just target everything. Keep updating this. Nice thread

1. they smash almost any base that isnt a th10 - build an anti-hog base, it can be done.2. if you are a th9 or below, and someone is using level 4+ hogs, you are done - if someone uses gowiwi, you are too, do you remove that?
3. in the process of making hogs less overpowered you made the multi shot inferno tower (here is where it gets good) - you have the option to make it single or multi, players choice if they want to go anti-hog or anti golem.
4. now that you have the the multi shot infernos, any th lower than 10 can almost kiss every chance they have of 2 or 3 starring a th10 goodbye - lower TH's should have a hard time 2 or 3ing a standard TH10 base, why should it be otherwise?
5. gemmers now have an advantage (this is what you wanted right supercell?) - they have always had the advantage, they make the game free for the rest of us.
6. normal farming bases now dont work. you have to use an anti-hog base layout (which is impossible to make for th8 and below) which means you leave your loot very un-protected - you're farming, you're not trying to win the battle, you hope that some sniper comes along and gives you a 12 hour shield. You want to win the battle, make a war base, not a farming base.
7. they only take up 5 troop space - Wiz take up only 4, I'd take L6 Wiz over L5 Hogs.

FIXES-
1. nerf the hitpoints and dps of hogs - and turn them into Valks which no one uses?
2. make them cost more to upgrade, and to train - won't have any material impact, if they're still that OP, people will just wait longer
3. give th9 1 or 2 infernos to balance the game - why not a TH8 or 7 as well? and what'd be left for TH10s?
4. max wizard towers do 1.5-2 times the damage to hogs? Wizard Towers already do a number on hogs, that splash damage is killer
5. make them attack every building like pre-update - they'd be sitting ducks (or hogs) trying to take out some of the buildings
6. take them out of the game completely - sounds draconian

INFERNO TOWER PROBLEM-
inferno towers were balanced perfectly before the hog update. because of hogs, you made them the most irritating things. th8- and below have almost NO chance of defeating a th10 (and really, should they), and th9's have to use everything they have against a th10, being lucky to get even just a 2 star (again, should they? you're going up against a better base with lesser troops). why do you make it to where a th10 can hog a th9 with ease, but if that th9 wants revenge he wont succeed? (bc what would be the point of upgrading then, you level up, you get more kick@$$ stuff) the game was great before the hog and inferno updates (and the loot update -_- but dont get me started on that..) so i dont see why you had to make it worse. i dont even get why you wouldnt do something about this. there are MANY people that feel the same way (gotta learn how to control it and get to TH10. You want to get past hogs, have fun with gowiwi)

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Originally Posted by Jobsian23

1. they smash almost any base that isnt a th10 - build an anti-hog base, it can be done.2. if you are a th9 or below, and someone is using level 4+ hogs, you are done - if someone uses gowiwi, you are too, do you remove that?
3. in the process of making hogs less overpowered you made the multi shot inferno tower (here is where it gets good) - you have the option to make it single or multi, players choice if they want to go anti-hog or anti golem.
4. now that you have the the multi shot infernos, any th lower than 10 can almost kiss every chance they have of 2 or 3 starring a th10 goodbye - lower TH's should have a hard time 2 or 3ing a standard TH10 base, why should it be otherwise?
5. gemmers now have an advantage (this is what you wanted right supercell?) - they have always had the advantage, they make the game free for the rest of us.
6. normal farming bases now dont work. you have to use an anti-hog base layout (which is impossible to make for th8 and below) which means you leave your loot very un-protected - you're farming, you're not trying to win the battle, you hope that some sniper comes along and gives you a 12 hour shield. You want to win the battle, make a war base, not a farming base.
7. they only take up 5 troop space - Wiz take up only 4, I'd take L6 Wiz over L5 Hogs.

