Anyone else have this gripe about resources?!

I keep getting short on elixir. Right now the only repeat gold expense is skipping bases in matchmaking. Every other gold expense we pay we get something that is permanent like a wall, defensive structure, or building upgrade. But some things that are elixir expenses aren't permanent like spells & troops that are gone after every battle. I keep running low on elixir cause of battles!

They should change the price of spells back to gold or decrease a troop's cost from pure elixir to a mixture of both gold & elixir or maybe all three with some DE even. I.e. If an archer cost 200 elixir change it to 100 gold & 100 elixir or 50 gold & 150 elixir, etc.

quite the opposite for me... running out of gold but overflowing with elix :)

I also have excess elixir, but that may be because I am 95% maxed TH9 and my only updates left require DE, or gold for walls.

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Originally Posted by silkenhut

quite the opposite for me... running out of gold but overflowing with elix :)

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I just don't get it.... Because only at TH8 is there a pretty big need/use for gold with lvl 8 walls costing 500K apiece. But after all the walls are upgraded and the all other buildings are upgraded gold just isn't needed. Just the nominal fee of pressing "next" for matchmaking.

If you have such an overflow of gold, why not press Next hundreds of times until you find an easy base with full elixir collectors, if you're low on it? When there's nothing to spend the gold on, use it on searching easy battles...

I am frustrated by trying to save elixer too. Troops, and spells cost elixer. So farming for elixer means you either have to use all DE troops, or make sure the elixer you spend results in at least that much elixer earned. DE isn't exactly easy to come by, and 2 dark barracks means a long wait for your army.

There are many ways to deal with this issue:

-give us the option to spend elixer OR gold on troops
-give us the option to spend elixer OR gold on spells
-give us more dark barracks
-give us a new building "market" that exchanges gold for elixer

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Originally Posted by Janniboy0312

If you have such an overflow of gold, why not press Next hundreds of times until you find an easy base with full elixir collectors, if you're low on it? When there's nothing to spend the gold on, use it on searching easy battles...

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I'm already searching until I find the weakest bases... Let's be real now what is 580 gold (the TH8 "next" fee)? Relative to the price of a single archer!? Only 200 elixir for a level five archer.

Have you tried changing your army composition to use less elixir? If used effectively, Barch (barbarians and archers) or BAM (barbs, archers, minions) can yield high resource raids while using less elixir than other army compositions.

One thing I do if I'm concerned about maintaining elixir levels is I add up the total elixir cost of my raiding army and compare it to how much elixir I think I'll get from a raid. If I don't think I'll get more than I spend, then I won't raid.

Another idea may be to strategically target elixir pumps and storages using as few troops as possible and then ending the battle, even if this means you may lose trophies. You can always get them back using 1 star raids, TH sniping, or using stronger troops when you are no longer as dependent on elixir.

I hope this helps.

Quite strange..
normally, after you have upgraded your extractors and troops in the lab, you end up in an excess of elixir compared to gold...
What I normally do in farming is attacking with barchs (so an attack will cost 10-20K elisir max) and target easier bases which can give me 200K combined (gold + eli) , no matter if I loose cups.

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Originally Posted by TheOrkinMan

I keep getting short on elixir. Right now the only repeat gold expense is skipping bases in matchmaking. Every other gold expense we pay we get something that is permanent like a wall, defensive structure, or building upgrade. But some things that are elixir expenses aren't permanent like spells & troops that are gone after every battle. I keep running low on elixir cause of battles!
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I mainly uses an army of archers, barbarians, giants and wallbreaker which cost me about 70-80k elixir per attack (add in 3 spells and it's still 150k only).

I'm at the end phase of TH8 now and I have never had any shortage of elixir through out the whole TH8 experience. Sometimes I even build full dragons army just to use my excess elixir

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Originally Posted by Simaril

I am frustrated by trying to save elixer too. Troops, and spells cost elixer. So farming for elixer means you either have to use all DE troops, or make sure the elixer you spend results in at least that much elixer earned. DE isn't exactly easy to come by, and 2 dark barracks means a long wait for your army.

