TH9 Wanting to farm mainly de (keep both heroes upgrading)

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May 5th, 2014
Fas

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Originally Posted by Stitch

It all depends. If you are looking to farm the DE as quickly as possible then you can't go wrong with what Tuvya did. This was in Crystal 3.

Check out his thread here where he maxed both Heroes in 2.5m:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...axed-My-Heroes

I am currently doing this exact strategy right now and have got my AQ from 27 to 33 (upgrading to 34) in less than 2 weeks. Should be maxed in the next 2 weeks (approx. 4 hours a day).

My base is completely maxed now and I really want high level heroes, but I'm not willing to gem the resources, so instead I use his method (boosting barracks) and every time the DE storage is full I gem the AQ to wake her and put her back to sleep.

It's almost a guaranteed 50 to 60k every 4 hours.

If you decide to move up to Masters to win DE then you'll have to stay online anyway as a TH9 up there will be attacked very quickly.

So to summarise I'd say more frequent and quick building armies in Crystal 3 going for 1.3 to 2k per battle.

So, what did Tuvya do? The thread says he farmed like a madman but not much other information on what he did. Would love explanation <3
May 5th, 2014
Stitch
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Originally Posted by Fas

So, what did Tuvya do? The thread says he farmed like a madman but not much other information on what he did. Would love explanation <3

There is no real secret, just about putting in the hours. Tuvya's main trick, as with Brandon, was their efficiency. Strength of army vs time between raids.

Essentially you:
- hover around 1,900 to 2,200
- build an army of Tier 1 troops (no DE troops)
- ensure your army has enough Giants / Wall Breakers as you'll mainly be hitting storages
- you need to win enough battles to maintain trophies
- some battles just grab the DE and lose (if you lose then never shield because you might find them again)
- aim for 1.4k to 2k DE per battle (don't search for too long as next army is built, just take a 1k and move on)
- try to average 0 to 1 spell per raid (otherwise Elixir can drain quickly)
- don't focus on gold, but pay attention to Elixir, this can slowly depleat
- always lure Heroes and CC troops first. They can destroy a raid
- only focus on the DE, Gold / Elixir can come after
- if you find an abandoned base with 300k gold / 300k elixir / no DE then just raid it as it'll help keep your Elixir up
- spells are up to you. I go with 1xlight, 2xheal, 1xrage, 1xjump
Tip: Setup and completely use the same army every time. This way you just know what you have with you. For me, it is too hard to save some troops and the adjust the next army. I just throw everything in (going for any last Gold or Elixir) then build the exact same army.

Check out Brandon's awesome guide here:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-Farming-Guide)

Check out Tuvya's excellent thread here:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-DE-in-30-mins

Here is an example of some of the bases I hit (90% are storage raids):
http://s14.postimg.org/qcmsc2ilt/image.jpg

http://s24.postimg.org/3wpdp6dpx/image.jpg

http://s9.postimg.org/a51soawr3/image.jpg

Here are the results from the above 3 (you can see the army used):
http://s28.postimg.org/y44icuykt/image.jpg
May 5th, 2014
keicee
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stitch

There is no real secret, just about putting in the hours. Tuvya's main trick, as with Brandon, was their efficiency. Strength of army vs time between raids.

Essentially you:

hover around 1,900 to 2,200
build an army of Tier 1 troops (no DE troops)
ensure your army has enough Giants / Wall Breakers as you'll mainly be hitting storages
you need to win enough battles to maintain trophies
some battles just grab the DE and lose (if you lose then never shield because you might find them again)
aim for 1.4k to 2k DE per battle (don't search for too long as next army is built, just take a 1k and move on)
try to average 0 to 1 spell per raid (otherwise Elixir can drain quickly)
don't focus on gold, but pay attention to Elixir, this can slowly depleat
always lure Heroes and CC troops first. They can destroy a raid
only focus on the DE, Gold / Elixir can come after
if you find an abandoned base with 300k gold / 300k elixir / no DE then just raid it as it'll help keep your Elixir up
spells are up to you. I go with 1xlight, 2xheal, 1xrage, 1xjump

Tip: Setup and completely use the same army every time. This way you just know what you have with you. For me, it is too hard to save some troops and the adjust the next army. I just throw everything in (going for any last Gold or Elixir) then build the exact same army.

