Why are there loot penalties?

Before i address this from my understanding loot penalties are penalties that affect how much resources you can steal or can be stolen from you. This makes it a lot harder to get resources with each progressive town hall level. obviously there is more to it than i understand but for basic purposes of having everyone on the same page that is my quick definition (you can expand on this later in a post if you feel so inclined:p)

So, to start off i'd like to say i have no real problem with some sort of loot penalties in fact i encourage a level of them, but what they are now is just ridiculous. Ya i know they have penalties to protect newer players and for various marketing purposes. Yet, it seems to me to make more sense to protect the mid to higher level players from such harsh penalties because they are most likely to spend more money on gems. granted i'm not a developer and have no idea what types of players actually buy gems. All i'm saying is i feel there can be a compromise between protecting the new players while providing a fun game for the older players who are now being screwed over.

to delve into this issue a little more i have to bring up the argument of whether the developers are being greedy or not. Honestly i'm of the persuasion that it is there game and they can create it how ever they want and everyone just has to deal with it (i'm mostly of this opinion because its the fact of the game and no amount of complaining is going to change it). so that is my opinion you can think what ever you want. I just ask that you guys try to keep the post professional below instead of turning it into an argument regarding this issue.

but what i will say is is this. I really do have a problem with the town hall being the basis for the loot penalties. Here is where i'm coming from. Since I've started looking at the forums a week ago i have run into countless stories where people have spent hundreds of dollars quickly leveling up their town hall. (they do this cause no where does it say anything about loot penalties that crush there hopes and dreams:() Now they literally have to quit playing (or only focus on their collectors) because they can't get enough resources to level up their troops to win fights. I will really quickly say this to me as a cry for change. I mean how hard would it to mention that loot penalties are present or just to base the loot penalties off actual level so that players who upgrade quick can still find fights among there own levels.

Every time i read these stories it makes me wonder if the developers even care or are just happy they got another paycheck. (yes i understand this is a business and they need to make money but if someone is willing to pay hundreds of dollars to get a quick level 9 town hall don't you think there probably going to buy more later on... i digress.) I also feel they just don't care because of how many stories like this I've read it seems to be an epidemic. I mean at the very least they could mention that there are penalties for leveling the town hall like i mentioned before.

So what is my purpose in posting this... well best case scenario a developer sees it and actually decides to do something about it. (i find this highly doubtful) But at any rate at least someone addressed it because i haven't seen to many posts about loot penalties and warnings. So i guess i'd just like to see the communities views on this. If anyone has any real ideas how to get the developers attention to address this i would be happy to hear them because personally these penalties have just become ridiculous and have just gotten worse with recent updates.

Well that is all i have i'm curious to hear what you guys think. As for those affected by this problem hang in there and hopefully some day the developers will address this. Peace out
~Sharktooth73

Lemme guess, you're a premature TH9 aren't you? :o

not really i can hold my own at level 9 i'm level 60ish (maybe 58) but have level 5 troops and dragons so i'm good i'm just posting this to see if we (the community) can get a change to occur and also i'm getting a little fed up with the penalties as apparent by my previous post.

I'm a TH8 with nearly all my defenses/troops upgraded. I am not moving to TH9 because of the loot penalties. I have difficulties at times finding resources and TH9 is going to be that much harder. I'll spend the next 2-3 months maxing out everything before upgraded.

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Originally Posted by sharktooth73

not really i can hold my own at level 9 i'm level 60ish (maybe 58) but have level 5 troops and dragons so i'm good i'm just posting this to see if we (the community) can get a change to occur and also i'm getting a little fed up with the penalties as apparent by my previous post.

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That is premature Th9 (You should be over 75 or so before you go TH9 assuming you upgraded everything and barely donated). I wish people would just admit it. Anyway, its really a user error for rushing into things knowing there's over a million threads about loot penalties already...

Sharktooth73: You suck, and your post is the evidence.

First of all...you wrote too much, not many people will read that whole thing.

