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Yes, this is another loot thread to highlight the serious problem with loot in this game. No matter what anyone say, there is problem with the loot system. Its absolutely ridiculous that SC still has not fixed the TH10 loot issue. Why is it you get more loot at TH7 than TH10.
We need Gold Mine level 12 and 13 RIGHT NOW!!!
It does suck. I've been in many different trophies and it take forever to find a good gold raid anywhere.
Elixir is okay since i dont need to worry about next but with gold it takes a long time to find a good loot raid
What issue? I was getting nothing for 3 days, dropped 200 trophies and now all I'm getting is 250-300k gold collector raids.
Issue - Not being able to get anything for 3 daysQuote:
Originally Posted by SSofJetlife
Hi,
what trophy level are you at? I'm finding plenty at 2000
Cheers
D
Good loot up at 2400
To answer why th 7 gets more loot. They have a larger pool of villages to raid from than a top of the food chain th10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonn
TH7 can efficiently raid th6-10 for their collectors and storages where th10 has th9 and th10 and a 50% penalty raiding a th8. So many people raiding and collecting, it will be rare to find full collector raids in abundance. Your likely to only find half full collectors.
Being a top tier village your best off being in a trophy range populated with villages you can get good loot from, less nexting. There is another benifit of league bonuses when you move up which helps to increase your take on any given raid.
Th10 comes with extra collectors.
I just got to TH10 and am finding great loot between 1700-1800
I dont think they will fix anything, since loot is pretty good! Just find the right range ;)
Th 10 loot is great at 2600
Every thread should be about this and people shouldn't spend a dime on gems until sc fixes it.
You post lost any small bit of validity it had when you claimed " No matter what anyone say, there is problem with the loot system."Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonn
You dont necessarily get more loot at TH7 than TH10. You get less loot from a lower TH when you are 10 rather than 7. Also, since upgrades are more expensive, it seems a lot harder. Cannons post like 400k or something at TH7 and 8 times that at TH9.
Stop complaining to have the game made easier. People that complain about loot are generally either premmies or in the wrong range. Judging by “Why is it you get more loot at TH7 than TH10." you dont understand the game well and probably is a premmie.
If you are trying to argue that the loot penalty for lower THs should be removed than you are essentially hopeless in this game
No, only idiots who dont understand the game or premmies or dont know how to find the right range and only rely on gems should always post about this and threaten to not buy gems thinking that will solve the problemQuote:
Originally Posted by Postsonpercocet
You mad bro?Quote:
Originally Posted by Benson822175
Only the truth evokes this kind of passionate response. Thanks for validating my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benson822175
Like I said, there isn't a couple of threads from a couple of chumps.
There are TONS of threads pages deep. It's a problem. Period.
Oh, and I'm sure you only have two builders......Quote:
Originally Posted by Benson822175
There are no loot issues. Try 2000+ cups for TH10. I'm finding great loot;):cool:
Try different times of day and ranges. One bad hour in one certain range doesn't mean loot is instantly bad.
No doubt it was better before the loot fix but you will just get over it. I used to be able to farm in 1400 no matter the townhall
Too funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coathanger
72,000 more gold per day is meant to keep TH10s happy.
Back under your bridge troll...
I agree with this, I think that the loot right now is fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by SSofJetlife
Some people say its good, others say its bad. Im starting to lean towards the bad side now that it seems im the only one with a good amount of loot availableQuote:
Originally Posted by JakeTheClasher
Loot doesn't suck. Your just in the wrong trophy range.
That's just because I was at the wrong trophy value for the weekdays.Quote:
Originally Posted by bandtx
wheres all the n00bs whining about the loot? :rolleyes:
Gold 1 upwards is populated with fat TH9s and TH10s
I think there's about three here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zangetsu
Ive seen you in Forum Youth!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy
I'm finding great loot at 2000-2300
they did fix it. thats why you see less loot.
Heading home right after I collect the tears of these TH10s crying about how they can't cope with the increased difficulty and time requirements of being at the end of the game. Nummy nummy. Shead moar ploxerz! Kthx!Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilISuppose
I only find DE there and as th8 really hard to attack people with xbows and inferosQuote:
Originally Posted by Daddy
Still prefer gold III where i can find good bases
I'm a new TH10 doing fine around 1800-2000, same as when I was a TH9.
Loot is great.
I'm finding plenty at 1500-1550 as TH8 right now, I don't see any loot issues.
