Why are there loot penalties?

Before i address this from my understanding loot penalties are penalties that affect how much resources you can steal or can be stolen from you. This makes it a lot harder to get resources with each progressive town hall level. obviously there is more to it than i understand but for basic purposes of having everyone on the same page that is my quick definition (you can expand on this later in a post if you feel so inclined:p)

So, to start off i'd like to say i have no real problem with some sort of loot penalties in fact i encourage a level of them, but what they are now is just ridiculous. Ya i know they have penalties to protect newer players and for various marketing purposes. Yet, it seems to me to make more sense to protect the mid to higher level players from such harsh penalties because they are most likely to spend more money on gems. granted i'm not a developer and have no idea what types of players actually buy gems. All i'm saying is i feel there can be a compromise between protecting the new players while providing a fun game for the older players who are now being screwed over.

to delve into this issue a little more i have to bring up the argument of whether the developers are being greedy or not. Honestly i'm of the persuasion that it is there game and they can create it how ever they want and everyone just has to deal with it (i'm mostly of this opinion because its the fact of the game and no amount of complaining is going to change it). so that is my opinion you can think what ever you want. I just ask that you guys try to keep the post professional below instead of turning it into an argument regarding this issue.

but what i will say is is this. I really do have a problem with the town hall being the basis for the loot penalties. Here is where i'm coming from. Since I've started looking at the forums a week ago i have run into countless stories where people have spent hundreds of dollars quickly leveling up their town hall. (they do this cause no where does it say anything about loot penalties that crush there hopes and dreams:() Now they literally have to quit playing (or only focus on their collectors) because they can't get enough resources to level up their troops to win fights. I will really quickly say this to me as a cry for change. I mean how hard would it to mention that loot penalties are present or just to base the loot penalties off actual level so that players who upgrade quick can still find fights among there own levels.

Every time i read these stories it makes me wonder if the developers even care or are just happy they got another paycheck. (yes i understand this is a business and they need to make money but if someone is willing to pay hundreds of dollars to get a quick level 9 town hall don't you think there probably going to buy more later on... i digress.) I also feel they just don't care because of how many stories like this I've read it seems to be an epidemic. I mean at the very least they could mention that there are penalties for leveling the town hall like i mentioned before.

So what is my purpose in posting this... well best case scenario a developer sees it and actually decides to do something about it. (i find this highly doubtful) But at any rate at least someone addressed it because i haven't seen to many posts about loot penalties and warnings. So i guess i'd just like to see the communities views on this. If anyone has any real ideas how to get the developers attention to address this i would be happy to hear them because personally these penalties have just become ridiculous and have just gotten worse with recent updates.

Well that is all i have i'm curious to hear what you guys think. As for those affected by this problem hang in there and hopefully some day the developers will address this. Peace out
~Sharktooth73

Lemme guess, you're a premature TH9 aren't you? :o

not really i can hold my own at level 9 i'm level 60ish (maybe 58) but have level 5 troops and dragons so i'm good i'm just posting this to see if we (the community) can get a change to occur and also i'm getting a little fed up with the penalties as apparent by my previous post.

I'm a TH8 with nearly all my defenses/troops upgraded. I am not moving to TH9 because of the loot penalties. I have difficulties at times finding resources and TH9 is going to be that much harder. I'll spend the next 2-3 months maxing out everything before upgraded.

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Originally Posted by sharktooth73

not really i can hold my own at level 9 i'm level 60ish (maybe 58) but have level 5 troops and dragons so i'm good i'm just posting this to see if we (the community) can get a change to occur and also i'm getting a little fed up with the penalties as apparent by my previous post.

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That is premature Th9 (You should be over 75 or so before you go TH9 assuming you upgraded everything and barely donated). I wish people would just admit it. Anyway, its really a user error for rushing into things knowing there's over a million threads about loot penalties already...

Sharktooth73: You suck, and your post is the evidence.

First of all...you wrote too much, not many people will read that whole thing.

Second, you definitely have a premature townhall 9 if your current level is only 59 or 60. I was townhall 7 maximizing my defense and walls at level 60. If you don't agree, please show us your base. But most of the whining from loot penalties and all that from townhall 9 comes from premature townhall 9ers. That's a fact.

The OP has a valid point. Im level 94 and have been playing since early september. My strategy when I started was to rush TH8 (there was no TH9) so I could make my own defensive choices and have all the toys to play with.

There were no loot penalties, these came in just after I started to get well on my way to maxing out TH8. Had they been there I would have been so annoyed. When they were introduced there was an absolute outcry and a big backlash from the community. I worked my way up from TH1 to TH8 and took the beating from well developed players and there bases. I accepted that I needed to dump my gold into my walls or get robbed. The game was not unplayable.

Subsequent to this backlash they were then reduced but never removed. Since then we have learnt to live with it.

Why is there no transparency for new players about the loot penalty If I were to start the game again I would (with no information about loot penalties) rush my TH again. However if there was transparency about the loot penalties then I definitely wouldn't rush my TH.

Loot penalties are an integral part of this game and an integral part to a players strategy.


Supercell you need to advertise and be a lot more transparent with your Loot penalties. I can live with them as they are at the moment, I will continue to play the game, but you really do need to fix your communication with new members that don't use forums as an instruction manual. People are spending real money on this game and you are morally doing the wrong thing by not communicating. You entice players to rush TH by locking the best buildings/troops to high TH but don't tell them about the downside to upgrading early.

Why can't you put a prompt in place when players click on their town hall to upgrade it??

WARNING!! UPGRADING YOUR TH WILL MEAN YOU CANT GET AS MUCH LOOT AS BEFORE AND THE UPGRADES COST EVEN MORE. ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO UPGRADE? IT WILL COST YOU £2000 TO MAX YOU BASE OR 18 MONTHS OF YOUR LIFE!!


Jokes aside Supercell there should be a warning in place explaining to players what happens to loot % when they upgrade their TH.

Rant over.

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Originally Posted by sharktooth73

Yet, it seems to me to make more sense to protect the mid to higher level players from such harsh penalties because they are most likely to spend more money on gems. granted i'm not a developer and have no idea what types of players actually buy gems.
~Sharktooth73

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um, i agree that people who rush to TH9 are more likely to buy gems. so why would supercell want to make it easier for such potential gemmers to get resources through stomping lower levels? doesn't it all make sense that supercell would want rushed TH9 people, who already bought gems to rush, to continue buying gems? loot penalties help ensure that.

by way of comparison, when i was level 58, i was still a few levels away from maxing TH7. at TH7, i could literally swim in resources and upgrading was really just waiting for builders to free up because raids were guaranteed gold/elixir.

Thanks for completely missing the point guys. Whether you like it or not these penalties affect every single person who plays and bashing my lack of knowledge in going to level 9 town hall isn't going to help anyone. Granted it might make you feel good and i know i can deal with a little criticism so bash away :p. I'm just saying this is an issue that needs more attention in the actual game so this stops happening to people (yes i'm included in this group of people) that doesn't make this point any less valid.