Second, you definitely have a premature townhall 9 if your current level is only 59 or 60. I was townhall 7 maximizing my defense and walls at level 60. If you don't agree, please show us your base. But most of the whining from loot penalties and all that from townhall 9 comes from premature townhall 9ers. That's a fact.

The OP has a valid point. Im level 94 and have been playing since early september. My strategy when I started was to rush TH8 (there was no TH9) so I could make my own defensive choices and have all the toys to play with.

There were no loot penalties, these came in just after I started to get well on my way to maxing out TH8. Had they been there I would have been so annoyed. When they were introduced there was an absolute outcry and a big backlash from the community. I worked my way up from TH1 to TH8 and took the beating from well developed players and there bases. I accepted that I needed to dump my gold into my walls or get robbed. The game was not unplayable.

Subsequent to this backlash they were then reduced but never removed. Since then we have learnt to live with it.

Why is there no transparency for new players about the loot penalty If I were to start the game again I would (with no information about loot penalties) rush my TH again. However if there was transparency about the loot penalties then I definitely wouldn't rush my TH.

Loot penalties are an integral part of this game and an integral part to a players strategy.


Supercell you need to advertise and be a lot more transparent with your Loot penalties. I can live with them as they are at the moment, I will continue to play the game, but you really do need to fix your communication with new members that don't use forums as an instruction manual. People are spending real money on this game and you are morally doing the wrong thing by not communicating. You entice players to rush TH by locking the best buildings/troops to high TH but don't tell them about the downside to upgrading early.

Why can't you put a prompt in place when players click on their town hall to upgrade it??

WARNING!! UPGRADING YOUR TH WILL MEAN YOU CANT GET AS MUCH LOOT AS BEFORE AND THE UPGRADES COST EVEN MORE. ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO UPGRADE? IT WILL COST YOU £2000 TO MAX YOU BASE OR 18 MONTHS OF YOUR LIFE!!


Jokes aside Supercell there should be a warning in place explaining to players what happens to loot % when they upgrade their TH.

Rant over.

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Originally Posted by sharktooth73

Yet, it seems to me to make more sense to protect the mid to higher level players from such harsh penalties because they are most likely to spend more money on gems. granted i'm not a developer and have no idea what types of players actually buy gems.
~Sharktooth73

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um, i agree that people who rush to TH9 are more likely to buy gems. so why would supercell want to make it easier for such potential gemmers to get resources through stomping lower levels? doesn't it all make sense that supercell would want rushed TH9 people, who already bought gems to rush, to continue buying gems? loot penalties help ensure that.

by way of comparison, when i was level 58, i was still a few levels away from maxing TH7. at TH7, i could literally swim in resources and upgrading was really just waiting for builders to free up because raids were guaranteed gold/elixir.

Thanks for completely missing the point guys. Whether you like it or not these penalties affect every single person who plays and bashing my lack of knowledge in going to level 9 town hall isn't going to help anyone. Granted it might make you feel good and i know i can deal with a little criticism so bash away :p. I'm just saying this is an issue that needs more attention in the actual game so this stops happening to people (yes i'm included in this group of people) that doesn't make this point any less valid.

I agree with having loot penalties (edit: Given the current trophy system) and I agree with them being based off of TH level. The reason for the latter is that level is such a meaningless and easily manipulated statistic that it would present an equally inaccurate system. Also, level is heavily influenced by donations, so it would be a loot penalty against donaters (not exactly something people would like). To base it on something like that, they would need an entirely new statistic, or better yet a trophy system where people would want to attack other high level opponents. The latter is the far better alternative and they have said something is in the works on that. The loot penalties wouldn't necessarily need to exist at all, depending on what they could come up with.

I also agree that the poor communication of the penalties is terrible, because it tricks innocent players into ruining their games. I have stated repeatedly my desire for a loot penalty info screen to be displayed on either the Town Hall or the storages.

