The Barch Bible: King James Version

I have been getting a lot of questions lately regarding how I reached Champions League (3500 was my max) by barching. This is a semi-comprehensive guide that I shared with my clan.

Hope this helps anyone looking to master this troop composition!


Barching to Champions League 101

Requirements:
Lvl 6 Barbs and archers
Minimum 220 camp space
lvl 5 lightning spells
Minimum level 15 heroes.

Why does barch work?

Many base designers are mostly worried about protecting the center of their base. To do this they put their strongest defenses in the core and leave point defenses to cover the outside. These defenses only target one at a time and are left vulnerable to multiple targets overpowering them.

The basics:
The aim is to get 50%. To do this to a th10 you need to destroy 39 buildings.
Typical army comp is 75barbs, 165 arch. Bring 5 lightning spells and both heroes.
Search for bases that offer 27+ cups. (9 for one star)

Selecting a base:
This is the most critical part of barch and the most difficult.
Some count 39 buildings that they think they can destroy. I prefer to look for specific types of buildings:
Mines, collectors, drills, builder huts, hero altars, army camps, and barracks. All of these can commonly be found outside walls and easily accessed. If all of these buildings are outside or most are outside and a few directly behind a wall, then locate their key defenses...
(Note: builder huts and hero altars can be lightninged if in the center if in a pinch)

The 4 main types of defenses to watch out for are multi-target infernos, xbows, wizard towers, and mortars.

If discos are near the outside, this is an instant skip. Discos fry barch faster than you can deploy it.

Xbows are the second most devastating. If two of 3 are near the outside if the base and cover several building you need to get, skip.

Mortars and wizard towers are less dangerous, but can wreck a raid. Try to avoid mortars that cannot be destroyed, but still cover several buildings. In many cases there is 2 central mortars and one outer that covers collectors and such, in this case: lightning the outer mortar twice before you attack.

Deployment:
Most barch attacks will happen quickly so take your time luring heroes and CC (if applicable)

Lure heroes to a corner that is not covered by defenses. Always fill your CC with the troops you use to kill heroes. If you have wiz or witch in CC, deploy 4-6 barbs at heroes before deploying CC to tank.

Luring clan castle. Rarely do I lure clan castles. Typically they are more central and a barch raid can be nearly finished before it is activated.

If a clan castle covers a large portion of the buildings you need to destroy, lure it to a corner. Use a lightning spell to save troops if there is a witch or if there is 20+ archers.

When you are finally ready to deploy troops, it is critical to check for outlying Giant Bombs.

GBs insta-kill barch and can kill a raid if they kill enough. Use 5-10 test barbs on places you suspect a GB may be. Common spots are:
In front of an exposed wall, in between builder huts, in front of exposed de drills. Anywhere you see a suspicious 2x2 opening. Then it's time to deploy.

Speed is key when deploying barch. I use one hand to deploy and one to navigate the screen.
Take inventory before you deploy and divide by 4. This is how many troops you will deploy in each side.
Use two fingers to deploy a thin line of barbs (usually 15 per side) and quickly follow with a thick line of archers using 3-4 fingers. (Usually 40 per side.)
Do this on all four sides.
As you do this more, you will notice some sides need more barbs because the buildings are exposed, and some need more archers because the buildings are behind walls. Develop a feel for slight deployment variations, but don't vary too much.

Never count on your troops breaking through a wall. It may happen from time to time, but don't count on it.
If you trigger opposing CC troops while deploying, just continue. There are so many troops to kill the CC troops won't have time. If the CC kills troops on one side and you need a few buildings on that side, just wait till they run away and then deploy a few remaining troops or heroes to clean up.

Backup:
Spells and heroes are for backup. Try to win raids without them because they take a long time to replenish.
If you only need one more building and all your troops are dead, deploy AQ at a low HP building and use her power. After 50% leave immediately.

If you need 10% more, you will need to deploy both heroes, and maybe a few spells. BK should be deployed at areas where buildings are close together because he is slow. Use his power to break through walls. AQ has a long range so use that to your advantage. I rarely deploy heroes into the same area.
While raiding, keep an eye out for building health. Try to mentally tag 2-3 buildings that almost died but didn't, these can be taken out by lightning.


Mentality:
Do everything you can to win a raid, but try to conserve spells and heroes when possible. There is a lot of nexting bases that look barchable, but only raid if you feel it's a sure thing. It takes discipline, but keeps you going up instead of down. I try to pick bases that I don't need spells or heroes. This way, when something goes wrong (this happens a lot) heroes and spells can save the day. That way when I have a heart-attack, it's because I barely won instead of losing.
Share replays:
There are several skilled barchers in our clan who would love to help you reach champs. Swallow your pride, and enjoy the process of learning to perfect the art. It's frustrating when you feel like you did everything right and you still lost. Stay positive because it is a process of learning and developing that feel. Before you know it you will be barching 55% on maxed bases without heroes. Something that seemed impossible before.


Check out the greatest barchers on the forums on the Unofficial Barch Leaderboard!

This will be a walk-through for an entire raid, to show the timing of deployment.

This base is somewhat similar to the base I showed earlier in the thread in the sense that a lot of the key buildings are behind walls. However, in this base, almost all of them are still reachable AND so are a few storages (with little defense coverage). Exposed storages can be deadly, because of their high HP. These ones have very little defense coverage and will be taken down with ease.