FIXES-
1. nerf the hitpoints and dps of hogs - and turn them into Valks which no one uses?
2. make them cost more to upgrade, and to train - won't have any material impact, if they're still that OP, people will just wait longer
3. give th9 1 or 2 infernos to balance the game - why not a TH8 or 7 as well? and what'd be left for TH10s?
4. max wizard towers do 1.5-2 times the damage to hogs? Wizard Towers already do a number on hogs, that splash damage is killer
5. make them attack every building like pre-update - they'd be sitting ducks (or hogs) trying to take out some of the buildings
6. take them out of the game completely - sounds draconian

INFERNO TOWER PROBLEM-
inferno towers were balanced perfectly before the hog update. because of hogs, you made them the most irritating things. th8- and below have almost NO chance of defeating a th10 (and really, should they), and th9's have to use everything they have against a th10, being lucky to get even just a 2 star (again, should they? you're going up against a better base with lesser troops). why do you make it to where a th10 can hog a th9 with ease, but if that th9 wants revenge he wont succeed? (bc what would be the point of upgrading then, you level up, you get more kick@$$ stuff) the game was great before the hog and inferno updates (and the loot update -_- but dont get me started on that..) so i dont see why you had to make it worse. i dont even get why you wouldnt do something about this. there are MANY people that feel the same way (gotta learn how to control it and get to TH10. You want to get past hogs, have fun with gowiwi)

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i get hogged all the time while farming, so i have to make an anti hog base while farming. it honestly sounds like you are one of the many pathetic people who posses no skill whatsoever, and only use hogs. MANY people have the same problems as me because they are lower th's. hogs and infernos make the game no fun for lower people. put yourself in a th8's shoes for a moment and truly see how bad this is.

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Originally Posted by Jobsian23

1. they smash almost any base that isnt a th10 - build an anti-hog base, it can be done.2. if you are a th9 or below, and someone is using level 4+ hogs, you are done - if someone uses gowiwi, you are too, do you remove that?
3. in the process of making hogs less overpowered you made the multi shot inferno tower (here is where it gets good) - you have the option to make it single or multi, players choice if they want to go anti-hog or anti golem.
4. now that you have the the multi shot infernos, any th lower than 10 can almost kiss every chance they have of 2 or 3 starring a th10 goodbye - lower TH's should have a hard time 2 or 3ing a standard TH10 base, why should it be otherwise?
5. gemmers now have an advantage (this is what you wanted right supercell?) - they have always had the advantage, they make the game free for the rest of us.
6. normal farming bases now dont work. you have to use an anti-hog base layout (which is impossible to make for th8 and below) which means you leave your loot very un-protected - you're farming, you're not trying to win the battle, you hope that some sniper comes along and gives you a 12 hour shield. You want to win the battle, make a war base, not a farming base.
7. they only take up 5 troop space - Wiz take up only 4, I'd take L6 Wiz over L5 Hogs.

FIXES-
1. nerf the hitpoints and dps of hogs - and turn them into Valks which no one uses?
2. make them cost more to upgrade, and to train - won't have any material impact, if they're still that OP, people will just wait longer
3. give th9 1 or 2 infernos to balance the game - why not a TH8 or 7 as well? and what'd be left for TH10s?
4. max wizard towers do 1.5-2 times the damage to hogs? Wizard Towers already do a number on hogs, that splash damage is killer
5. make them attack every building like pre-update - they'd be sitting ducks (or hogs) trying to take out some of the buildings
6. take them out of the game completely - sounds draconian

INFERNO TOWER PROBLEM-
inferno towers were balanced perfectly before the hog update. because of hogs, you made them the most irritating things. th8- and below have almost NO chance of defeating a th10 (and really, should they), and th9's have to use everything they have against a th10, being lucky to get even just a 2 star (again, should they? you're going up against a better base with lesser troops). why do you make it to where a th10 can hog a th9 with ease, but if that th9 wants revenge he wont succeed? (bc what would be the point of upgrading then, you level up, you get more kick@$$ stuff) the game was great before the hog and inferno updates (and the loot update -_- but dont get me started on that..) so i dont see why you had to make it worse. i dont even get why you wouldnt do something about this. there are MANY people that feel the same way (gotta learn how to control it and get to TH10. You want to get past hogs, have fun with gowiwi)

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LOL, u dont really get the reason of this post.. Were u dropped as a child?

been hogged many times, still do. grow up and learn how to play within the changes, don't moan about it and want to make everything the 'way it was'.

and yes, i use hogs quite often in CWs. Also use dragons if people don't have proper air defenses. want dragons nerfed too?