There are many ways to deal with this issue:

-give us the option to spend elixer OR gold on troops
-give us the option to spend elixer OR gold on spells
-give us more dark barracks
-give us a new building "market" that exchanges gold for elixer

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totally agree, since elixir fuels the army I try not to attack bases that won't net me positive on elixir unless there's a ton of gold. But I disagree with you on making the resources interchangeable. Otherwise what's the point if having two types? I just think one of them, gold, should pay for some of the cost of a battle.

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Originally Posted by Hav0k

Have you tried changing your army composition to use less elixir? If used effectively, Barch (barbarians and archers) or BAM (barbs, archers, minions) can yield high resource raids while using less elixir than other army compositions.

One thing I do if I'm concerned about maintaining elixir levels is I add up the total elixir cost of my raiding army and compare it to how much elixir I think I'll get from a raid. If I don't think I'll get more than I spend, then I won't raid.

Another idea may be to strategically target elixir pumps and storages using as few troops as possible and then ending the battle, even if this means you may lose trophies. You can always get them back using 1 star raids, TH sniping, or using stronger troops when you are no longer as dependent on elixir.

I hope this helps.

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yeah I already barch and bam to lessen the elixir expense. But at each town hall level once I max all the buildings I only really have DE and elixir expenses, troops and spells. Looking ahead if I were a maxed TH10 I would only need to replenish DE and elixir. There's nothing else to spend gold on.

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Originally Posted by dinooli

Quite strange..
normally, after you have upgraded your extractors and troops in the lab, you end up in an excess of elixir compared to gold...
What I normally do in farming is attacking with barchs (so an attack will cost 10-20K elisir max) and target easier bases which can give me 200K combined (gold + eli) , no matter if I loose cups.

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I already use barch. I can't believe you have an excess of elixir. My point is Gold isn't something making the army that is used to get gold. Gold can't lead you to more gold. But Elixir is needed to get more elixir.

Sounds like your problem is choosing the right opponents, or using expensive troops/spells too often.

Resources need to be managed and spent wisely. If you're unable to do this it's your issue, not the games.

I think if you are already using cost-effective troops to raid, and you are not using more than 1 spell per battle, then all that is left is to choose the right bases and try to aim for bases that have 200k+ elixir to be stolen.

When you get to TH9, lvl9 walls cost a mil each, and lvl 10 walls cost 3 mil each. At th10, lvl 11 walls cost 4 mil each. I don't think you will have that excess gold issue anymore :D

I honestly thought this was a troll thread. Most people I know have the problem of overflowing elixir constantly. Especially at lower TH levels. I can't understand a TH8 needing more elixir.....

And nothing to spend gold on? Are your walls maxed? I just don't get it.

I never have enough gold, always have over 2 mil elixir

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Originally Posted by Hav0k

Have you tried changing your army composition to use less elixir? If used effectively, Barch (barbarians and archers) or BAM (barbs, archers, minions) can yield high resource raids while using less elixir than other army compositions.

One thing I do if I'm concerned about maintaining elixir levels is I add up the total elixir cost of my raiding army and compare it to how much elixir I think I'll get from a raid. If I don't think I'll get more than I spend, then I won't raid.

Another idea may be to strategically target elixir pumps and storages using as few troops as possible and then ending the battle, even if this means you may lose trophies. You can always get them back using 1 star raids, TH sniping, or using stronger troops when you are no longer as dependent on elixir.

I hope this helps.

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yea I already barch and if the base is poorly set up with all resources of one type grouped together I begin my attack there.

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Originally Posted by WeixuanNg

I mainly uses an army of archers, barbarians, giants and wallbreaker which cost me about 70-80k elixir per attack (add in 3 spells and it's still 150k only).