The only other problem I have with the current system is how harsh the penalty can be TH 9 players. The penalties don't hurt at all (in fact they help some players) until TH 7, but come into play bigtime after that. TH 8 is fine as long as you waited to upgrade, but Th 9 seems to be a real nightmare. Taking a penalty for attacking TH 8s just seems like a bit much. Their offense is superior, but not enough so that they need to take a profit hit, because Th 8s can defend themselves enough to require the use of decent sized armies. Also, the incredible amount of gold required to max a Th 9 far oustrips that of the others, They need the resources the most, yet they get the least. Not saying they shouldn't take some sort of hit, just that they need to balance the penalty with offense superior enough to expand their profit margins to more reasonable levels or they need to weaken the penalties. Thats my $.02.

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Originally Posted by Smirnoff

Subsequent to this backlash they were then reduced but never removed. Since then we have learnt to live with it.

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They were reduced. Then they were increased back to the original level. Now with this update they are actually worse than ever before.

The loot penalty sucks. It is a cop out because Supercell cannot get their act together and devise a system that makes collecting trophies valuable. It also adversely affects the people who have put the most time and effort into the game.

On the same topic they need to reduce the TH9 search cost. Why does it cost nearly twice as much as TH7 to do attack searches, when resource gathering tops out at TH7? If you're going to punish TH9 players with a loot penalty that gets them coming and going (because now all lower TH players get a bonus for attacking them, and they can't get a bonus for attacking anyone else) and provide no increases at all to resource generation via collectors; at least make it so that it doesn't cost a damn fortune to look for a base that is profitable to attack.

My only complaint is the search battle fee. I say they should make it lower as you go up in town hall, not increase it. TH9s have a harder time looking for opponents than a TH7 because obviously, there are more TH7s out there and they aren't affected by the penalty.....

Its quite logical. To reward low level TH's for attacking higher level TH's and to punish very powerful high level TH's for attacking low level TH's.

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Originally Posted by Ahland3r

Its quite logical. To reward low level TH's for attacking higher level TH's and to punish very powerful high level TH's for attacking low level TH's.

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Why do low level THs need a reward for attacking high level THs? You do realize that this arrangement typically consists of the lower ths dropping lightning spells on the higher ones right? Furthermore the higher TH level person can't even revenge to get it back.

It isn't logical at all. The point of the penalty is to keep high th people from preying on low th ones. How does this bonus further that goal?

What is logical about giving further bonuses to lower TH people when the higher ups already have a penalty? Why do they need more advantage when it is far easier for them to collect resources and they need far fewer?

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Originally Posted by Ahland3r

Its quite logical. To reward low level TH's for attacking higher level TH's and to punish very powerful high level TH's for attacking low level TH's.

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It is far from logical that the players that need the most resource (TH9) are the ones that can collect the least.

How on earth is it logical that TH9's are jealous of TH7's for their ability to collect resource?

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Originally Posted by Growler

It is far from logical that the players that need the most resource (TH9) are the ones that can collect the least.

How on earth is it logical that TH9's are jealous of TH7's for their ability to collect resource?

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people with the most time invested (i.e., TH9s) are more likely to gem or persevere than quit.

so in that sense, it's very logical.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

Why do low level THs need a reward for attacking high level THs? You do realize that this arrangement typically consists of the lower ths dropping lightning spells on the higher ones right? Furthermore the higher TH level person can't even revenge to get it back.

It isn't logical at all. The point of the penalty is to keep high th people from preying on low th ones. How does this bonus further that goal?

What is logical about giving further bonuses to lower TH people when the higher ups already have a penalty? Why do they need more advantage when it is far easier for them to collect resources and they need far fewer?

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Logically, TH9 bases should be a lot harder to beat hence the bonuses. Either way you look at it, they force you to buy gems or you are forced to farm a really really long time.

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

Th 9 seems to be a real nightmare. Taking a penalty for attacking TH 8s just seems like a bit much.

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TH 9s don't have a penalty against TH 8, it's only more than one TH below that the penalty takes effect.

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Originally Posted by IRoss

TH 9s don't have a penalty against TH 8, it's only more than one TH below that the penalty takes effect.

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It's 10% reduction now.

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Originally Posted by IRoss

TH 9s don't have a penalty against TH 8, it's only more than one TH below that the penalty takes effect.