Base Selection. Note the time: 1m 26s
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2954a5f5.jpg

I chose to lightning the top mortar, and lure heroes to the top corner. While my CC troops were killing heroes i checked for GBs. There were none to be found. On a base like this, the most likely place GBs will be found is in front of the exposed storages. (I think there were actually double GBs located behind the exposed storages, between WTs and Cannons).
Once the second Hero was killed I deployed my first wave of barbs, then archers behind with 43s on the clock.
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...ps854de9df.jpg

By the time I deployed all my troops (Except heroes) there was 25s left. That means I deployed all 240 troops in 18s. SPEED is key! I can't stress that enough.
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...ps399f71aa.jpg

Because there was still a section behind walls that still had a lot of low-HP buildings, I deployed my AQ early so that the opposing CC troops would be busy before they go to her.
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...pse132e493.jpg
Use AQ invisibility power when you think you can save her the most HP, that way her regeneration time is short.

The AQ took out all the buildings in that section while invisible and secured the victory by 4%. I ended the match after that to conserve her health.
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...ps40a23c60.jpg

Again, please do not reply with a quote to this post as it is very long with all the images.


Please and thank you.

Its just too long.

Wow 3500 with barch is impressive.
nice guide, i alrady use it with my th8 ( th9 in 2 hours) for farm and now i am going to have a push and will try to use barch only.
Will keep an eye on this thread, thanks for the useful tips.
PS: another Perfect building to destroy you didnt mention is the lab.

Nice Job!!

I love it....especially the title. I'll make sure to check this out when I get to TH9...

Nicely written!

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Originally Posted by Luba

Wow 3500 with barch is impressive.
nice guide, i alrady use it with my th8 ( th9 in 2 hours) for farm and now i am going to have a push and will try to use barch only.
Will keep an eye on this thread, thanks for the useful tips.
PS: another Perfect building to destroy you didnt mention is the lab.

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Yeah, I left out lab and Spell Factory just because there is only one of each.

good luck on your push!

Great guide thank you for taking the time.

Posts on barch like these open the eyes to many new people. You obviously know what you are talking about and have mentioned a lot of things to be worried about when barching, which is great! I'm a barcher myself and I don't use lightning spells for mortars. I use one of every spell and use them for specific moments within the raid, but that's just myself. Other than that nice thread bro!

Appreciate it. I barely got to champs Barching and am looking forward to my next try.


Wish you had included screenshots or videos though.

For a second I thought that Lebron James wrote this and I got really confused. Great guide though, and thanks for your help. Looks like I have a lot of upgrading to do on my heroes :rolleyes:

Very informative! Would love to try this out soon

great thread

Great thread, what are your thoughts on BAM? any reason you choose to Barch besides the conservation of DE?

Nicely written thread :)
Will help a lot for trophy pushing

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Originally Posted by quiglo

Great thread, what are your thoughts on BAM? any reason you choose to Barch besides the conservation of DE?

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I used to use bam a lot when farming collectors as a th9.

The main benefit to bam is that it trains much faster, however it is much weaker.

Im not a fan of mixing air and ground troops. If you only use air troops, you eliminate the opposition's wall, cannons, mortars, BK, bombs, and ground only clan castle troops.
If you only use ground troops, you eliminate AD (the most powerful defense), air mines, and air bombs.

When you mix air & ground, you eliminate nothing. Minions typically get wiped out by air mines and at 2 camp space a piece this is deadly. Also it slows down deployment when you add a 3rd troop.

There are several threads dedicated to barch vs bam but most experienced players will agree barch, while longer to train, is more powerful.

Very good guide 👍

Very nice guide, too much of a challenge at TH9?

King James, very well done. It's so nice to read such a well thought-out, informative post!

One question a lvl 9 th how many buildings is it for 50 %

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Originally Posted by Corleonedk

One question a lvl 9 th how many buildings is it for 50 %

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Th 9 has 72 buildings so 36...

However you will run out of th9s at about 2600🏆

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Originally Posted by Guidasholiac

Very nice guide, too much of a challenge at TH9?

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It is possible to reach champs as a th9, however it requires a lot more patience. You have less troops so you have to find easy easy bases. Also expect to be 3 starred every defense. Someone in my clan made it though.

Thank you, It was very helpful.

very good point, bout barch vs bam, definitely will remember that for when i push

Really nice post buddy. I wrote a guide too as this is my pushing method of choice, it's in my sig, but yours is better. Haha.

Thanks for sharing.

A youtuber called Clash with Cam has many video's of this strat if anyone is interested.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT2...Ydhk-kQdlzn6yA

Nice Post King,

I found it very...very interesting that you view Splash Towers to be less devastating to BARCH than xbows which I think is slightly strange. As an only BARCHer and also as a good amount of good barchers know, Splash defenses, especially outside wizard towers and mortars are more detrimental to barch than xbows are. The reason is because Lv4 xbows still take awhile to kill barbs, probably 3 hits, and by that time, you have laid enough archers to kill the buildings. Point defenses in general do not affect much on BARCH. And also, Xbows are single targeting, meaning after every troop they kill, they will have to continuously switch to a new target buying time; and since you have a lot troops in order to overwhelm the defenses, xbows have no real affect. Compare this to outside Splash Towers (lv8) who can 1 hit kill a large group of Archers and 2 hit kill a group of barbs making it much more deadly against barch...