Why wouldn't I use hogs? they're efficient for what i need. Only a fool wouldn't use a great troop.

You want to stop being hogged, level up and get those multi-infernos.

The game is a give and play on offense and defense. Always needs to have a counter to every attack.

Dropped as a child, probably, i didn't live in a bubble like you seem to be. You seriously think you weren't dropped as a child? you must not be a parent or you have everything wrapped in bubble plastic.

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Originally Posted by Jobsian23

1. they smash almost any base that isnt a th10 - build an anti-hog base, it can be done.2. if you are a th9 or below, and someone is using level 4+ hogs, you are done - if someone uses gowiwi, you are too, do you remove that?
3. in the process of making hogs less overpowered you made the multi shot inferno tower (here is where it gets good) - you have the option to make it single or multi, players choice if they want to go anti-hog or anti golem.
4. now that you have the the multi shot infernos, any th lower than 10 can almost kiss every chance they have of 2 or 3 starring a th10 goodbye - lower TH's should have a hard time 2 or 3ing a standard TH10 base, why should it be otherwise?
5. gemmers now have an advantage (this is what you wanted right supercell?) - they have always had the advantage, they make the game free for the rest of us.
6. normal farming bases now dont work. you have to use an anti-hog base layout (which is impossible to make for th8 and below) which means you leave your loot very un-protected - you're farming, you're not trying to win the battle, you hope that some sniper comes along and gives you a 12 hour shield. You want to win the battle, make a war base, not a farming base.
7. they only take up 5 troop space - Wiz take up only 4, I'd take L6 Wiz over L5 Hogs.

FIXES-
1. nerf the hitpoints and dps of hogs - and turn them into Valks which no one uses?
2. make them cost more to upgrade, and to train - won't have any material impact, if they're still that OP, people will just wait longer
3. give th9 1 or 2 infernos to balance the game - why not a TH8 or 7 as well? and what'd be left for TH10s?
4. max wizard towers do 1.5-2 times the damage to hogs? Wizard Towers already do a number on hogs, that splash damage is killer
5. make them attack every building like pre-update - they'd be sitting ducks (or hogs) trying to take out some of the buildings
6. take them out of the game completely - sounds draconian

INFERNO TOWER PROBLEM-
inferno towers were balanced perfectly before the hog update. because of hogs, you made them the most irritating things. th8- and below have almost NO chance of defeating a th10 (and really, should they), and th9's have to use everything they have against a th10, being lucky to get even just a 2 star (again, should they? you're going up against a better base with lesser troops). why do you make it to where a th10 can hog a th9 with ease, but if that th9 wants revenge he wont succeed? (bc what would be the point of upgrading then, you level up, you get more kick@$$ stuff) the game was great before the hog and inferno updates (and the loot update -_- but dont get me started on that..) so i dont see why you had to make it worse. i dont even get why you wouldnt do something about this. there are MANY people that feel the same way (gotta learn how to control it and get to TH10. You want to get past hogs, have fun with gowiwi)

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Most dumbest post I've ever seen in forums

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Originally Posted by Jobsian23

been hogged many times, still do. grow up and learn how to play within the changes, don't moan about it and want to make everything the 'way it was'.

and yes, i use hogs quite often in CWs. Also use dragons if people don't have proper air defenses. want dragons nerfed too?

Why wouldn't I use hogs? they're efficient for what i need. Only a fool wouldn't use a great troop.

You want to stop being hogged, level up and get those multi-infernos.

The game is a give and play on offense and defense. Always needs to have a counter to every attack.

Dropped as a child, probably, i didn't live in a bubble like you seem to be. You seriously think you weren't dropped as a child? you must not be a parent or you have everything wrapped in bubble plastic.

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1st- are you mad?
2nd- did you just admit to having brain damage?

mad? lol . . . srsly, come up with a real reply.

you're hating on a troop you can't compete with . . . so level up, get more upgrades and clash on.