I've moved from 1500 up to 2000 and can't find 200k. There are no longer collector raids since CW and storages are empty. It's the worst time I've ever had playing this game and I'm honestly thinking of quitting. I can't get enough elixir to upgrade my troops to lvl6 after finally moving to th9. The game has lost its fun entirely with no loot. I've lost 1.5 million elixir over the last 3 days. Never have I ever lost resources over any period of time. I can't believe how bad it's become truthfully.
Should make this a th9 and th10 thread only. Maybe include th8.
people really need to stop relying on collector raid... with the new "special" add on right now, those collector loots are going away faster than expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liderc
This is what i've been advocating for since the loot system change.... DON'T BE A COWARD AND ONLY FARM DEAD BASES... that is the most serious issue with people who says loot is bad... they probably see th10 with 400k loot and just skip right ahead...
Duh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evga
Why would U attack a base knowing U can only take 100K from anyway?
It is backwards how loot is 10x harder to get the higher you go in the game.
Surely they wouldn't make it very easy at the start, get you hooked, and then stick it too you, would they?
I wouldn't mind extra levels on the mines/pumps.
Need some more gold? Take it from the goblins! :D
the loot at 3k was garbage yesterday .. 2900 2800 is the sweet spot for th 10 with max army camps ..
I've no problem with loot at around 2800-3000 trophies. TH10
There is no loot issue , wouldn't be able to max my base if there was . Stop complaining and start attacking active villages . A full th10 can give you 400k , take 2 or 3 storages and a bonus and you get 250/350k gold every attack .
This is priceless. A TH9 who still has purple walls is claiming loot is fine. This is the problem. Loot is fine for people who don't want to farm efficiently. The only people who think loot it fine fit into 3 categories:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack101
1. Build long cook time armies (see the guy who talks about taking 400k from a fully developed th10...give me a break...to crack a fully developed th10 you need at least 2 spells and probably 3 so that's one raid per hour maximum)
2. People who spend massive amounts of money on gems just to farm gold. And I don't mind gemmers, I have 5 builders, I've gemmed buildings, I gem when I push. I just refuse to gem just to do something as simple as farming.
3. People who are new and didn't play before December of last year.
If you are an efficiency farmer who wants to max your base in a timely manner then the farming isn't good and no1 can argue otherwise.
Having the extra levels would help so much. I can't complain too much about loot, to closer I get to master the better it seems to get. Might just be me though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stitch
So you're complaining you can't barch your way to max TH10 anymore? To be honest, it's ridiculous there ever was such a thing as collector raids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smalls
Complaining about cook times.. come on man. Of course you're gonna have to use stronger troops the higher up you get.
I think he might be complaining that SC is giving too much loot. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy
btw, ditto at 2000. I'm finding plenty at 2000-2200 as well.
If anything the longer build times are more frustrating than the loot. I throw gold at walls, start a build, fill up storage's and then sit and wait for a day or two for the next builder to rinse/repeat.
OK, here's a lesson on the economic reality of CoC. Every single active player uses WAY more gold than they can ever hope to produce with their gold mines. And it's not even close. So all of that storage raiding you do came from someone else who didn't use it - in other words, it came from an inactive. If all that were left were active players loot would totally dry up. So your complaint about collector raids is just ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenbeek44
The game that SuperCell set up is one where you need to grind out gold in order to max your base. You just can't grind out gold attacking every hour. And lets just think for a second how long it takes to farm enough gold to max th9 (let's not even go to th10). For walls alone it's 1 billion gold. If you only attack once per hour you will never max th9, let alone th10 walls.
Attacking stronger bases isn't about farming, that's about cup hunting or clan wars. Attacking stronger bases to farm is stupid. It just takes too long.
I'm all for SuperCell making a system where we could progress our base without having to do simple farming. But this is the game they created and if you don't farm efficiently you will never make it to the end.
I've thought about this and it does seem weird that I can loot almost as much gph on my TH5 as I can on my TH10, but on the flip side it's what makes the game more challenging. If we were getting 1M gold per raid at TH10 then everyone would be maxed with zap walls and what's the fun in that. It should progressively get harder the closer you get to the end game in order for the game to be successful IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stitch
Because th 10 has a loot penalty idiot...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonn
The loot is good its just you who does not know what range to use.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smalls
Without collector raids I might aswell just quit the game, because I'll definitely not play to raid once every hour (or more).
Care to share a screenshot of your awesome attack log with us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Theriddler93
OK, I'll go one step further. I might as well just quit the game if they don't give me mine's that pump out 1M gold per hour. How dare they make me do something that requires skill to get loot. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Styper
Probably because I dragged him there;):cool: And in turn it brought sneaky and ath:D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by RogerDodger1954
Skill, sure, in a game where AI directs troops and you basically set them down, yes, sorry for being such a noob Mr. Pro, I'll try to become awesome and only raid active players with 20 minute troop strats, I'm sure if I pay a gym to my barbs I can achieve that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldfury
Loot is fine
Post an attack log please, with TH lvl and trophy range please.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLow
Plus troops comp.