Check out Brandon's awesome guide here:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-Farming-Guide)

Check out Tuvya's excellent thread here:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-DE-in-30-mins

Here is an example of some of the bases I hit (90% are storage raids):
http://s14.postimg.org/qcmsc2ilt/image.jpg

http://s24.postimg.org/3wpdp6dpx/image.jpg

http://s9.postimg.org/a51soawr3/image.jpg

Here are the results from the above 3 (you can see the army used):
http://s28.postimg.org/y44icuykt/image.jpg
thanks for the info. may I ask how do you queue your barracks?
May 5th, 2014
Stitch

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Originally Posted by keicee

thanks for the info. may I ask how do you queue your barracks?

I use the exact same as Tuvya:

1: 4xGiants, 3xWBs, 7xGobs, 16xArch, 11xBarb
2: 4xGiants, 3xWBs, 7xGobs, 16xArch, 11xBarb
3: 3xGiants, 3xWBs, 7xGobs, 16xArch, 17xBarb
4: 3xGiants, 3xWBs, 10xGobs, 15xArch, 13xBarb

Build time is pretty much the same.

I'd pay 1,000 gems for the ability to have a "AUTO QUEUE LAST ARMY" button. By far the most annoying part of this system.

I probably only use the CC troops once every 10 to 15 raids and normally only use BK for final % to reach 50% or smash some easy Gold/Elixir at the end.

From doing this technique and raiding solidly for 4 hours at a time I can honestly see where these people on the forum are coming from when talking about bad loot.

Some days I'm searching like crazy and cant find anything over 800 DE. I even went 3 days (probably over a 100 raids and a 1,000 searches) and didn't get 1 abandoned base. Today I had 5 abandoned bases out of 6 raids, all with less than 10 searches each. The loot is so unpredictable.

What i'm saying is, if it looks bad just stick it out, you're probably in a bad spot and it'll come good. It's very annoying though.
May 5th, 2014
Jarek

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Originally Posted by Stitch

I use the exact same as Tuvya:

1: 4xGiants, 3xWBs, 7xGobs, 16xArch, 11xBarb
2: 4xGiants, 3xWBs, 7xGobs, 16xArch, 11xBarb
3: 3xGiants, 3xWBs, 7xGobs, 16xArch, 17xBarb
4: 3xGiants, 3xWBs, 10xGobs, 15xArch, 13xBarb

Build time is pretty much the same.

I'd pay 1,000 gems for the ability to have a "AUTO QUEUE LAST ARMY" button. By far the most annoying part of this system.

I probably only use the CC troops once every 10 to 15 raids and normally only use BK for final % to reach 50% or smash some easy Gold/Elixir at the end.

From doing this technique and raiding solidly for 4 hours at a time I can honestly see where these people on the forum are coming from when talking about bad loot.

Some days I'm searching like crazy and cant find anything over 800 DE. I even went 3 days (probably over a 100 raids and a 1,000 searches) and didn't get 1 abandoned base. Today I had 5 abandoned bases out of 6 raids, all with less than 10 searches each. The loot is so unpredictable.

What i'm saying is, if it looks bad just stick it out, you're probably in a bad spot and it'll come good. It's very annoying though.

Thanks for interesting info. But I can't imagine how you can get into the core without wizards, without rage and without healers keeping your giants alive. I'd live to see some replays of your attacks.

I'm using giants/healer/wizards/rage combo and can farm easily 5-7k de per hour but its nothing close to 12 -15k per hour.

I've also noticed that you use 30 goblins per raid. I tried to use 20 but can't figure out when to deploy them. They usually go around the base or aren't used at all.
May 5th, 2014
ClashinZach

Seems you didnt get 50% on 2 raids?do you often snipe th to stay in a range?
May 6th, 2014
Stitch

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Originally Posted by Jarek

Thanks for interesting info. But I can't imagine how you can get into the core without wizards, without rage and without healers keeping your giants alive. I'd live to see some replays of your attacks.

I'm using giants/healer/wizards/rage combo and can farm easily 5-7k de per hour but its nothing close to 12 -15k per hour.