I'm at the end phase of TH8 now and I have never had any shortage of elixir through out the whole TH8 experience. Sometimes I even build full dragons army just to use my excess elixir

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this is your first post Weixuan? Well I'm honored haha. Ok put it this way if you wanted to stay at and enjoy being TH8 (say you quit cause you're tired of CoC and TH9 will be too much work) after you max everything at TH8 what do you need gold for? You only need elixir and DE cause that will replenish your army, not gold.

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Originally Posted by junyab

Sounds like your problem is choosing the right opponents, or using expensive troops/spells too often.

Resources need to be managed and spent wisely. If you're unable to do this it's your issue, not the games.

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heh I'm choosing the right opponents, and spend wisely when i farm. but what's the fun in using barch all the time? It's boring. I like to try fun albeit pricey armies. Like the "fat army" I.e. All giants, Pekkas, and Golems.

My point is you need elixir to get everything. An army can't be built with gold. So why can't one of the elements to a battle, e.g. Spells, cost gold instead? A player doesn't REALLY need spells to go into battle.

I have plenty of both (and a lot of de)! I am farming in gold 3 with goblins, barbs, and archers

Not to TH8 yet but I never seem to have enough of either. Even with farming it seems to take forever to get enough to update anything.

@The orkin man check your sig, your lowest trophies was 0 thats where you start. You didnt start at 192

It very well may be a troll thread. The OP is not showing us their base, so we can't see whether his/her walls are maxed (I highly doubt they are). And like you said, everyone I know has the opposite problem at late TH levels.......... too much elixir, not too much gold.

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Originally Posted by hawdog

I think if you are already using cost-effective troops to raid, and you are not using more than 1 spell per battle, then all that is left is to choose the right bases and try to aim for bases that have 200k+ elixir to be stolen.

When you get to TH9, lvl9 walls cost a mil each, and lvl 10 walls cost 3 mil each. At th10, lvl 11 walls cost 4 mil each. I don't think you will have that excess gold issue anymore :D

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Heh yeah I'm not a TH9 yet. So I guess walls are a huge gold drain and the reason why ppl even put the progress of their walls in their sig, I.e. 100 skulls / 150 Legos, etc.

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Originally Posted by Pete82

I honestly thought this was a troll thread. Most people I know have the problem of overflowing elixir constantly. Especially at lower TH levels. I can't understand a TH8 needing more elixir.....

And nothing to spend gold on? Are your walls maxed? I just don't get it.

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To put this another way if you were a maxed TH10 who already achieved "Gold Grab" and only played clan wars you would have no use for gold right? Yet to get more elixir which you do need more of you gotta use elixir! All your gold would just be sitting there and raiding wouldn't be worth it unless you netted positive in elixir in each battle.

Im almost maxed th 8.. Onky need to upgrade walls and dark troops.. I used to run low on elixir.. But when i started used baloonions.. Now im always full..

stop TH snipping with mass dragons

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To put this another way if you were a maxed TH10 who already achieved "Gold Grab" and only played clan wars you would have no use for gold right? Yet to get more elixir which you do need more of you gotta use elixir! All your gold would just be sitting there and raiding wouldn't be worth it unless you netted positive in elixir in each battle.

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oh boy,...
by finished GG you mean having stolen 100mil gold ? I think I had done that a month into TH8. I don't gem, and don't lose gold in defenses (th always outside). That means 100mil is enough to get an early TH8 with lvl7 walls.

As of yesterday, I proudly maxed my TH9. That, with all walls at lvl7. And my GG is 380mil.
With the cheapest building at TH10 being 6.4mil (max cannon), I can probably estimate TH10 to cost another 140mil.

So a maxed out bases (Without walls) costs over 500mil. Adding walls lvl11 would make it cost 2.7billion gold...




A TH10 stopping to farm when he has a GG of 100mil would be very pathetic

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Originally Posted by Mynamewastaken

@The orkin man check your sig, your lowest trophies was 0 thats where you start. You didnt start at 192

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lol thanks, just wanted to put an arbitrary number there.

