TH9 Anti-Hog, Unlureable Clan Castle

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April 29th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Ianchu97

Thanks :3 And keep it going on that base design thread, you're helping a bunch of people out

Whoops, didnt notice I was on my old account. Well, what he said :)
April 29th, 2014
Aronos

I actually tried this base last night and have to say that I'm not really a fan. Had someone zap a single mortar then push through the core with just a barch raid from the bottom right side.

I've since reverted to my previous anti-hog layout. Made it a couple of weeks ago and it's served me quite well. You can find it in my sig.

I still have the replay and could probably record if if someone really wanted to see it.
April 29th, 2014
7ony

Awesome awesome base!!! really good! Doing fine 3 attcks 2 def wins (i loose one -one star- because the First raider lose after killing heroes, cc and triger some traps without giving a shield T.T) all were hog attacks btw
April 29th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Aronos

I actually tried this base last night and have to say that I'm not really a fan. Had someone zap a single mortar then push through the core with just a barch raid from the bottom right side.

I've since reverted to my previous anti-hog layout. Made it a couple of weeks ago and it's served me quite well. You can find it in my sig.

I still have the replay and could probably record if if someone really wanted to see it.

Hasnt happened to me lol. Did he win/take your TH/take your DE? And what trophy range are you in? Cos barchers in higher league go for outside buildings only.
April 29th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by 7ony

Awesome awesome base!!! really good! Doing fine 3 attcks 2 def wins (i loose one -one star- because the First raider lose after killing heroes, cc and triger some traps without giving a shield T.T) all were hog attacks btw

Great to hear that :D Thats the kind of results ive been having too, thats why I decided to share the base :p
April 29th, 2014
Aronos

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

Hasnt happened to me lol. Did he win/take your TH/take your DE? And what trophy range are you in? Cos barchers in higher league go for outside buildings only.

Yup, pushed in from the bottom right side and went all the way into the core and took out both DE and TH. I'll post a recording soon.

I'm only sitting in the 1800-2000 range at the moment.
April 29th, 2014
7ony

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Originally Posted by Aronos

Yup, pushed in from the bottom right side and went all the way into the core and took out both DE and TH. I'll post a recording soon.

I'm only sitting in the 1800-2000 range at the moment.

Seems interesting :) should be a good barcher raiding with heroes, cc and spells i guess
April 29th, 2014
Negradomus

I have seen this base before.. Did you modify an existing design or is this claimed to be brand new?
April 29th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Aronos

Yup, pushed in from the bottom right side and went all the way into the core and took out both DE and TH. I'll post a recording soon.

I'm only sitting in the 1800-2000 range at the moment.

You should use the farming setup in gold, wouldve prevented what happened. Still, I cant believe a barcher went through 2 layers of walls, 2 giant bombs, and wrecked 2 infernos and 4 teslas, with the town hall, DE and CC tanking.
April 29th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Negradomus

I have seen this base before.. Did you modify an existing design or is this claimed to be brand new?

All anti hog designs are similar, they all have the non defense ring... But I made this base from scratch. I don't ‘claim’ that it is brand new, it is... Not nice.
April 29th, 2014
Negradomus

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Originally Posted by PhamTheMan

Very valid points and I agree with you on the points of the weaknesses of the base and also how it is a strong-suited anti hog base, hence...calling it an anti-hog base lol :rolleyes:. As an only barch user, I can vouch to say that when I see a very centralized CC on a base like this does in the high 2800s+, I am very happy, but still to this day, not many people know how to barch properly and only a handful are very comfortable with it. On the other hand, barching an anti-base is generally a huge "No, No" in my own experiences when using barch at higher leagues due to the surplus amount of buildings that you need to take out in order to get the 50% (ie, barracks, mines, drills, etc) and you can't solely rely on trying to pick off the defenses because when versing a maxed base, the troops will not last long enough, especially since not only are the wizard towers exposed but also the mortars making it another reason why attacking this kind of base would cause problems since splash coverage on the outside are very deadly to barch. AND if you do attack this base with barch, you will be forced to attack heavier on some sides in order to reach buildings on that second layer and when you do that, CC will be trigger, and xbows will cleanup or time will run out due to the troops being focused on the CC.

The same thing goes for balloons, great strategy originated by Daddy and modified over time but still many people seem to not use it or are still very ineffective with it. Loonion attacks in general are very strong suited and without a doubt a 99.9% chance you will get a 1 star on an Anti-hog base with loons even if you have excellent coverage with your air defenses. In this case, because of how exposed the defenses are on the outside layer, Loonions will have a breeze picking off these defensive buildings on the outside and a straight shot into the core; this is possibly where the centralized ADs come in. Note, anti hog bases are not really meant to be invicible against all attacks, rather just be able to hold off the 1 star or at most the 2 against hogs due to their 3-star capabilities.

And as you say, GOWIWI in any case can destroy any TH9 base no matter how maxed.

But the thing with barching anti hog bases is that they have very large compartments. You really only need to get to about 36% and then your heroes and spells will get remainder.
April 29th, 2014
Negradomus

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

All anti hog designs are similar, they all have the non defense ring... But I made this base from scratch. I don't ‘claim’ that it is brand new, it is... Not nice.