Just a suggestion but if you started to attack bases with xbows outside, you will get a lot farther just like Howie did up to 3700.

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Originally Posted by PhamTheMan

Nice Post King,

I found it very...very interesting that you view Splash Towers to be less devastating to BARCH than xbows which I think is slightly strange. As an only BARCHer and also as a good amount of good barchers know, Splash defenses, especially outside wizard towers and mortars are more detrimental to barch than xbows are. The reason is because Lv4 xbows still take awhile to kill barbs, probably 3 hits, and by that time, you have laid enough archers to kill the buildings. Point defenses in general do not affect much on BARCH. And also, Xbows are single targeting, meaning after every troop they kill, they will have to continuously switch to a new target buying time; and since you have a lot troops in order to overwhelm the defenses, xbows have no real affect. Compare this to outside Splash Towers (lv8) who can 1 hit kill a large group of Archers and 2 hit kill a group of barbs making it much more deadly against barch...

Just a suggestion but if you started to attack bases with xbows outside, you will get a lot farther just like Howie did up to 3700.

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The reason I avoid outer xbows is because the are they effect is large, and the area wiz towers effect is really small. Also, xbows are a lot like Infernos in the sense that it takes almost no time for them to switch targets, unlike other point defenses. The reason I don't fear outer Mortars or WTs:

Mortars- mortars are deadly because they inta-kill groups of archers. However, with several seconds in between shots, the area a mortar covers can be completely wiped out before the mortar has a chance to take effect. A lot of bases place mortars on outside corners covered by a few buildings to prevent direct access (usually army camps which are high HP).
these do not deter me from attacking a base because the buildings can be wiped out quickly and the mortar shoots slow.

WTs- Even a max level Wiz tower only does 48 dps. Compare that to the 110 hp that a level 6 barbarian has. Also, it has the smallest range of 7 tiles (tied with tesla) and this range it typically reduce by one because the WT is behind a wall.

In my experience, because xbows have such a large range, high dps, and can switch targets quickly, they can wreck a raid much easier than splash defenses. This does not mean I won't attack any bases with xbow coverage, but I would only reccomend it for an experienced base picker.

As as far as the limitations of my guide, I stopped at 3531 because my clan's push was over, not because I was losing. Another person in my clan reached 3725 with this method. Gaining cups at that level is actually easier the higher you go because more people are worried about a big gowiwi loss and will happily take a 1 star defense loss. The difficult part is nexting for hours at a time just to find a base that offers more than 10 total cups.

So depending on how long you are willing to climb and how much you are willing to next for a 7 cup win, the sky is the limit.

Barching is counter-productive in the long run.

With clan wars here our clan is now seeing far too many lvl100+ players who have no idea whatsoever what to do to actually 3-star a similar lvl base as theirs...and the reason is because the clowns have been barching/farming their whole time in Clash with no thought of how to actually put together a REAL army that has a shot at REAL stars. :rolleyes:

Particularly once in Masters the need to learn how to effectively deploy a Hogs/GoWiPe/GoWiWi army (which takes time, practice, and experience) is absolutely critical.

Do it the right way from the beginning and you'll find endgame FAR more enjoyable versus the multiple people I've seen quit the game this past month after being humiliated and embarrassed in clan wars. Learn a real attack strategy.

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Originally Posted by MakoClash

Barching is counter-productive in the long run.

With clan wars here our clan is now seeing far too many lvl100+ players who have no idea whatsoever what to do to actually 3-star a similar lvl base as theirs...and the reason is because the clowns have been barching/farming their whole time in Clash with no thought of how to actually put together a REAL army that has a shot at REAL stars. :rolleyes:

Particularly once in Masters the need to learn how to effectively deploy a Hogs/GoWiPe/GoWiWi army (which takes time, practice, and experience) is absolutely critical.

Do it the right way from the beginning and you'll find endgame FAR more enjoyable versus the multiple people I've seen quit the game this past month after being humiliated and embarrassed in clan wars. Learn a real attack strategy.

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Okay, so at least I'm not the only one getting ♥♥♥♥ty comments from this guy, good to know.
Anyone can get to champs with gowipe or gowiwi... If you have max expensive troops, gems to keep atacking with an army that lasts more than 2 hours to make, and more gems if you happen to run low on DE because of all the golems and witches you're using.

The real challenge is to do it with little to none gems to boost, and with an army that is cheap (and therefore winning more resources than youre spending to be able to keep attacking) and that doesnt take forever to train.

Arent these armies enough for CWs? Well, loonions definitely are, not for 3 stars, but yes to 2 star a TH9 or 1 star a TH10, and barch can obviously 1 star a TH10. And if theres people in your clan quitting because of not doing good in CWs, maybe that's because their clan talks trash on them instead of encouraging them to become better.

Thanks for the tips! I have been mostly farming with goblins/archers. I have tried barching with limited success. I have learned the hard way some of the most obvious lessons (ie. check for GBs stupid...oops...ouch...). I tend to be a bit thick, but a hard learned lesson is one that sticks. Some of the finer points you mention, troop deployment etc are going to be a great help, and I'm sure I will now see better results with BARCH. I am not pushing for masters, but I would like to get to crystal as a TH8. I have subscribed to your thread, and will be checking in from time to time. Thanks for taking the time to help us all out! BTW, I'm 2 days out to TH8. :cool:

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

Anyone can get to champs with gowipe or gowiwi... If you have max expensive troops, gems to keep atacking with an army that lasts more than 2 hours to make, and more gems if you happen to run low on DE because of all the golems and witches you're using.

