Hero additions and dynamic change.

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Originally Posted by iceageg

One problem that could arise from this format is people stacking their war bases with the best defensive hero(s) they have. I think the solution for this will be to make only the hero(s) they have active at the start of the war available to them for their attacks also. This would ensure the same dynamic exists for war time as with traditional game play.

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A little confused here, but correct me if I'm wrong. Because in wars heroes heal after every battle, dragon kings or pekka lords or whatever overpowered unit is invented would give the base an advantage over the attacking side because they couldn't attack with their dragon king or pekka lord or whatever twice?(because of the cool down?) sorry if that's confusing.

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Originally Posted by Sepp7

A little confused here, but correct me if I'm wrong. Because in wars heroes heal after every battle, dragon kings or pekka lords or whatever overpowered unit is invented would give the base an advantage over the attacking side because they couldn't attack with their dragon king or pekka lord or whatever twice?(because of the cool down?) sorry if that's confusing.

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Not sure I understand exactly what you mean but I will try to clarify anyway. My proposal does not change the way a hero works. If they are wounded, they must heal. You only get two of them at a time. You can have them sleep if you don't want them to defend. All that remains unchanged. The difference is you can change which hero your altar is housing (after upgrade) so instead of the barbarian king you have the pekka lord or whatever. Switching between them would also take time. If you send your Barbarian King away it would first need to be healed, and it would then take the pekka lord an hour to travel from pekkaville to your village. This is simply to ensure that planning is used to decide which hero you are using and prevent switching to the best defense instantly before you log off every time. This limitation would only work for traditional game play though . . .

With wars your base is locked in the layout that you were using when the war prep timer ends, and the war begins. This would allow people to always use the best defensive hero, and only have to wait an hour to get to use the best offensive hero for their attacks. For this reason the hero active when a war starts would need to be locked for both attacks and defense in order to make game play fair and give players some additional tactical considerations for war preparation.

Thanks, makes more sense now. personally i don't like the 1 hour switch time, but I see the reason for it. My suggestion is just have high cool downs for the more overpowered heroes. Just consider, what if I log on and forgot that I left my giant on defense. Now I can't use my barbarian king for another hour because he's off playing golf.(IDK) As a result the one hour switch has some down sides. However having individual cool downs means people can attack back to back with heroes which is also over powered. So maybe they could have one cool down on the altar? That way switching is easy, but once a hero dies he gone for the hour. However then there's the issue of the built in cool down on heroes. I honestly think the two hero limit is good, but how would supercell deal with the cool down issue? In my opinion the switch off with heroes is the easiest way, but it does have it's own issues. Anyways ever play clash of lords two? It has a hero only army system and they use the switch system. Sorry for the long rant, but I'm curious how this could be fixed.

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Originally Posted by Sepp7

Thanks, makes more sense now. personally i don't like the 1 hour switch time, but I see the reason for it. My suggestion is just have high cool downs for the more overpowered heroes. Just consider, what if I log on and forgot that I left my giant on defense. Now I can't use my barbarian king for another hour because he's off playing golf.(IDK) As a result the one hour switch has some down sides. However having individual cool downs means people can attack back to back with heroes which is also over powered. So maybe they could have one cool down on the altar? That way switching is easy, but once a hero dies he gone for the hour. However then there's the issue of the built in cool down on heroes. I honestly think the two hero limit is good, but how would supercell deal with the cool down issue? In my opinion the switch off with heroes is the easiest way, but it does have it's own issues. Anyways ever play clash of lords two? It has a hero only army system and they use the switch system. Sorry for the long rant, but I'm curious how this could be fixed.

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The idea of the switch timer is two fold. 1) To make sure people don't ALWAYS have the best defensive hero active as soon as they log off (would greatly reduce the number of available targets in crystal and above). 2) To promote forward consideration of tactics in the legacy game, not just during wars. I agree that I would find it frustrating to wait as well but I think for the overall health of the game it is probably a good idea. Heck, the fact that most players would complain about it because it makes them less powerful lends justification to the idea. Even without the switch timer (hero healing only) the idea still holds water.

Thanks for taking the time to put thought into it. Detailed posts are what this sub forum requires. If you read many of mine you know I won't mind you being long winded.

Cheers

I have been playing for a while but not active on this forum until recently. I was wondering, does anyone from SC ever respond to these threads? I know there are a boatload of duplicate requests that are not worth their time but how does anybody ever find out if a new idea is interesting to them? I know they rely on feedback from other players to get a feel for how an idea is received by players, but how do we know if a new idea is being considered or has been rejected? Do we just have to read the sticky every day just in case there was an update?