Also, you think that getting dropped will cause brain damage every time? You're the one making absolute conclusions.

A TH9 really don't need hogs to 3 star a TH8 and below, and TH9 are using new tactics to destroy the infernos, like raging the hogs when they are near them... I know that a lot of people like to use hogs and it bring a new aspect to the game like making anti-hog base and fiding way to stop them without complaining, i'm a TH8 and i have an anti hogs that works great.

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Originally Posted by Jobsian23

been hogged many times, still do. grow up and learn how to play within the changes, don't moan about it and want to make everything the 'way it was'.

and yes, i use hogs quite often in CWs. Also use dragons if people don't have proper air defenses. want dragons nerfed too?

Why wouldn't I use hogs? they're efficient for what i need. Only a fool wouldn't use a great troop.

You want to stop being hogged, level up and get those multi-infernos.

The game is a give and play on offense and defense. Always needs to have a counter to every attack.

Dropped as a child, probably, i didn't live in a bubble like you seem to be. You seriously think you weren't dropped as a child? you must not be a parent or you have everything wrapped in bubble plastic.

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Frist of all no one is telling u not to use hogs kid, noobs will be noobs.. If u need to use hogs cause you cant use blanced troops go right ahead.. why use an army that has no skill or strategy in a game that is all about STRATEGY? Where is the fun in that?

Secondly, the post is asking supercell to fix a clear problem in the game! The post didnt ask a kid, that was apparently dropped several times as a kid as u made it seem, for dumb comments!

Thridly, and most importantly, are you mad or naw?

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Originally Posted by Jobsian23

mad? lol . . . srsly, come up with a real reply.

you're hating on a troop you can't compete with . . . so level up, get more upgrades and clash on.


Also, you think that getting dropped will cause brain damage every time? You're the one making absolute conclusions.

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people keep putting you on blast, so i would just be quite.

ps, U MAD?

or you could use what is given to you to be successful . . . hogs are given to for you to use, so use them, but i see how you are "i don't want to use hogs because i need to use 'strategy' . . . what can i do that's different than hogs".

great, so you can make a creative troop combo that works, is barching any better than hogs? Gowiwi? Giant/Healer? Dragon/Rage? Pick your poison, they all work to certain extent versus different bases.

This one time i was getting attacked by 60 barbarians, and it was by these TH3s would attack me . . . so you know what i did? I kept playing and leveled up. I got Wiz Towers, I got Morters, I got better cannons and archer towers, I got traps, Bombs, Giant bombs, Teslas, walls that take forever to get through . . . I upgraded my stuff so i wouldn't get taken by barbs and you know something, I haven't been barbed in forever. you want to not get taken by hogs, upgrade your stuff. and then have fun against gowiwi

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Originally Posted by Jobsian23

or you could use what is given to you to be successful . . . hogs are given to for you to use, so use them, but i see how you are "i don't want to use hogs because i need to use 'strategy' . . . what can i do that's different than hogs".

great, so you can make a creative troop combo that works, is barching any better than hogs? Gowiwi? Giant/Healer? Dragon/Rage? Pick your poison, they all work to certain extent versus different bases.

This one time i was getting attacked by 60 barbarians, and it was by these TH 2s and 3s would attack me . . . so you know what i did? I kept playing and leveled up. I got Wiz Towers, I got Morters, I got better cannons and archer towers, I got traps, Bombs, Giant bombs, Teslas, walls that take forever to get through . . . I upgraded my stuff so i wouldn't get taken by barbs and you know something, I haven't been barbed in forever. you want to not get taken by hogs, upgrade your stuff. and then have fun against gowiwi

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*FIX YOUR SPELLING AND GRAMMAR..*

there is a screen shot of my base, i dont have any problem with hogs.. But i do see the issue with them, to think the game is balanced with them is outrageous.

Like i said before "use hogs no one is telling u not to use them"... The post wasn't made to tell people not to use them, so why r you arguing or trying to justify using them...

I've seen your post on the forums, and its people like you that are ruining the game..

Btw please stop replying, ever time you do u lose brain cells.. So do i from trying to understand what your saying..

