pointless to have a centralized CC if troops can still be lured out by a giant

have come across many th8 designs and they all have a centralized (if not semi) CC
the problem is, even if the CC is in the middle of the base, the range of it still reaches beyond the walls. which means the enemy can lure the troops out with one giant.
well, in that case, the centralized CC serve nothing more than a meat-shield in the middle of the base to slow the enemy down a little bit.

the fact is that at TH8 one doesnt have many choices. i have tried my best to design solid th8 bases that can also prevent troops from luring out(one works 360 degree, another about 270(which is unexpected))

they worked well against casual attackers who use only giants to lure(if they did lure), but if he is smart enough to use two wallbreakers or hogriders at the same time, the whole plan just break apart and CC troops will get out.

http://i.imgur.com/L6JXRpx.jpg
this is an example of my base
i gave it up cuz it cant really protect DE while i had 40k to protect...

Well then its pointless to have a centralized TH if it can be three starred.

And one giant is 5 spaces. That is 5 spaces going waste or more if your defences shooot it down quickly. Use a cc against hogs then you will agree

TH8 can be 3 stared in so many ways even without luring the CC out, it's just part of the game. At TH7 the CC can be lured out by a barb.

It's better to still have it centralized, because the raider has to use better troops to trigger the cc reducing his firepower, do you prefer seeing somebody wasting hogs to trigger the cc or using a single archer?

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Originally Posted by antonka

TH8 can be 3 stared in so many ways even without luring the CC out, it's just part of the game. At TH7 the CC can be lured out by a barb.

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you may need a giant or a couple of wallbreakers if it's designed to anti-luring. i am talking about my base when i was at th7, and the best thing about it was that in the direction 90% of the attackers went, even if the first cannon was under attack the troops just wont come out, which left the attacker the impression that there were no troops in CC and they could deploy all his giants at once.

Put your def in up outside or tesla outside but near your other active defense!

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Originally Posted by GoWiWi

Well then its pointless to have a centralized TH if it can be three starred.

And one giant is 5 spaces. That is 5 spaces going waste or more if your defences shooot it down quickly. Use a cc against hogs then you will agree

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http://i.imgur.com/gRa9Wzz.jpg
it's not about being 3 stared by higher lvl. or unusual troops like mass dragen.

we came across this base in CW and one of our guys' giants got shredded within seconds cuz he couldt lure the troops with a bar.

better lost one giant than 15, what do you think?

Are you telling people not to centralize their CC because it's pointless? If that's what you're saying, I hope everyone listens to you. It would make my life easier when I raid LOL

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Originally Posted by mmmk604

Are you telling people not to centralize their CC because it's pointless? If that's what you're saying, I hope everyone listens to you. It would make my life easier when I raid LOL

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the difference between a CC that is nowhere near the center and a centralized CC whose range reaches beyond the walls is trivial, you might want a centralized anti-air or mortar for better coverage of hot spots.

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Originally Posted by BarBarQueen

http://i.imgur.com/gRa9Wzz.jpg
it's not about being 3 stared by higher lvl. or unusual troops like mass dragen.

we came across this base in CW and one of our guys' giants got shredded within seconds cuz he couldt lure the troops with a bar.

better lost one giant than 15, what do you think?

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That picture is an ideal example of when to lure the CC with a giant instead of a barb. I don't see how your clan mate's giant would have gotten shredded so quickly by that base unless they had a lvl 3 or below giant.

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Originally Posted by BarBarQueen

the difference between a CC that is nowhere near the center and a centralized CC whose range reaches beyond the walls is trivial

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This is not always true. For a th7 or th8 in silver or gold league, I think the centralized CC that can still be lured is much better than a CC on the edge of a base.

However, if they are in high crystal or master's league, it's essentially the same. People raid smarter up there.