Question about upgrade order! :)

Hello everybody. I want to ask a question, my town hall will upgrade to level 9 in about 12 hours. I have few questions about what to upgrade first. I have saved up 6mil gold and elixir so that is not a problem.
lets get to gold upgrades first. Please note I have 5 builders so choose 5 of the following options
OPTIONS

GOLD :-
XBOWS : I can at start build my 2 xbows.
CLAN CASTLE : I can start the clan castle upgrade as it is now 5mil!
WALLS, NEW BUILDINGS E.T.C : All new buildings and upgrading new walls at start

ELIXIR :-
LABORATORY : I think this is pretty much confirmed. Still any opnions
SPELL FACTORY : upgrading the spell factory for jump spell!
DARK BARRACKS : unlocking the final troop in the game, the witch!
ARMY CAMPS : Upgrading the army camps to level 7

Please choose 5 ​of the options given above! Thanks for reading

Gold:
All new buildings and upgrading new walls at start then;
X-Bow
-upgrade your walls to level 8 around 2-5
Cannon
-upgrade your walls to level 8 around 2-5
Mortar
-upgrade your walls to level 8 around 2-5
Wizard Tower
-upgrade your walls to level 8 around 2-5
Air Defense
-upgrade your walls to level 8 around 2-5
Clan Castle
-upgrade your walls to level 8 around 2-5

Dark Elixir:
Archer Queen

Elixir:
Laboratory Upgrade all troops

Gold:
XBow
New buildings
Clan castle
Mortar
Wiz
AD
Archer Tower
Cannon

DE: Archer Queen, get her up ASAP for the ability!

Elixir: Lab, Camps, Troops,

Builder #1: xbow #1
Builder #2: xbow #2
Builder #3: AQ lvl 1, then immediately AQ lvl2 (note: you require 62,500 DE saved up to do this).
Builder #4: lab
Builder #5: rotate to get new fast-building archer tower and storages at the lower levels.

First of all i'd use all the gold for walls, then:

Builder #1: Army camp
Builder #2: Army camp
Builder #3: Army camp
Builder #4: Army camp
Builder #5: Laboratory

Ready to kick asses when you will attack :D

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Originally Posted by Piazzw

First of all i'd use all the gold for walls, then:

Builder #1: Army camp
Builder #2: Army camp
Builder #3: Army camp
Builder #4: Army camp
Builder #5: Laboratory

Ready to kick asses when you will attack :D

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Perfect :)

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Originally Posted by Piazzw

First of all i'd use all the gold for walls, then:

Builder #1: Army camp
Builder #2: Army camp
Builder #3: Army camp
Builder #4: Army camp
Builder #5: Laboratory

Ready to kick asses when you will attack :D

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Haha, that's actually not a bad idea at all!

When i hit Th9, i did it like this:

Builder 1 X-bow
Builder 2 X-bow
Builder 3 AQ, then AQ to lvl 2
Builder 4 Lab
Builder 5 Spell Factory


Then I focused HARD on grinding out my Army camps while building the new buildings and upgrading them...

B1 = AQ--> X-bow 1
B2 = Lab -->Troops (Giants reco'd IMO, them and B'loons get the biggest boost at lvl6, or Barbs/Archers w/e you use most)
B3 = Spell Fact

B4 + B5 = all new buildings and walls lvl 1 (buildings that take fewer than 12 hrs to go up) while you farm a bit for

B4 --> X-Bow 2
B5 --> Dark Drill

This method set me up to farm for my CC when it was 7 mill (*shakes fist at SC*) and I did the Camps after that first round of upgrades.. then I went to work on growing the 4th Wiz Twr, got the Tesla up and Storages to max, walls to lvl 7 as soon as I could.

yes the Camps are important, and you may want to place them higher in the upgrade order if you wish, but I wanted to be full on offense before I was full on troops, a few extra days of 200-lvl 5 troops wont kill your TH9 life at the start was my view on the camps situation. you can at least use the camps while they upgrade. plus having the AQ even level one was a huge upgrade to my offense. 200 lvl 5 troops + AQ/BK is good for farming early TH9 life while your lab upgrades and troops brew following that.

you are lucky the CC is only 5mill.