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twas the case before the update, but no more! Dahimi exposed the changes: th8 now gets a 10% bonus against TH 9 and TH 9 gets a 10% penalty against TH 8.

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Originally Posted by blurx

Logically, TH9 bases should be a lot harder to beat hence the bonuses. Either way you look at it, they force you to buy gems or you are forced to farm a really really long time.

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It's no more difficult to lightning a TH9 base than any other. That's about the only use case.

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Originally Posted by IRoss

TH 9s don't have a penalty against TH 8, it's only more than one TH below that the penalty takes effect.

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bzzt...wrong.

This was one of the unannounced changes of the new update.

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Originally Posted by blurx

It's 10% reduction now.

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Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter

twas the case before the update, but no more! Dahimi exposed the changes: th8 now gets a 10% bonus against TH 9 and TH 9 gets a 10% penalty against TH 8.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

bzzt...wrong.

This was one of the unannounced changes of the new update.

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Oh wow...well that just sucks, makes me want to put off upgrading TH for longer...

I don't get why they would add a TH 9 -> TH 8 penalty, it doesn't make any sense? :confused:

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Originally Posted by IRoss

Oh wow...well that just sucks, makes me want to put off upgrading TH for longer...

I don't get why they would add a TH 9 -> TH 8 penalty, it doesn't make any sense? :confused:

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It's not just a TH9->TH8 penalty. It's a 10% penalty for attacking 1 TH lower across the board and a corresponding 10% bonus for attacking 1 higher.

It sucks.

Is this considered premature?
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...B757314BFF.jpg

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Originally Posted by Slap

Is this considered premature?

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Yes, he clearly does not know how to build a base and like some defenses are maxed, but some aren't. That guy must have gemmed a good amount of money for those level 10 walls. If he had more gold, attacking from the south side would be free gold.

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Originally Posted by Slap

Is this considered premature?
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...B757314BFF.jpg

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Yes. The vast majority of those walls are way under leveled. In addition there are a lot of low level or missing (or at least not visible) defenses.

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Originally Posted by resnullius

people with the most time invested (i.e., TH9s) are more likely to gem or persevere than quit.

so in that sense, it's very logical.

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Ahh the good old straw man arguement.

Even so, I see very little scope for pushing those that didn't gem resource before suddenly deciding to at th9 with resource so overpriced in gem terms.

Loot penalty is simply to be fair with other players.

higher TH means more defense, stronger troops.
use them to your advantage. If you can't, then you need to improve yourself more, don't ask to improve the game for you. ;)

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Originally Posted by Rakcs

Loot penalty is simply to be fair with other players.

higher TH means more defense, stronger troops.
use them to your advantage. If you can't, then you need to improve yourself more, don't ask to improve the game for you. ;)

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More defense and stronger troops = much higher costs. You can't use them to your advantage because the loot penalty removes that advantage.

Your comment indicates that you have no idea what you're talking about.

As Growler said, how does it make sense that people with TH9 should envy TH7 for its ability to accumulate loot?

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Originally Posted by Rakcs

Loot penalty is simply to be fair with other players.

higher TH means more defense, stronger troops.
use them to your advantage. If you can't, then you need to improve yourself more, don't ask to improve the game for you. ;)

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first off if you making this statement i'm assuming that you have a low town hall and are not being affected by the penalties and if you are its in a positive was because now the lower levels can farm the heck out of the higher levels assuming they can win anything (but that is a completely different issue all together). but back to you Rakcs I give you props for staying out of the madness that is wrapped up in getting a high level town hall and like may others have said i advise you stay away from the higher level town halls till you 100% ready to make the plunge cause there is no going back once you do... mad props to you sir :).

To address your next point about improving yourself not going to delve into this to deeply but doesn't it make sense that if you can't get resources you probably can't improve high level stuff (such as 3mil elixir for level 7 lab and 3.2mil gold for level 7 mortars there are many other examples those are just the two that come to mind first). yes i know we shouldn't have leveled up if we were not ready but the core of this problem is that we didn't know we would be penalized so harshly or at all for that matter and all i'm asking is for a notice to help other players not run into this issue. Personally i don't think its fair to have such harsh penalties but that is my opinion if the developers feel they should stay so be it just please give us (the players) a warning.