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Originally Posted by TheDon9399

*FIX YOUR SPELLING AND GRAMMAR..*

there is a screen shot of my base, i dont have any problem with hogs.. But i do see the issue with them, to think the game is balanced with them is outrageous.

Like i said before "use hogs no one is telling u not to use them"... The post wasn't made to tell people not to use them, so why r you arguing or trying to justify using them...

I've seen your post on the forums, and its people like you that are ruining the game..

Btw please stop replying, ever time you do u lose brain cells.. So do i from trying to understand what your saying..

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Really? You want me to fix my grammar and spelling? Wow!

So you made a base that is anti-hog, you fixed the problem yourself. Are they overpowered? Sure they are, but they're part of the game, so use them. And the original poster had a solution of getting rid of them all together, that's basically saying not to use them. And you know who love hogs, people that use them for attacking. You know who hates hogs, people that have to defend against them.

How am I ruining the game? By telling people to use the resources that CoC gives you to build up? By telling people that you need to keep improving and adapting to the changes in the game? Please tell me how I'm ruining the game. You know what ruins the game? People that think that TH8s should have an easy time against TH10s. People who think that using multiple troop types all of a sudden makes them have 'strategy'. You use what works, you don't just create a troop combo because you want to have 'strategy'. I could make lots of combinations of troops, but they'd be terrible. How about a 14 Healers with the rest Balloons? How about Wall Breakers and Minions? Or what about Golems and Barbarians? Creating different troop combinations doesn't make you have 'strategy'.

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Originally Posted by Jobsian23

Really? You want me to fix my grammar and spelling? Wow!

So you made a base that is anti-hog, you fixed the problem yourself. Are they overpowered? Sure they are, but they're part of the game, so use them. And the original poster had a solution of getting rid of them all together, that's basically saying not to use them. And you know who love hogs, people that use them for attacking. You know who hates hogs, people that have to defend against them.

How am I ruining the game? By telling people to use the resources that CoC gives you to build up? By telling people that you need to keep improving and adapting to the changes in the game? Please tell me how I'm ruining the game. You know what ruins the game? People that think that TH8s should have an easy time against TH10s. People who think that using multiple troop types all of a sudden makes them have 'strategy'. You use what works, you don't just create a troop combo because you want to have 'strategy'. I could make lots of combinations of troops, but they'd be terrible. How about a 14 Healers with the rest Balloons? How about Wall Breakers and Minions? Or what about Golems and Barbarians? Creating different troop combinations doesn't make you have 'strategy'.

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that base isnt anti hog smart one. im starting to think you dont even play this game

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Originally Posted by Jobsian23

Really? You want me to fix my grammar and spelling? Wow!

So you made a base that is anti-hog, you fixed the problem yourself. Are they overpowered? Sure they are, but they're part of the game, so use them. And the original poster had a solution of getting rid of them all together, that's basically saying not to use them. And you know who love hogs, people that use them for attacking. You know who hates hogs, people that have to defend against them.

How am I ruining the game? By telling people to use the resources that CoC gives you to build up? By telling people that you need to keep improving and adapting to the changes in the game? Please tell me how I'm ruining the game. You know what ruins the game? People that think that TH8s should have an easy time against TH10s. People who think that using multiple troop types all of a sudden makes them have 'strategy'. You use what works, you don't just create a troop combo because you want to have 'strategy'. I could make lots of combinations of troops, but they'd be terrible. How about a 14 Healers with the rest Balloons? How about Wall Breakers and Minions? Or what about Golems and Barbarians? Creating different troop combinations doesn't make you have 'strategy'.

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Kid ur not a good listener.. I said dont reply.. God u must have been dropped hard!!! ..and implying that the post is saying not to use hogs? ♥♥♥.. Are you trying to analyze the ♥♥♥♥en post like its a ♥♥♥♥en a novel? The post is very clear!! FIX A PROBLEM!! If you dont have a good idea on how to fix a clear problem in the game.. Then dont reply to the post.. You are just complaining and trying to defend the only troop that u know how to use.. Its almost like ur scared of losing them... So now the big question is... R u scared or NAW?!?!