The real challenge is to do it with little to none gems to boost, and with an army that is cheap (and therefore winning more resources than youre spending to be able to keep attacking) and that doesnt take forever to train.

Arent these armies enough for CWs? Well, loonions definitely are, not for 3 stars, but yes to 2 star a TH9 or 1 star a TH10, and barch can obviously 1 star a TH10. And if theres people in your clan quitting because of not doing good in CWs, maybe that's because their clan talks trash on them instead of encouraging them to become better.

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Correct, but people are actually quitting the game (see other threads on the board on this subject) after feeling that they "let their clan down" due to not ever getting the right training with a combined army...because they've been barching barching barching and somehow thought that would always be enough.

Nope.

If you can't put together even a lowly giant/healer army that can 2-star+ whatever cup level you're at, you've got a problem...and that includes even as low as Crystal 3, which is relatively easy cup level to dominate.

It also leads to problems when trying to level their heros as using barch at cup levels where DE is plentiful is a whole other skill level versus the idiot versions of barch 90% of the lurkers in this thread are doing where they simply look for dead bases with exposed collectors. :rolleyes:

Build a combined army. Get good at it. 2-star+ is your goal. Only way to not only proceed through the game, but also to get at protected DE storage, which will absolutely be your #1 priority once you get heros.

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Originally Posted by MakoClash

Barching is counter-productive in the long run.

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I disagree. As Theonekamikaze stated, maybe more experienced members need to mentor the less experienced. BARCHing still requires skill and an understanding of the game AI to work properly. That knowledge can then be modified to adjust to the mission at hand. Raid, or punch to the center to kill the TH. I mostly farm, but I also practice going for 3 stars at least once a day. As a newer player, getting the 3 star can be a challenge, as you are trying to conserve resources to upgrade your base as quickly as possible. Going for 3 stars all the time with large expensive armies, IMHO, is counterproductive. You wind up with an underdeveloped base in a higher league, getting pancaked by players you have no hope of defending against. As you develop in the game, better troops come along, allowing different strategies to be employed. As one uses the new troops and strategies, one gains an even better understanding of the game and how to kill a base. Better to try to achieve balance, and use the many methods available, depending on the situation at hand. That is the real trick, knowing when to employ which strategy... Once that is mastered, you have a player able to deal with anything that comes along. And, that player should pass the knowledge on to other less experienced players, not disrespect them for not knowing...

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I disagree. As Theonekamikaze stated, maybe more experienced members need to mentor the less experienced. BARCHing still requires skill...

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Barching requires less skill, much less skill, than putting together a proper combined army with the intention of 3-starring a base.

Much less.

Which is why the noobs flock to it...because "raiding is the hardz!" and "I'm getting the killed likes sos many timezzz!"

The right way to both farm for resources (barch) and prepare yourself for the difficulty of clan wars and C3+ raiding (combined army) is to do both. Do a few farm raids, then take a base down for trophies.

Practice, practice, practice.

Unfortunately because raiding for trophies is "soooooo hard omg omg omg", the tendency is to keep farming, keep barching (only), and mistakenly believe that if the player "just gets one more upgrade" they'll be competitive.

Nope.

Mix it up lurkers, do a few farm raids with lowly unskilled barch/bam, then toss in a combined army. At low levels, go with giant/healer. At higher THs, go with hogs, GoWiPe, etc.

You'd be shocked at how many TH9s are still just barching, and getting their ♥♥♥ handed to them in every clan war. Eye-opening, really.

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Originally Posted by MakoClash

Correct, but people are actually quitting the game (see other threads on the board on this subject) after feeling that they "let their clan down" due to not ever getting the right training with a combined army...because they've been barching barching barching and somehow thought that would always be enough.

Nope.

If you can't put together even a lowly giant/healer army that can 2-star+ whatever cup level you're at, you've got a problem...and that includes even as low as Crystal 3, which is relatively easy cup level to dominate.

It also leads to problems when trying to level their heros as using barch at cup levels where DE is plentiful is a whole other skill level versus the idiot versions of barch 90% of the lurkers in this thread are doing where they simply look for dead bases with exposed collectors. :rolleyes:

Build a combined army. Get good at it. 2-star+ is your goal. Only way to not only proceed through the game, but also to get at protected DE storage, which will absolutely be your #1 priority once you get heros.

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I was a farmer my whole ‘clash-life’, yet the first time I seriously pushed (already a nicely upgraded TH9) I got to 3066 trophies using hogs.

And after that, I continued farming. Barch, BAG, BAM, whatever, but I always farmed. Then I had all my TH9 defenses maxed, and I decided to do heroes. And after a month or so of looning in crystal or masters 3 I am able to keep my lvl 15 heroes under upgrade non-stop, using loons, another cheap, quick army that requires skill, as barch.

Having barched your whole life doesnt mean you cant be able to pull out a decent raid on a mose serious base with a more serious army. In any case, if this is the case, maybe the people who have this problem just dont give a poop about learning a new strat or about CWs.