Loot was pretty bad for me a few days ago, but now it seems ok. 1680-1710 range, TH9, barch.
Just your typical "I want a staples easy button so it's not hard" reaction.
Every click won't be and shouldn't be a 400k collector raid. We need to play the game and give some effort to taste the acconishment. Just look at it this way. The pride you get from the base you farmed due to the great challenge it was, will be worth it in the end. Glass half full my man. Glass half full :)
People complaining in this thread are th 10. People that aren't complaining aren't th 10. Is pretty obvious lol.
The trade off is that th 10s get overpowered infernos towers.
Champions league is filled with abandoned bases....almost every search has 300k+ of something, add the loot bonus and thats 420k gold per raid :D
I'm not a collector raider, I use giant+healer and have always gone for storages but they're just as empty or guarded by th10 with max defensesQuote:
Originally Posted by Evga
How can I break into a high end th10 to get all 400k from their storages when I can't even upgrade my troops to lvl6?
You can't blame collector raids on SC. They can't make people quit. If you want consistent loot go attack in masters.
Not all-I haven`t found 250k+ for more than a week.Not a single inactive base..and I play a lot...Quote:
Originally Posted by smarchan
p.s Just found my 1st one with 316k gold and 240k elixir.
No TH8 or TH9 player in our clan has any loot issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorbike
And our only TH10 player has full gold storages most of the time, so he is doing good as well.
I believe that only premmie players and people that lack raiding skills have a loot issue at higher THs.
Since they are at the endgame, but lack the skills / base / troops for it, of course it's hard for them. It's supposed to be. Not every unskilled player should be able to be as successfull as skilled players.
The "loot issue" is probably because farming is to popular now a days and too many people farm with boosted barracks while also too many people don't max their collectors and aswell too many people reach 6hours break before they let their resources circulate aswell and too many people stay online until their upgrades are started and minimize their loot available always while also logging in so often that their collector income only reach their own storages! Look at farmers with 600+ won attacks and such then look at ur own and then dare ask where loot is :) anyway my loot is good enough for a casual player as I don't have a hurry to max my base or anything like that, I play when I have time and sometimes I loose income due to less attacks compared to defences and sometimes the opposite but I don't think there are many people who aren't very inactive that don't get a new upgrade every now and then!
Btw!!! Loot threads are such good example of how everybody want to do as little as possible but still demand as much as possible just the hard thing to beat is that it doesn't really work that way!! If u want more loot then u better spend more time, more gems, and use the time right:)
Spoken like someone who has clearly never been there. Let alone farmed there. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ClanClasher1357
The abandoned bases you see while in Champs are in Masters I or II. Therefore you get 2 or 3 trophies if you 3 star them (aint gonna happen).
The second you log off, and I mean second, you're going to get hit for 10 to 30 trophies. Either you stay online for 6 hours beating these abandoned bases or you attack active bases for more trophies.
Without doing this you'll lose more resources than you make and lose so many trophies you'll be back in Masters before you know it.
what townhall are you... if you are at the start of townhall 9 obviously you won't be able to. and there is always a compromise, hunt those without max defense. even I don't bother to go after max th10 without first having freeze spell, but a midway th10, i'll gladly go if i have my heroes. I'll get at least 2 storages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liderc
Actually, we can blame it on SC... They push the inactives to the very back of the search queue making it EXTREMELY difficult to find them which in turn reduces collector raidingQuote:
Originally Posted by HappyAngryCatfish
Daddy,Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy
That always seems to be the generic response. Sorry but to me that is ♥♥♥♥. The loot system is broken. As you know, the higher TH you are the more you need. But as you increase, the less you get. SC, man up. Increase the collector levels. Increase the league bonus to discourage farming. The game should have more resources.
The only part of this game that works well is the lower town halls. As you increase the worse it gets. Clan wars have been asked for since the game was started and has only been implemented. SC seems to drag their heals.
Have to agree with daddy just above 2000 the loot is killer.
And demanding isn't gonna get you anywhere
I find TONs in Gold 1, although Im a th7
I'm not seeing any problem at all. I find all the loot I could ever ask for in the 1500-1600 range.