Having said that i pose a simple question to you. Would you like to be penalized for trying to increase your town hall? I'm going to assume you don't and quite honestly that is whats happening to some players, my self included. Don't get me wrong i agree with you loot penalties are fair to a degree but what they are now is a bit over the edge. There are plenty of possible ways to fix what i see as a problem some of which are already discussed but for time sake i'll save that for another post.

Thanks for posting Rakcs and everyone else :) keep it real and feel free to continue adding you opinions on this section.
~Sharktooth73

Without TH penalties you would be looted by people 5 TH levels above you

I do get the point of the O.P.

I posted a thread, a few weeks back, regarding the exact same thing.

A warning should pop up when you're about to upgrade your TH. 'Your TH is not maxed. Upgrading your TH will mean you will get less loot from THs lower than you. Do you want to proceed?'.

And with that you have two options. 'Yes, i'll accept the consequences', and the other. 'Really?, ok I'll max my TH first'

I feel the pain of the others who were not so lucky.

I think the loot system is fine.

This is coming from a level 100 TH9 with 154/250 lvl 9 walls.

No problems here.

Hey I'm maxed th8 (115/225skulls only though) and I'm upgrading to th9 without fear because,in my defence list while I have full storages and empty collectors I have seen all th9 steal 300k gold from me and when I revenge them at full storages there is 350k in there so no big deal I see because th9 don't need much to prevent th8 from 100% them if I don't use hogs which is rare! Also most th9s with full storages are farmers who I only find in my defence list with th outside and hardcore online time so I never get to revenge them anyway!

Anyway im tired of the crying about loot penalties meaning a difference of 50k loot possible between th8-9 comparing th8 attacking/defending against th9 so I can't actually see the unfair part as th9 has one more storage and better army/defence so they should honestly have 25% more available loot butbut instead they are harder to raid and harder to get all loot and th8 get less loot from 3 th9 storages then th9 gets from th8 (counting at max loot available)!

So now to make you guys happy I have a good way to stop all the weird complaining and balance out two parts of complaining people! Make the loot penalty change by th and trophy range as a combination, meaning forexample:
Th10: 0% at champion and 5%*difference in level of th more penalty per league area that they step down (ex:crystal 1-3 masters-3)
Th9: 0% at master and 5%*diff th more penalty per league area
Th8: 0% penalty at crystal and same counting!

Now this is just example numbers but in fact I think it's the only way to make people want to farm at "their highest possible farm league" and make people happy about the loot and maybe preemies can farm with a small penalty but avoid the hard core farmers with max troops! Meaning farming will become more then just low leagues noob farm with th outside but instead even more strategy and with additional options!

See the awesome point of this? :)
HamsterGubben

Ps:writing from phone so editing here and there in the post

When the loot system changed loot increase was removed. You do not get more loot when attacking higher level town halls any more. Supercell justified this by zapping.

Nvm, old topic.
Why the hell did they dig up this topic.

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Originally Posted by HamsterGubben

So now to make you guys happy I have a good way to stop all the weird complaining and balance out two parts of complaining people! Make the loot penalty change by th and trophy range as a combination, meaning forexample:
Th10: 0% at champion and 5%*difference in level of th more penalty per league area that they step down (ex:crystal 1-3 masters-3)
Th9: 0% at master and 5%*diff th more penalty per league area
Th8: 0% penalty at crystal and same counting!

Now this is just example numbers but in fact I think it's the only way to make people want to farm at "their highest possible farm league" and make people happy about the loot and maybe preemies can farm with a small penalty but avoid the hard core farmers with max troops! Meaning farming will become more then just low leagues noob farm with th outside but instead even more strategy and with additional options!