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Originally Posted by MakoClash

Barching requires less skill, much less skill, than putting together a proper combined army with the intention of 3-starring a base.

Much less.

Which is why the noobs flock to it...because "raiding is the hardz!" and "I'm getting the killed likes sos many timezzz!"

The right way to both farm for resources (barch) and prepare yourself for the difficulty of clan wars and C3+ raiding (combined army) is to do both. Do a few farm raids, then take a base down for trophies.

Practice, practice, practice.

Unfortunately because raiding for trophies is "soooooo hard omg omg omg", the tendency is to keep farming, keep barching (only), and mistakenly believe that if the player "just gets one more upgrade" they'll be competitive.

Nope.

Mix it up lurkers, do a few farm raids with lowly unskilled barch/bam, then toss in a combined army. At low levels, go with giant/healer. At higher THs, go with hogs, GoWiPe, etc.

You'd be shocked at how many TH9s are still just barching, and getting their ♥♥♥ handed to them in every clan war. Eye-opening, really.

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If you read my post, you will see that that is exactly what I'm doing, mixing it up. That was kinda the whole point to my post. I do still believe however, that barch requires a bit more skill than you allow, but I do believe that folks need to mix it up. As for the higher level players, I can't speak about them, as I am still a lowly TH7 trying to make his way...

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Originally Posted by MakoClash

Barching requires less skill, much less skill, than putting together a proper combined army with the intention of 3-starring a base.

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Did you really just say that barching takes much less skill..... Barching requires MUCH skill and precision to pull off in the higher trophy counts as a TH9 and a TH10, let alone going for 1 stars constantly on a trophy run.

I can honestly place down OP GOWIPE or OP GOWIWI and have at least decent timing on my spells, mediocre placement of my heroes and have a decent idea of what to do and I could still pull off at least a 2 star or a 1 star.

Now try doing that with Tier 1 troops who have at max, 100 health and like 60 damage which is x5 wayy less than a golem, wizard, pekka or witch.

Each placement of BARCH has to be delicate and percise or you can wind up with a 49% loss or even less.

Remind you, BARCH doesn't utilize the OP spells that everyone uses with GOWIPE or GOWIWI, the Freeze Spells and the Rage Spells...we have 4-5 Lightning Spells and that's it, at most being able to destroy only 5-8% of buildings.

Edit: And you say that "noobs flock to barch"? My friend i think you're getting confused between farming and trophy pushing with BARCH. When the the last time you saw any of your defensive replays have a BARCH raid in it? No? Maybe rather it's all filled with GOWIWI/Hogs/GOWIPE?? That's right cause those army compositions right there are the pushing armies that everyone flocks too. Until I see my Defensive replays being loitered with BARCH attacks...that's when I'll say that BARCH attracts all the noobs when trophy pushing...not farming.

Well said Phamtheman.

Keep it up with your youtube video guide on how to Barch effectively.

I have a qns though:
are you able to pull off Barch to champion with just level 5 heroes?

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Originally Posted by MakoClash

Barching is counter-productive in the long run.

With clan wars here our clan is now seeing far too many lvl100+ players who have no idea whatsoever what to do to actually 3-star a similar lvl base as theirs...and the reason is because the clowns have been barching/farming their whole time in Clash with no thought of how to actually put together a REAL army that has a shot at REAL stars. :rolleyes:

Particularly once in Masters the need to learn how to effectively deploy a Hogs/GoWiPe/GoWiWi army (which takes time, practice, and experience) is absolutely critical.

Do it the right way from the beginning and you'll find endgame FAR more enjoyable versus the multiple people I've seen quit the game this past month after being humiliated and embarrassed in clan wars. Learn a real attack strategy.

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Although I will agree with your feelings about those who can't attack good bases for more than one star, that is something that is more relevant to a clan wars thread, which this is not.

As far as your sentiments towards barching, couldn't disagree more. If you can get to 3200+ by using cheaper troops and arguably faster climbing, why wouldn't you?
While it is still important to learn to hog, loon, drag, gowiwi/pe, etc... Barch is also important to learn to maximize potential.
There are plenty of great thread out there that show how to use those armies, this one is about barch :).

in the future please keep posts on-topic, armies for clan wars is for a different thread.

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Originally Posted by Zeroith

Well said Phamtheman.

Keep it up with your youtube video guide on how to Barch effectively.

I have a qns though:
are you able to pull off Barch to champion with just level 5 heroes?

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Thanks man:o But I think you could, however it will add more difficulty to your journey and you will need to use them really wisely. But honestly, anyone is able to make Champions as along as you raid smartly and be persistent.

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Originally Posted by MakoClash

Correct, but people are actually quitting the game (see other threads on the board on this subject) after feeling that they "let their clan down" due to not ever getting the right training with a combined army...because they've been barching barching barching and somehow thought that would always be enough.

Nope.

If you can't put together even a lowly giant/healer army that can 2-star+ whatever cup level you're at, you've got a problem...and that includes even as low as Crystal 3, which is relatively easy cup level to dominate.

It also leads to problems when trying to level their heros as using barch at cup levels where DE is plentiful is a whole other skill level versus the idiot versions of barch 90% of the lurkers in this thread are doing where they simply look for dead bases with exposed collectors. :rolleyes:

Build a combined army. Get good at it. 2-star+ is your goal. Only way to not only proceed through the game, but also to get at protected DE storage, which will absolutely be your #1 priority once you get heros.