So you think there's only one type of anti-hog base? Lots of bases can be anti-hog, it's not a base design, but an idea on how to combat them, and to each their own. Any base that does well against hogs is anti-hog.

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Originally Posted by Jobsian23

So you think there's only one type of anti-hog base? Lots of bases can be anti-hog, it's not a base design, but an idea on how to combat them, and to each their own. Any base that does well against hogs is anti-hog.

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that base would not do well against mass hog.. do you even know what an anti hog base looks like?

Oh, well, if TheDon9399 said not to reply, I MUST listen to his asinine demands!

And you're still not good at spelling and grammar!

The only troop I don't use is witches and that's because I haven't upgraded my Dark Barracks that far yet. Hogs aren't used against multi-Inferno Towers, and do you know why? Because CoC has a way to neuter hogs. It's built into the game. There's no reason to make then less so. You just keep playing and you eventually get your Inferno Towers and you set them on multi and you place them well and no more hogs. It's as simple as that.

Anti-hog base, well let's see . . . the last hog attack against me had 24 L5 Hogs, 69 L6 Archers, 9 L6 Wiz, some other stuff and a couple of L6 Heal spells . . . and got me 28 trophies . . .

Last CW I gave up 1 star to 30 L5 hogs, 4 max heal spells and rest L6 troops

So yeah, I think I have an idea.

And I'm TH9 btw, so I'm right in that wheelhouse for getting hogged. I love when the hogs come because I know I stand a good chance of winning.

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Originally Posted by Jobsian23

Anti-hog base, well let's see . . . the last hog attack against me had 24 L5 Hogs, 69 L6 Archers, 9 L6 Wiz, some other stuff and a couple of L6 Heal spells . . . and got me 28 trophies . . .

Last CW I gave up 1 star to 30 L5 hogs, 4 max heal spells and rest L6 troops

So yeah, I think I have an idea.

And I'm TH9 btw, so I'm right in that wheelhouse for getting hogged. I love when the hogs come because I know I stand a good chance of winning.

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well lets see your base

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Originally Posted by Jobsian23

Oh, well, if TheDon9399 said not to reply, I MUST listen to his asinine demands!

And you're still not good at spelling and grammar!

The only troop I don't use is witches and that's because I haven't upgraded my Dark Barracks that far yet. Hogs aren't used against multi-Inferno Towers, and do you know why? Because CoC has a way to neuter hogs. It's built into the game. There's no reason to make then less so. You just keep playing and you eventually get your Inferno Towers and you set them on multi and you place them well and no more hogs. It's as simple as that.

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...omg this kid still doenst understand the post...

and still u talk about the troops u use.. No one cares!!! U know why people dont complaine about gowiwi?
cause its a strategy in the game.. People play this game for strategy.. Which there isnt in using hogs.. Thats the problem but yet ur to dumb and childish to see it...and yes u can call me master if u like... Everyone but u sees what this post is meant for..? ignorance is bliss..

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Originally Posted by TheDon9399

...omg this kid still doenst understand the post...

and still u talk about the troops u use.. No one cares!!! U know why people dont complaine about gowiwi?
cause its a strategy in the game.. People play this game for strategy.. Which there isnt in using hogs.. Thats the problem but yet ur to dumb and childish to see it...and yes u can call me master if u like... Everyone but u sees what this post is meant for..? ignorance is bliss..

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If you don't like getting hogged then why don't you join them. Also it takes a great deal of DE now just to use hogs. I would like to see you use a hog strategy and keep your DE storage full and raid for 6 hours. If you can do that then maybe you have something to say but if you can't keep you DE storage full you will understand how hard it would be if you use that strategy all the time.:mad::mad:. 😱are hogs really op then why am I not raided by 6 people a day with hogs but instead they use a stratagy?