YMMV
You will need Elix pretty bad early on prolly 3-4 weeks so Barch /BAM are a good options..
Good luck

Thanks everybody who replied :) i have come to a conclusion/decision!
BUILDER-1 : Xbow
BUILDER-2 : Xbow
BUILDER-3 : Laboratory
BUILDER-4 : Spell Factory or Army camps
BUILDER-5 : New buildings then army camp
opnions still would be great as there is a couple of hours for town hall upgrade

offense first

6M elixir: 2 army camps 4.5M
6M gold: 2 xbow 6M
new buildings (essentially keep a builder on standby while you loot for more elixir)

loot elixir for lab and 2 more army camps
once your army is powered up, loot for DE to get AQ

spell factory (4 spells good, jump spell useless)

last should be:
clan castle (unless you have a good clan)
dark barracks (when you're overflowing with elixir)

Thanks guys you are really helpful, just one final question! Army camp or spell factory first! Now I'm ready!

army camps first.

lab is after first two army camps b/c you need alot of elixir to do initial research.

spells aren't helpful while farming elixir. conserve elixir by using cheap farming troops.

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Originally Posted by bearclan

army camps first.

lab is after first two army camps b/c you need alot of elixir to do initial research.

spells aren't helpful while farming elixir. conserve elixir by using cheap farming troops.

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Ok! I cant wait so ill gem the upgrade in 10 mins haha :D

4 army camps and 1 xbow

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Originally Posted by Piazzw

First of all i'd use all the gold for walls, then:

Builder #1: Army camp
Builder #2: Army camp
Builder #3: Army camp
Builder #4: Army camp
Builder #5: Laboratory

Ready to kick asses when you will attack :D

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best answer... :cool:

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math behind this:

farmers attack 10 times, defense 1 times, therefore upgrading army camps is 10x better than xbows

camps add 4x5 = 20 space from 200 army space you already have, therefore it's 10% added value
xbows just add 2x50 = 100 DPS from you thousands of DPS already have, it's just about 1-2% added value

I would say that an extra spell slot and jump spell is much more important than 5 extra army spaces.

Builders

1. Xbow

2. Xbow

3. AQ level 1-2

4. Lab

5. Camps then new stuff.

This is is my plan anyways.

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Originally Posted by sharonsym

best answer... :cool:

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math behind this:

farmers attack 10 times, defense 1 times, therefore upgrading army camps is 10x better than xbows

camps add 4x5 = 20 space from 200 army space you already have, therefore it's 10% added value
xbows just add 2x50 = 100 DPS from you thousands of DPS already have, it's just about 1-2% added value

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Not every upgrade can have its benefits quantified. For example, the added intimidation factor of two xbows vs. none. Sure, they are not very strong, and many people are scared off by two measly level 1 xbows. But you can't argue that a lot of people are not comfortable raiding a base with xbows, especially mid to high level TH8s, and the xbows will cause them to click next.

Also, if the OP has enough DE to build the AQ right when they ding TH9, why wouldn't they do so before using up all 5 builders? It is an instant build, after all, and they can purge themselves of some DE to make themselves less attractive to attackers, esp considering they are a brand new th9, with th8 defenses.

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Originally Posted by ChristianBPoulsen

I would say that an extra spell slot and jump spell is much more important than 5 extra army spaces.

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yep... small factory add 1 from 3, it's 33% stronger...

but, for farmers... we don't use all spells in 1 raid and we don't use jump spell :cool:

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Originally Posted by hawdog

Not every upgrade can have its benefits quantified. For example, the added intimidation factor of two xbows vs. none. Sure, they are not very strong, and many people are scared off by two measly level 1 xbows. But you can't argue that a lot of people are not comfortable raiding a base with xbows, especially mid to high level TH8s, and the xbows will cause them to click next.

Also, if the OP has enough DE to build the AQ right when they ding TH9, why wouldn't they do so before using up all 5 builders? It is an instant build, after all, and they can purge themselves of some DE to make themselves less attractive to attackers, esp considering they are a brand new th9, with th8 defenses.

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Actually, Intimidation is a bad factor...
yes, with xbows and shiny black skulls / lego walls, those TH8 will click next instead of attacking you and got nothing but give shield.
therefore you're just making yourself more visible to those hoggers / bloons that won't care about your walls and like the white xbows.

I prefer th8 attack me since their giants die too fast and their healers can't get through 4 AD and 4 SAM.

AQ isn't counted because it's instant... when you have free builders and 40K DE, of course AQ must be purchased, but it doesn't take time to build, so after purchashing AQ you can go straight upgrade camps...

2 Xbows, Lab, New stuff, CC
Archer queen (instant)