The latest loot update started off with an initial loss of loot, because things needed to even out in the system, and everyone had to get used to the higher storage raids they would encounter. Now, many months after the update has been released, the system has shown to be a large success. I am currently a max level 104 town hall 9 farming all level 9 walls, and for every 20-30 searches in the gold two division, I find a 200-300k collector raid. I actually think that I've been finding more of them than before the update was released :) Also, I have noticed that there are ALOT more storage raids that give 300-400k on bases a town hall 9 can easily handle. So what do I have to say to the people still whining about the update? Simple.
1) If you are finding "no loot", it's a good indication that you aren't trying hard enough OR you aren't in the right trophy range. Right now, for town hall 7-9, gold divisions are the best spot for finding the highest sum of gold. For even lower town halls, crystal divisions are the best for finding loot. Lastly, crystal league and up are all excellent areas of farming and attacking for town hall 10s.
2) It may be that you are not spending enough time searching for a match. There are times of the day where I'll have to search twice as much as I normally have to, but I eventually find a great base that results in a large profit.
3) Try to have "gold rushes" where you raid for 1-2 hours straight. That way you'll max your total po
ssible profits without having breaks in between with the chance of getting raided.
4) One other way to find more loot is to use the barch army composition, looking for inactive collector bases. You can tell a collector base from a storage base by the animations of the different structures. On a storage base, the storages look full and the mines look empty. Whereas on a collector base, the storages look empty and the mines look full.
5) Now I am not sure about this last point, but it has been speculated that raiding during the nighttime will maximize the amount of bases you find. I have tried this many times, and haven't noticed any difference from raiding during the day and evening like I usually do. (By the way, changing your language will NOT reset the base server you're using. It'll simply use a different chat server)
Ultimately, I hope these points helped. These are my biggest tips to maximizing profit in the game, and maxing your base as fast as possible. :)
you think people do not know or have not try all this???Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukeo
I thought everyone was overreacting about the loot issue, because I finished maxing out my th7 last week and finally went to th8 and it's been very bad so far. I can only imagine how townhall9 and 10 feel. They definitely need to add a level to collectors imo.
Fail assumption. 4 builders btw hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Postsonpercocet
LOL whats logic. clearly any passionate or semi aggressive response validates the previous statement lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Postsonpercocet
Not even mad, just very tired of noobs or people that gem or want the game to be too easy or farm with the wrong army or wrong range complaining about loot
...http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...he-Loot-SystemQuote:
Originally Posted by Dragonn
This addresses your last question, kind of.
All day in the weeks, i will do it when i have time for uploading a image ;) otherwise my latest gave me 177k +8k bonus so 185k in total.Quote:
Originally Posted by Styper
And are you counting how much you spent on your troops? spells?Quote:
Originally Posted by Theriddler93
People forget, a decent army cost 35-40k elixir, add in one spell and you're up to 70-85k elixir for one attack. That means even if you get 150k, you're only making 65k.
Absolutely, I've been hanging around 2600-2800 for a few weeks now, and depending on how many (if any) spells you want to use, there is loads of great loot to be had, if you pick the right times of day etc. A real mix of storages and/or collectors - loads of these bases go for hours on end before getting a shield. For example this morning I got to 6.5M gold so I can upgrade my 2nd inferno, the day before I got 5M elixer to upgrade my freeze to level 3, and after about a day of having my King back I've just about got enough DE to upgrade him again (to 17). I might not have all 5 builders going 24/7, but I only raid very casually and don't really care, I keep it ticking over just nicely.Quote:
Originally Posted by TomRapp
Earlier, to max my Army Camps, I farmed a bit lower down - around 2200 IIRC but sometimes I'd just BAM right down to somewhere in Gold.
Have no clue what you guys are complaining about there tons of good raids. Sometimes it gets annoying skipping around for 4-5 min but the loot bonus helps cut a good chunk of skip costs which is nice. I'm finding lots of raids at my min which is 200k primary plus 150k secondary goal. Even had some 300+ k gold raids tonight. Been working all day so only got s handful of raids but looks like in 5 hours Ive gotten around 3.5 mil total resources with about 4 k being DE which I'm not going for till tomorrow.
Started playing in Jan and have passed quarter billion gold grab so I'm doing okay with this "bad" loot.
Oh been baming alot during last 3 weeks or so which has sped up my daily intake.
The 9 1550-1800 trophies usually. Grab collectors but bring 8 giants and 6 breakers lately to get into storages which is becoming my standard army.
I don't the that issue because i have almaot maxed my th9, i have some def upgrades(in case i get bored upgrading walls), and lvl 10 walls. My troops are done, and i feel like the elexir is overflowin and i find more elexir loot then gold to be honest, so i don't know how you are having a hard time. I even use mass-dragons to spend the elexir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liderc