Also if infernos are so op then why don't you work out a strategy that works for you and use it. Also if infernos are op with damage on multi target why can't I say that teslas are op on my pekkas as they get electrified by them and my pekkas get fried by infernos on single.

also by your logic that something is op cause it easily gets 1 star I can say minions are op as if I had a base and there is a th surrounded by walls lvl 11 and everything is not in range of the th a minion is op compared to a golem as the minion will fly over the walls and destroy the th while the golem will try to smash through the walls. Not mentioning the a golem goes for defences either.

all things have there strengths and weakness and in this case a weakness for the inferno is freeze spells, also if you say "but you can only get them at lvl 10 th well ... Gem, that's what supercell wants you to do (spend money), not so they can be pricks and take your money but so they can actually make a living off what the company earns or would you rather supercell go broke and you be able to play CoC?

From reading this I can clearly tell you're premature TH9 who's rushed their base and now wants Supercell to fix it for you with a bunch of silly updates.

Lol the forums r filled with kids.. Thought i was talking to mature semi adult people.. Just realize u guys r all f u c k e n 12! Ahaha

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Originally Posted by DareToZlatan

i get hogged all the time while farming, so i have to make an anti hog base while farming. it honestly sounds like you are one of the many pathetic people who posses no skill whatsoever, and only use hogs. MANY people have the same problems as me because they are lower th's. hogs and infernos make the game no fun for lower people. put yourself in a th8's shoes for a moment and truly see how bad this is.

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i only feel happy when a th10 attacks me with lv5 hogs! im pretty sure the th10 would have cost more to make the troops than he can get from me. there is 20% loot penalty for them.hogs are already expensive. ucant use them for every attack. i have never been three star raided with hogs in my current base. i make 18 of them fly in the air with springs! three giant bombs kill them on spot! im not scared of hog riders! i use hogs if them opponent has a pocketed base. otherwise i use other attack strategies and succeed.

im not an expert, just. level 60 th8

I don't buy this. I was just attacked by a hog army and crushed it. No stars. Zero. Don't know what your doing but that is war. Change your base, instead of trying to get the developers to come down to your level. If there wouldn't be the inferno tower you'd be whinning that the xbow shoots to fast or has to much range.

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I don't buy this. I was just attacked by a hog army and crushed it. No stars. Zero. Don't know what your doing but that is war. Change your base, instead of trying to get the developers to come down to your level. If there wouldn't be the inferno tower you'd be whinning that the xbow shoots to fast or has to much range.

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whinning

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Seriously though.. Guys, there's no point in arguing if you don't think that you can actually convince the other side to believe that your point of view is better. If you don't convince SC that they are worth nerfing then you might as well not say anything..

My point of view- It's fine.

This is irrelevant though, because no one who disagrees with me will be persuaded by that.

built infernos,
use double giant bomb in your base
spread your base
place springtraps in a wa y every hog attack has to pass em
unlurable/hard to lure CC

There are so many things to do against hogs just do it.
It is just like air defense: You have to upgrade them only cause there a people using loonian (and the cw-exklusive mass-Dragon)

I dont want to upgrade my ad cause it takes incredibly long so sc would you politely forbide loonian?

The game is about farming not about complaining.


greetz the1.

Assuming that u have no idea how the game works theres something called having a good base and base design.. After I switched to Anti hog set up havnt been raided for more than 89k as th9 nor have I been hogged since

Hogs can be defended against, basically make a ring of defense buildings close enough to each other to form a path lvl 6 giants, balloons and hogs will follow. Then put spring traps and bombs in between. 2 lvl 3 giant bombs next to each other will kill an entire hog train up to lvl 4. In other words, hogs are imo not OP.

I do agree however on inferno towers being OP. Anyone who disagrees, explain to me why there are so many bases in crystal I, Masters III, ... with lvl 6 walls, overall weak defenses except for the dreaded inferno towers.

Unless it was Supercell's intention to create a defense so powerful it is a waste of time to invest much in other defenses, I only see 3 solutions: make the freeze spell available to spell factory lvl 4, allow healing of inferno tower targets or nerf the inferno towers so lvl 9s at least have a fair chance if the other defenses of the TH10 base are relatively weak.

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i get hogged all the time while farming, so i have to make an anti hog base while farming. it honestly sounds like you are one of the many pathetic people who posses no skill whatsoever, and only use hogs. MANY people have the same problems as me because they are lower th's. hogs and infernos make the game no fun for lower people. put yourself in a th8's shoes for a moment and truly see how bad this is.