See the awesome point of this? :)
HamsterGubben

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So let me get this right. You are suggesting a TH10 that is in Crystal 3 get a 30% penalty (6 * 5%). How is that going to help a premmie TH10?

No I dont see the awesome point to this.

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Originally Posted by sharktooth73

Before i address this from my understanding loot penalties are penalties that affect how much resources you can steal or can be stolen from you. This makes it a lot harder to get resources with each progressive town hall level. obviously there is more to it than i understand but for basic purposes of having everyone on the same page that is my quick definition (you can expand on this later in a post if you feel so inclined:p)

So, to start off i'd like to say i have no real problem with some sort of loot penalties in fact i encourage a level of them, but what they are now is just ridiculous. Ya i know they have penalties to protect newer players and for various marketing purposes. Yet, it seems to me to make more sense to protect the mid to higher level players from such harsh penalties because they are most likely to spend more money on gems. granted i'm not a developer and have no idea what types of players actually buy gems. All i'm saying is i feel there can be a compromise between protecting the new players while providing a fun game for the older players who are now being screwed over.

to delve into this issue a little more i have to bring up the argument of whether the developers are being greedy or not. Honestly i'm of the persuasion that it is there game and they can create it how ever they want and everyone just has to deal with it (i'm mostly of this opinion because its the fact of the game and no amount of complaining is going to change it). so that is my opinion you can think what ever you want. I just ask that you guys try to keep the post professional below instead of turning it into an argument regarding this issue.

but what i will say is is this. I really do have a problem with the town hall being the basis for the loot penalties. Here is where i'm coming from. Since I've started looking at the forums a week ago i have run into countless stories where people have spent hundreds of dollars quickly leveling up their town hall. (they do this cause no where does it say anything about loot penalties that crush there hopes and dreams:() Now they literally have to quit playing (or only focus on their collectors) because they can't get enough resources to level up their troops to win fights. I will really quickly say this to me as a cry for change. I mean how hard would it to mention that loot penalties are present or just to base the loot penalties off actual level so that players who upgrade quick can still find fights among there own levels.

Every time i read these stories it makes me wonder if the developers even care or are just happy they got another paycheck. (yes i understand this is a business and they need to make money but if someone is willing to pay hundreds of dollars to get a quick level 9 town hall don't you think there probably going to buy more later on... i digress.) I also feel they just don't care because of how many stories like this I've read it seems to be an epidemic. I mean at the very least they could mention that there are penalties for leveling the town hall like i mentioned before.

So what is my purpose in posting this... well best case scenario a developer sees it and actually decides to do something about it. (i find this highly doubtful) But at any rate at least someone addressed it because i haven't seen to many posts about loot penalties and warnings. So i guess i'd just like to see the communities views on this. If anyone has any real ideas how to get the developers attention to address this i would be happy to hear them because personally these penalties have just become ridiculous and have just gotten worse with recent updates.

Well that is all i have i'm curious to hear what you guys think. As for those affected by this problem hang in there and hopefully some day the developers will address this. Peace out
~Sharktooth73

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There are two seperate issues here.

1. No warning when upgrading Townhall. - This I agree with you. There should be a warning message so people don't go up prematurely.
2. Loot penalties - This I disagree with you completely. I think the loot penalty is good as it is. Only 10% loot penalty for attacking a TH one level lower is nothing really. If you've been in a certain level of TH for a while and still can't get decent loot from people one TH below, then it means you don't play your game right. And of course you get 50% penalty for attacking two TH level below. Otherwise, how can a low level players grow getting bully from bigger guys all the time. It's unfortunately you have premature TH but people have work through that and so can you. So, instead of complaining, you should focus on building up stronger troops, so you can get more resources and, in turn, catch up with proper base defense.

And before you start guessing that I must be a low TH to say this. I am a TH10 with almost maxed defense. Most of my walls are LV9 and few of them are LV10. So, yeah, I say this because I know it's not a problem wit the game, but rather how you play it.

This is all a bit lost on me I have to admit. .

so the complaint is that you lose 10%. . so where my th8 sees 300k - you'd get 270. . and this is the end of the world?

there was one post complaining about how they couldnt use their higher level troops to pick on smaller th's because it wasnt worth their while, is this not the point?