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Giant-Healer is useless past Crystal 3... Also, most clans on here are facing bases that are th9+ with upgraded bases... G-H won't work on them. BARCH is more skillful than gowipe/gowiwi. You try to get 3200 w/ BARCH and then w/ gowipe/gowiwi and THEN tell us which one's "less skillful."

Still working on getting some pictures in here... Stay tuned.

Can this guide works for a TH 8 too to reach Masters? It will be my goal when i maxed TH8.:)

not bad indeed

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Can this guide works for a TH 8 too to reach Masters? It will be my goal when i maxed TH8.:)

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I dont see why not... Getting to masters there are a lot of options because there is still a good mix of TH9s and TH10s.

great thread, just finished reading.

i have level 3 archers ad barbarians and i have a level 6 town hall.

anyone think i can make it to crystals with barch?

Of course you can, even to Masters. I did it when I was TH6 snipping TH´s with 3 o 4 archers for getting my 4th builder.
It´s a hard work but doable ;)
Now, with CW it´s a little more difficult to find bases with TH unprotected, but I think that is still possible.

I am a barcher, and i just want to warn the beginners to CoC that even if barch is very effective, it is useful to learn to do other types of attacks if you want to be useful in Clan Wars. I went up to Crystal with barching and now, with the Clan Wars I have to go down in trophy to train 3 starring a village with other strategies.

Great thread, I love these types of tutorials...really makes me want to learn how to do it. I have 5 cannons left until my TH 10 defenses are maxed, maybe ill give it a try....THX!!

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Of course you can, even to Masters. I did it when I was TH6 snipping TH´s with 3 o 4 archers for getting my 4th builder.
It´s a hard work but doable ;)
Now, with CW it´s a little more difficult to find bases with TH unprotected, but I think that is still possible.

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thanks, ill start right away.

This base is one I selected for farming but I still wanted to win so the same principles apply...

I circles green the Major defenses that were centralized and put a blue arrow towards all the defenses I have to watch out for.

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...ps328a906f.png

To start, I dropped two lightning spells on the top mortar because it covered the de drills that I wanted, but it also covers the most outer buildings that I needed to destroy.

Lured the BK, looked for Giant Bombs, then deployed starting with the North-West side and ending with the South-West side because that is the clan castle side.

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...psfda1c623.png

Special Note: Look at the time elapsed.. less than a minute to lure BK, search for bombs, deploy and destroy 50%. SPEED IS KEY.

More Pics to come...

At a TH6, almost 7... Can lvl 3 BARCH be effective for either trophy OR farming raids?

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Absolutely!

I don't recommend trophy pushing really for th6, but for farming I highly recommend barch. Splash defenses will be a little bit more dangerous for you.

What I would do if I were you is use strong compositions like giant/healer when you can only raid every hour or so, and if you have a good block of time where you can raid constantly, use barch.

Hope this helps!

I think this should be made sticky. awesome!

Nice guide! Also check out Clash with Cam on youtube for great barching to champion videos!

The worst thing is when you get revenged and lost 40-50 trophies :mad:

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If you need 10% more, you will need to deploy both heroes, and maybe a few spells. BK should be deployed at areas where buildings are close together because he is slow. Use his power to break through walls. AQ has a long range so use that to your advantage. I rarely deploy heroes into the same area.

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I'll try that... I'm blooning to champs, and when I fail a raid badly and still need like, 15%, I usually drop the King as a tank for the Queen, but it often fails. I'll try your way next time ;-).

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Swallow your pride, and enjoy the process of learning to perfect the art. It's frustrating when you feel like you did everything right and you still lost. Stay positive because it is a process of learning and developing that feel.

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I feel this could apply to pretty much any army, and it's definitely true and important. After a lot of hours, a lot of days, a lot of raids, I'm only starting to feel I'm really mastering my balloons.
Someone in my clan tried to push to champs using barch, then changing to bloons, and finally using GoWiPe and GoWiWi. He's a TH10, I'm a TH9, I've started the rush way behind him, and now I'm 50 trophies above him, using balloons all time.
He asked me how I did it. I just (almost) always know that I'll win my attack. I know how many balloons are needed to take this area. I know when to attack, and when to skip.

I guess my next push will be barching. And I'll definitely follow your guide ;-).

Barch battles are usually won and lost before you place the first troops. This is because base selection is the most critical part of barching, and the higher you get, the more devastating the consequenses...

take ke a look at this base and consider the criteria i have posted about choosing a base and decide whether you should attack or not...

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...ps24ef763b.jpg

Although the defense locations are perfect for barch, the key buildings i mentioned are mostly out of reach. This is an instant skip (which can be hard to do if it offers a good amount of cups).

Good Job On The Guide!

This is very informative and I thank you for creating this thread. I am going to attempt this strategy as a town hall 9 once I finish farming. Thanks!

This is a great guide even for a more experienced player like me... When pushing I've tried all types of raids. The only ones that I have not tried are the barch and the all air raid with minions and balloons. I'm going to try this when my clan is ready for a push :) Thanks for posting

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Thanks again for putting this together King James. Would you ever recommend the use of goblins or wall breakers if your main intention is to farm?