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Whoa now!! What do u mean hogs take no skill!? They suck if u don't use them right! I had to attack with them about 10 times before I finally got the hang with them, and I still ain't amazing

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1. they smash almost any base that isnt a th10 - build an anti-hog base, it can be done.2. if you are a th9 or below, and someone is using level 4+ hogs, you are done - if someone uses gowiwi, you are too, do you remove that?
3. in the process of making hogs less overpowered you made the multi shot inferno tower (here is where it gets good) - you have the option to make it single or multi, players choice if they want to go anti-hog or anti golem.
4. now that you have the the multi shot infernos, any th lower than 10 can almost kiss every chance they have of 2 or 3 starring a th10 goodbye - lower TH's should have a hard time 2 or 3ing a standard TH10 base, why should it be otherwise?
5. gemmers now have an advantage (this is what you wanted right supercell?) - they have always had the advantage, they make the game free for the rest of us.
6. normal farming bases now dont work. you have to use an anti-hog base layout (which is impossible to make for th8 and below) which means you leave your loot very un-protected - you're farming, you're not trying to win the battle, you hope that some sniper comes along and gives you a 12 hour shield. You want to win the battle, make a war base, not a farming base.
7. they only take up 5 troop space - Wiz take up only 4, I'd take L6 Wiz over L5 Hogs.

FIXES-
1. nerf the hitpoints and dps of hogs - and turn them into Valks which no one uses?
2. make them cost more to upgrade, and to train - won't have any material impact, if they're still that OP, people will just wait longer
3. give th9 1 or 2 infernos to balance the game - why not a TH8 or 7 as well? and what'd be left for TH10s?
4. max wizard towers do 1.5-2 times the damage to hogs? Wizard Towers already do a number on hogs, that splash damage is killer
5. make them attack every building like pre-update - they'd be sitting ducks (or hogs) trying to take out some of the buildings
6. take them out of the game completely - sounds draconian

INFERNO TOWER PROBLEM-
inferno towers were balanced perfectly before the hog update. because of hogs, you made them the most irritating things. th8- and below have almost NO chance of defeating a th10 (and really, should they), and th9's have to use everything they have against a th10, being lucky to get even just a 2 star (again, should they? you're going up against a better base with lesser troops). why do you make it to where a th10 can hog a th9 with ease, but if that th9 wants revenge he wont succeed? (bc what would be the point of upgrading then, you level up, you get more kick@$$ stuff) the game was great before the hog and inferno updates (and the loot update -_- but dont get me started on that..) so i dont see why you had to make it worse. i dont even get why you wouldnt do something about this. there are MANY people that feel the same way (gotta learn how to control it and get to TH10. You want to get past hogs, have fun with gowiwi)

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Dude, you're my hero!

massed hogs are a extremely inefficient way to attack cept for revenge attacks and not very different from mass dragons or pekkas stuff like that, hogs arent even as good as these as a balanced and maxed out base can easily stop a hog attack with just a few tweaks.

A few revenge attacks that ♥♥♥♥ you off cause u usually otherwise dont get 3 starred is not a reason to nerf a perfectly fine troop.

you sound like a little who has a fit when he doesn't get what he wants,
hogs DONT need nerfed cuz: there are plenty of ways to defend against them, it just all depends on what you upgrade and how you organize your base...overall skill of the game. and if ppl want to spend hundreds and thousands of DE per raid they can do that.
infernos DONT need nerfed cuz: gowiwi/gowipe+freeze=domination, have you ever seen a high-level attack? it's pure LUCK to get 5 or more defenses won in the champ's league!

OVERALL A BAD IDEA

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i get hogged all the time while farming, so i have to make an anti hog base while farming. it honestly sounds like you are one of the many pathetic people who posses no skill whatsoever, and only use hogs. MANY people have the same problems as me because they are lower th's. hogs and infernos make the game no fun for lower people. put yourself in a th8's shoes for a moment and truly see how bad this is.

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I'm a TH8 and I have no problem fending off hog attacks. Why? The short answer is....I'm awesome. Quit whining, play better.