I've also noticed that you use 30 goblins per raid. I tried to use 20 but can't figure out when to deploy them. They usually go around the base or aren't used at all.

Are you boosting barracks to get 5 to 7k DE? If so then you can definitely do better than that with a quicker army build.

I guess videos will help but I'm not able to record some right now.

Anyway, I ALWAYS trigger CC Troops and Heroes first and kill them. Much easier when AQ are level 6 or lower as they take 2 shots on max Barbs so can use a lot less troops. If there is a CC full of archers then I just lightning the lot to save troops.
I then drop a few giants to take fire. Then drop just enough wall breakers to get the giants ahead and will then drop a line of archers behind the giants to clear buildings. If a lot of storages then i'll drop some gobs as well to help clear. I'll then drop more giants and wall breakers to keep them moving forward. I'm only really worried about Wizard Towers as they can wipe out so many troops. This is why I try to use Archers behind the giants. Once a path to the DE storage is made I'll release a few gobs. Depending on what fire they are under I'll drop in bursts / dump the lot / use heal spell etc.
The rest of the troops will be used to gather Gold/Elixir and get 50%. I'll also use the BK to help with this as well.
The good part of doing this is I've normally got a load of Barbs left over so I'll dump these all in 1 spot, drop the BK behind, then use his ability to Rage himself and about 30 barbs. Works great.

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Originally Posted by ClashinZach

Seems you didnt get 50% on 2 raids?do you often snipe th to stay in a range?

If a base is offering over 2k I'm not worried about winning. I'll just grab the DE and move on.

I don't snipe any bases. As I said I like to use the complete army. If I'm dropping a bit quicker than I hoped then I just find an easy 30+ trophy base and 2 star it for a boost. It helps if the base has at least 100k Elixir to cover the cost of the army and a bonus of 500 DE, so it's not a complete waste of time.
May 6th, 2014
Jarek

I've checked your and Tuvya's attack screenshots and I see that you attack every 6 minutes. I always user rage and must wait 12 min between attacks. 2 times more attacks, 2 times more de.

I'll try your army composition and see what I will be able to farm.
May 7th, 2014
Stitch
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarek

Thanks for interesting info. But I can't imagine how you can get into the core without wizards, without rage and without healers keeping your giants alive. I'd live to see some replays of your attacks.

I'm using giants/healer/wizards/rage combo and can farm easily 5-7k de per hour but its nothing close to 12 -15k per hour.

I've also noticed that you use 30 goblins per raid. I tried to use 20 but can't figure out when to deploy them. They usually go around the base or aren't used at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClashinZach

Seems you didnt get 50% on 2 raids?do you often snipe th to stay in a range?

Below is a quick video I made after my DE raiding session yesterday. I didn't have the opportunity to record as I was going along so these were a bit limited. It quickly shows the Attack Log at the start so you can see the 50% for maintaining trophies, armies and spells used.

Raid 1:Getting to core with no spells + Hero for 50% snipe
1. Check CC
2. Activate Heroes
3. Check for Big Bombs
4. Lure Hero to corner and put to sleep
5. Keep Giants in front with Archers behind and keep moving forward towards DE
6. Drop Goblins once a path is clear
7. Get 50% (Note: If I could have locked on to the TH then I was going to drop all barbs, then BK and rush it. This didn't work out so went for 50% of buildings)
Raid 2: Collector farming + Rage to Central Storages
Note: This was my last raid of the night. The base looked like a collector raid and I really wanted a boost to my Elixir so went for it.
1. Lure Heroes to corner and put to sleep
2. Check how my DE is in the collectors (Note: This was enough for me, so I decided to leave the storage (behind IT) and focus on the Elixir in the core of the base.
3. Drop Giants and get them into the base
4. Once inside, drop Rage to keep them there and drop Wall Breakers to smash through to core
5. Keep Archers behind the Giants
6. Grab as much Elixir in core while saving some troops for outside collectors
As I said this was my last raid of the night. I normally wouldn't waste my CC troops or BK in those situations.

Other points to note:
- You can only reload your own CC every 20 minutes so try to get used to not needing them as you'll only have them every 3 raids at best
- I prefer to attack from corners (like in the videos) it makes it easier for controlling the wall breakers (personal preference though).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrLp4E3ioio

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