There seem to be a couple of common themes in these whining threads - firstly its people who havent 'served their time' and have rushed their th (a bit like building a house roof first. . cant imagine why that didnt work out!) so are struggling/being hammered by lower th players with better kit or there's those languishing in far too low of a league and wondering why there's nothing worth looting!

I appreciate that everything is expensive at TH9 - but you're almost at the top of the tree. . . so should it not be?

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So let me get this right. You are suggesting a TH10 that is in Crystal 3 get a 30% penalty (6 * 5%). How is that going to help a premmie TH10?

No I dont see the awesome point to this.

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No I suggest a th10 in Crystal 3-1 has 10% penalty to th9 and 20% to th8 but I said it's examples so would be lowered by half idc but at least it's a better way to make penalty change then others told because it will make high level farmers go up in range for higher loots instead of farming preemies and opposite as it should be!!! But I'm not the one complaining at either way so I don't really care just trying to help those who are actually complaining.

Btw anyone who are gonna quote me like this quote above should read my whole post and make some own example/improve my post if they think I'm so wrong!

there is nothing wrong with the loot penalty. if you are a level 60 th9, you need to try boom beach. that game is all about rushing your headquarters and there is no loot penalty.

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Originally Posted by goodburner

there is nothing wrong with the loot penalty. if you are a level 60 th9, you need to try boom beach. that game is all about rushing your headquarters and there is no loot penalty.

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Again, this is an old topic dating back over a year...

Actually there is warning message now about loot penalty, when you tap th upgrade...

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Originally Posted by smoggybowman

This is all a bit lost on me I have to admit. .

so the complaint is that you lose 10%. . so where my th8 sees 300k - you'd get 270. . and this is the end of the world?

there was one post complaining about how they couldnt use their higher level troops to pick on smaller th's because it wasnt worth their while, is this not the point?

There seem to be a couple of common themes in these whining threads - firstly its people who havent 'served their time' and have rushed their th (a bit like building a house roof first. . cant imagine why that didnt work out!) so are struggling/being hammered by lower th players with better kit or there's those languishing in far too low of a league and wondering why there's nothing worth looting!

I appreciate that everything is expensive at TH9 - but you're almost at the top of the tree. . . so should it not be?

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Wow u said what I tried for some time ago at a similar thread but with such a perfection gj mate :)

Oh realized someone had gone necromancer way, sorry that I did put in some long stuff nevermore about it we have to let this die again... Thanks to godzilla for releasing me from the pain of writing in old bad thread, cya in other threads everybody!

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Originally Posted by HamsterGubben

No I suggest a th10 in Crystal 3-1 has 10% penalty to th9 and 20% to th8 but I said it's examples so would be lowered by half idc but at least it's a better way to make penalty change then others told because it will make high level farmers go up in range for higher loots instead of farming preemies and opposite as it should be!!! But I'm not the one complaining at either way so I don't really care just trying to help those who are actually complaining.

Btw anyone who are gonna quote me like this quote above should read my whole post and make some own example/improve my post if they think I'm so wrong!

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I dont see why I need to make any suggestions or improvements, Im happy with the way things are.

I sub quoted because the rest was just waffle.

At the moment I have a 50% penalty when raiding a TH8 regardless of league. Whilst Ill happily take 80% rather than 50% Im not sure the TH8s will be quite so happy.

I started playing this game about a year ago, and never once did I not know about the penalties associated with upgrading too quickly. Granted, I was in a helpful clan from early on, but even if I wasn't, there are many sources in game and on the internet that recommend not rushing your TH. Spending hundreds without even doing a bit of research is downright stupid. If you enjoy the game enough to spend that kind of money, you probably also read a wiki or checked the forums too, both of which say don't upgrade too quickly. People who complain about this either shouldn't be spending that kind of money to begin with (because they are clearly not responsible with $$), or they have enough to gem their offense so the penalty isn't so bad. Just my two cents :)