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Originally Posted by hawdog

It very well may be a troll thread. The OP is not showing us their base, so we can't see whether his/her walls are maxed (I highly doubt they are). And like you said, everyone I know has the opposite problem at late TH levels.......... too much elixir, not too much gold.

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Yes. My walls aren't maxed. my point is it takes elixir to farm all the other resources. So why not have gold take up some of the slack? Also at each town hall level once everything is maxed the only thing to renew is your army & spells... Both take elixir.

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Originally Posted by cariacou

stop TH snipping with mass dragons

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lol ok I'll stop.

The "slack" you think exists for gold goes into walls. Walls are insanely expensive. That is where the gold goes.

Now, I like using weird or expensive armies too, for fun. But I only do it once my elixir is over-flowing. If you barch or BAM normally elixir would never be a concern.

Edit: If you max TH8 and have nothing to spend gold on....GO TO TH9. I can promise you'll find some uses for gold there. The example of a max TH10 is simply absurd. Has anyone ever gotten level 11 walls done without gemming?

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Originally Posted by cariacou

oh boy,...
by finished GG you mean having stolen 100mil gold ? I think I had done that a month into TH8. I don't gem, and don't lose gold in defenses (th always outside). That means 100mil is enough to get an early TH8 with lvl7 walls.

As of yesterday, I proudly maxed my TH9. That, with all walls at lvl7. And my GG is 380mil.
With the cheapest building at TH10 being 6.4mil (max cannon), I can probably estimate TH10 to cost another 140mil.

So a maxed out bases (Without walls) costs over 500mil. Adding walls lvl11 would make it cost 2.7billion gold...




A TH10 stopping to farm when he has a GG of 100mil would be very pathetic

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geez 2.7 billion gold!? Looks like I will have plenty of places to spend and even get short on gold haha... My point is you can only build an army with elixir (and DE of course). For argument's sake let's say I max out TH10 (including walls) and thus needed that 2.7 billion gold. I will still forever need elixir to play the game. I'll have to net positive elixir every battle! Why can't gold pay for part of it? Like instead of 200 elixir for an archer make it 150 elixir & 50 gold. Or an even split etc...

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Originally Posted by TheOrkinMan

geez 2.7 billion gold!? Looks like I will have plenty of places to spend and even get short on gold haha... My point is you can only build an army with elixir (and DE of course). For argument's sake let's say I max out TH10 (including walls) and thus needed that 2.7 billion gold. I will still forever need elixir to play the game. I'll have to net positive elixir every battle! Why can't gold pay for part of it? Like instead of 200 elixir for an archer make it 150 elixir & 50 gold. Or an even split etc...

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I'll bite. You don't need to profit elixir EVERY battle. You only need to profit elixir some battles. You can always build up a surplus and use it whenever....

Also, since the gold demand is far greater due to walls, you will find it is far easier to find full elixir storages. Which in turn makes it easier to have full elixir yourself, and the cycle continues. That is why some of us are so confused by this thread...because it simply isn't an issue for any but the most casual players.

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Originally Posted by Pete82

I'll bite. You don't need to profit elixir EVERY battle. You only need to profit elixir some battles. You can always build up a surplus and use it whenever....

Also, since the gold demand is far greater due to walls, you will find it is far easier to find full elixir storages. Which in turn makes it easier to have full elixir yourself, and the cycle continues. That is why some of us are so confused by this thread...because it simply isn't an issue for any but the most casual players.

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agreed. Doesn't have to be a net gain EVERY battle, just over the long term.

Plus, I have been regularly raiding bases at TH8 and TH9 for 175k-200k elixir on a REGULAR basis (around 2/3rds of my farming raids), my army costs around 70k elixir, and my single spell per raid costs 30k, so let's say I'm spending on average 100k elixir per raid, netting me on average, 75k-100k elixir PROFIT. I do anywhere from 10-15 raids over the span of the entire day, so there really is no shortage of elixir except at the very beginning of a new town hall, when I'm spending a ton on offensive upgrades.