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Thanks again for putting this together King James. Would you ever recommend the use of goblins or wall breakers if your main intention is to farm?

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My understanding is this is why Brandon did to farm. I definitely see how it could be useful. But as a th10 myself, I really have to raid other th10s for loot and storages are typically covered by discos so wbs and gobs are of no use. Everyone plays differently so I don't believe there is a single 'best' composition. Just do what fits best with your playing style and schedule.

Excellent thread, I learn a lot, keep trying pushing with barch.

There is the possibility of farm storages with this strategy? Wallbreakers?

Thanks.

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Excellent thread, I learn a lot, keep trying pushing with barch.

There is the possibility of farm storages with this strategy? Wallbreakers?

Thanks.

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Not really. Possible but not typically.

Woah. 3500, bravo.

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For a second I thought that Lebron James wrote this and I got really confused. Great guide though, and thanks for your help. Looks like I have a lot of upgrading to do on my heroes :rolleyes:

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Actually LeBron was the person who wrote this

Great guide! Thanks!

Thanks. This is a great how to guide. I will apply it to farming 👍

Very interesting! I got to crystal 1 with barch before. Will be going for masters next trophy push! Your thread is definitely helpful! Could you put all your raids and stuff on the first page? its a little annoying having to go to different pages for stuff. Thanks!

Also, can you please make a BAM bible if you could? I'm wondering if i could get to masters with it. Thanks!

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Thanks. This is a great how to guide. I will apply it to farming 👍

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sorry for for using your clan or as an example :P

Definetly gonna use this guide, ne and a bunch of other forumers are pushing with barch. Anyone else interested should join us :) the clan is Barch Rising

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Definetly gonna use this guide, ne and a bunch of other forumers are pushing with barch. Anyone else interested should join us :) the clan is Barch Rising

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Is this going on now?

This Guide will help me a bit for my next push, thanks man :o

yep been going on but we've only had 6 people

awesome guide

surely your defence helped you out abit.

could i see a picture of your trophy pushing base?

please and thanks :)

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surely your defence helped you out abit.

could i see a picture of your trophy pushing base?

please and thanks :)

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I literally won one single defense the entire push. And it was some joker trying to loonion my de tank.

Mentally, it was frustrating at first, but i just started expecting losses every time and celebrated one stars.

level 40 heroes are just so OP

Hey King James!
First of all, congrats for your thread. It is very interesting.
It would be cool if you could include some videos. Can you record a few replays from you barching at high level leagues?
Would you mind post some more pictures with your attacks in case you cannot record, and specially the bases you consider a NONO instantly skip?
I really like barching and learning a little more.

Thanks

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Hey King James!
First of all, congrats for your thread. It is very interesting.
Would you mind post some more pictures with your attacks in case you cannot record, and specially the bases you consider a NONO instantly skip?
I really like barching and learning a little more.

Thanks

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I second this. I'd like a sort of Barch quiz, where you had 5 or 10 base pics and let us think how to deploy or whether to next, and then we could scroll down to see if we diagnosed the base correctly.

Not trying to give you more homework, though. Thanks for all you've done. Very useful guide.

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Hey King James!
First of all, congrats for your thread. It is very interesting.
It would be cool if you could include some videos. Can you record a few replays from you barching at high level leagues?
Would you mind post some more pictures with your attacks in case you cannot record, and specially the bases you consider a NONO instantly skip?
I really like barching and learning a little more.

Thanks

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See pages 6 and 7... Sorry its not in the beginning! This is my first forum thread.

I have heard of TH 9's getting up really high in champions. I am almost maxed TH 9. Do you reckon it's possible to do it with the all those TH 10's up their.

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I have heard of TH 9's getting up really high in champions. I am almost maxed TH 9. Do you reckon it's possible to do it with the all those TH 10's up their.

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Absolutely. It's possible for th5s to make it to champs (sniping) it just depends on how long you are willing to put into it. Th9 I would reccomend loonion, but it has been done with barch. Someone in my clan made it to champs with barch only.

Just want to thank King James for making this thread. I have made my Push from 1500 trophies to 1896 in just 2 days because of this guide. I am able to farm as well since I only use 30k elixir for 100 L5 Barbs and 100 L5 Archers. I try to find bases with around 100k-150k elixir to spare. I also rarely use BK and Spells while doing this unless I have not reached 50% on some occassions.

finally figured out how to edit the posts (yes i wear a helmet)

check out the raid walk-through if you haven't already

Thanks for your thread. Very helpful. I currently only use barch for farming.

Hail King James,

one more time congrats to your work in this thread.


Im a th9 with 35d on it. I have already my barch lv6, my camps, cc and spell factory done. Unfortunatly i have my lightnings still on its way to lv4, but i have maxed rages. So im using it instead trying to compensate.
My BK is lv11 and im not upgrading him to keep some power to my barch, being able to make the final percentage sometimes.

My aq is on her way to lv12, i havent used here yet in this push

I've been able to push until master, but it is getting tough. Im really not able to handle maxed th10 bases, i really would like you to guide me somehow to do it...


WHat should i look for when i next? What level of defense should i look for, considerint what it is reasonable to find?

Do you count buildings to destroy b4 attacking?

ANything else can you give me a headsup?

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Hail King James,

one more time congrats to your work in this thread.


Im a th9 with 35d on it. I have already my barch lv6, my camps, cc and spell factory done. Unfortunatly i have my lightnings still on its way to lv4, but i have maxed rages. So im using it instead trying to compensate.
My BK is lv11 and im not upgrading him to keep some power to my barch, being able to make the final percentage sometimes.

My aq is on her way to lv12, i havent used here yet in this push

I've been able to push until master, but it is getting tough. Im really not able to handle maxed th10 bases, i really would like you to guide me somehow to do it...


WHat should i look for when i next? What level of defense should i look for, considerint what it is reasonable to find?

Do you count buildings to destroy b4 attacking?

ANything else can you give me a headsup?

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pushing ing as a th9 with lower level heroes is going to take a lot of patience. Basically you will have to find bases that have an excess of outer buildings or th out. I wouldnt count on destroying any buildings that are behind walls against a though th10. Make sure to take your free buildings and use the next button A LOT. I wish there was some trick for you but im afraid that there is a limit to the strength of base you can beat and the higher you get, the longer it will take to find them.

its still possible, even a th3 can snipe to champs. But it takes a lot of searching.

best of luck!

Thanks, King James.

Its being hard for me. i did went untill 2700+, but then i droped around 100 becus of 3 49%.
My lightnings will be ready today. I am already quite tired from pushing with barch and getting those 49%, a lot of times with the last building with a shot to go.

The problem of the rages is that the units are too much spreaded, so it doesnt really gives you thaaaaat boost. If the units stick together, than splash damages is more effective agains them. So it is a difficult math to do, but it does works sometimes, specially upon heroes when they are getting the last percentage. I can say you keep very tense untill you see those 50% coming. I guess lightning will make it easier, specially if i cant take one strategic mortar in the beggining, or just few buildings in the end if i need it.


I did observe that some layouts i can do 50%, some layouts that really repeats a lot.
Im sure you must have seen some of those layouts you already have this feeling it would work better your barch. That are some layouts very repetitive when we are nexting


I'd like to ask to you picture those you have experienced to be good for your barching and post the pictures if you can. It would be a very interesting asset for your thread and to the entire comunity.

Thanks a lot!

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Thanks, King James.

Its being hard for me. i did went untill 2700+, but then i droped around 100 becus of 3 49%.
My lightnings will be ready today. I am already quite tired from pushing with barch and getting those 49%, a lot of times with the last building with a shot to go.

The problem of the rages is that the units are too much spreaded, so it doesnt really gives you thaaaaat boost. If the units stick together, than splash damages is more effective agains them. So it is a difficult math to do, but it does works sometimes, specially upon heroes when they are getting the last percentage. I can say you keep very tense untill you see those 50% coming. I guess lightning will make it easier, specially if i cant take one strategic mortar in the beggining, or just few buildings in the end if i need it.


I did observe that some layouts i can do 50%, some layouts that really repeats a lot.
Im sure you must have seen some of those layouts you already have this feeling it would work better your barch. That are some layouts very repetitive when we are nexting


I'd like to ask to you picture those you have experienced to be good for your barching and post the pictures if you can. It would be a very interesting asset for your thread and to the entire comunity.

Thanks a lot!

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I do have some pics in the first couple pages now, but there are just so many bases it is impossible to cover them all. This is why I went into detail about what to look for.

It it souds like you are really understanding the principles and lighting will help a ton. Make sure to bring all 4 every raid and try to get both heroes active

Well i took time and lots and lots of 47-49% to learn, but i think i did it. In the end i was being able to barch even maxed th10.
Its all about getting used to the layouts and the correct way to deploy, finding traps and all of that.
I know you did put some pictures in the begining but i was aiming for some more complete. I know you can put all the layouts wich are bachabale here, but there like10-15 layouts that repeats a lot. In the end i got used with them, so there is no need for me anymore. But if you want to make it even better thread you can put it.

Also, just when i was ending my deadline to the push i found phamily shucks videos wixh he barch untill champs.
There are some good advices there that i could have used to help me with the doubts i still had after reading your guide.

I was able to barch until 2929, but i needed to stop becus of deadlines and now im back farming.

Ill wait till i have stronger heroes, and ill do it again

Thanks for your guide, it helped me a lot.

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I was able to barch until 2929, but i needed to stop becus of deadlines and now im back farming.

Ill wait till i have stronger heroes, and ill do it again

Thanks for your guide, it helped me a lot.

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Awesome job! There is a chance barch will be even stronger now with the new update. My heroes are upgrading as well and I will try to get some replays on here once I am ready to push again.

Great guide man, really help me alot :)

Going to be pushing again for the first time since the Hero update. Will be posting changes/tweaks to the strategy once I am done. 2700 cups right now, 500 in 2 days

Level 7 barch coming soon!

Impressive cup record and great guide. I bet you're looking forward to lvl 7 BARCH

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Level 7 barch coming soon!

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Started my archers already. Farming with barch around 3200 atm

I really love this guide everytime i start failing i just re read this guide and see what I was doing wrong and sure enough i am back on the rise again. Unfortunatly my heroes are only lv10 but now with lv7 Barch might push again really want champions badge. Anyway you have done a really great job with this guide King james, Thank you

retooling my strategy finally and am hunting at around 3950 cups now!

check out the unofficial barch leaderboard -> http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...CH-LEADERBOARD