Wasn't trying to be mean. I just remember attacking this base in the past and was curious. It's a notable design because the funneling is unique. No offense intended.
April 29th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Negradomus

But the thing with barching anti hog bases is that they have very large compartments. You really only need to get to about 36% and then your heroes and spells will get remainder.

Your heroes will have nothing to hit, as getting that 36% with barch will mean taking each and every outside building + some buildings inside the walls out...
April 29th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Negradomus

Wasn't trying to be mean. I just remember attacking this base in the past and was curious. It's a notable design because the funneling is unique. No offense intended.

No worries
April 29th, 2014
j2kim

What are thoughts on this base?
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-Hog-variation

I've been using it for about a month and went from 1700ish trophies to about 2600ish... maintaining 2500-2599 trophies usually.

I've found great success in this base in that I typically will only get 1 stared by a HR attack and they rarely get much DE/gold. I will occasionally get 2 starred and 3 starred if the attacker is smart and allows some HR to get in the core but for the most part... only a few leak through into the core.

It works well against all other attacks as well. Most of my attackers are TH10 guys.
April 29th, 2014
Aronos

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

You should use the farming setup in gold, wouldve prevented what happened. Still, I cant believe a barcher went through 2 layers of walls, 2 giant bombs, and wrecked 2 infernos and 4 teslas, with the town hall, DE and CC tanking.

I'm curious what TH9 has infernos. Last I checked this is supposed to be a TH9 anti-hog layout.

Anyways, here's the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JiH...ature=youtu.be
April 29th, 2014
Negradomus

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

Your heroes will have nothing to hit, as getting that 36% with barch will mean taking each and every outside building + some buildings inside the walls out...

http://i.imgur.com/IXim6yi.jpg

The 2 circled funnels have low hp buildings for the most part and without obstruction a single hero would wipe each, the individually circled buildings are those that offer the potential for clutch lightning as they are semi protected from initial deployment.

Anyways, this is why I don't like funnels on anti-hog bases; it does not hold up the cleanup crew at all. I think you would be better off closing those up. You have badass walls, so let them work for you :) don't make it easier for hoggers to acquire the last 2 stars
April 29th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Aronos

I'm curious what TH9 has infernos. Last I checked this is supposed to be a TH9 anti-hog layout.

Anyways, here's the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JiH...ature=youtu.be

Lol ♥♥♥ I meant xbows, not infernos lol.

And about the replay... Im speechless. Ofc it wouldnt have happened if mortars were in the middle, thats the point of the farming version, but this means that I could get 2 stared by barch here in upper crystal :/ Really skilled attacker tho, dont think anyone will have to go through this with the base.
April 29th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Negradomus

http://i.imgur.com/IXim6yi.jpg

The 2 circled funnels have low hp buildings for the most part and without obstruction a single hero would wipe each, the individually circled buildings are those that offer the potential for clutch lightning as they are semi protected from initial deployment.

Anyways, this is why I don't like funnels on anti-hog bases; it does not hold up the cleanup crew at all. I think you would be better off closing those up. You have badass walls, so let them work for you :) don't make it easier for hoggers to acquire the last 2 stars

Youre making me cry :( I havent had a simple problem with barch with the base tho, if I ever do, I'll care about it. In the meantime, I'll focus on defending against hogs, which is what the base aims for.
April 29th, 2014
n3r0s

Anyways it will be fun to try this base next war. As it is atm wars are all about hogs vs antihogs, at least up to th9.
April 29th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by n3r0s

Anyways it will be fun to try this base next war. As it is atm wars are all about hogs vs antihogs, at least up to th9.

I agree. I havent gotten attacked in the last 2 wars tho, so dont have any recent war feedback to share lol
April 29th, 2014
ExtremeCreeper

2 of the outer ad's are placed badly imo. Everything else looks good.
April 29th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by ExtremeCreeper

2 of the outer ad's are placed badly imo. Everything else looks good.

Uhmm.. Yea, so where would you place the two ‘misplaced’ ADs?...
April 29th, 2014
hvacker

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

Uhmm.. Yea, so where would you place the two ‘misplaced’ ADs?...

I like them placed where they are. I know where giants are going :)
April 29th, 2014
supbrah264

Opinions on how this base (overall) compares vs. Ringus formation (seeing as both are strong anti-hog, and similar inner AD placement/xbow placement)? Discuss.
April 29th, 2014
Jordan1120

I like this base a lot and may try it when we get saved layouts. Looks like you need to switch a lot to transform it which I dont like. Other than that sweet base and nice job
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Jordan1120

I like this base a lot and may try it when we get saved layouts. Looks like you need to switch a lot to transform it which I dont like. Other than that sweet base and nice job

You only need to switch the ADs to the outside, the ATs to where the mortars were, the TH to the outside, the mortars to the core, rearrange the core, move the spell factory to the mortar's place, and then save the base...
Lol just kidding. Sounds pretty complicated if I write it step by step, but it took me like 2 or 3 minutes to rearrange it to take the screenshot :rolleyes:
April 30th, 2014
Jordan1120

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

You only need to switch the ADs to the outside, the ATs to where the mortars were, the TH to the outside, the mortars to the core, rearrange the core, move the spell factory to the mortar's place, and then save the base...
Lol just kidding. Sounds pretty complicated if I write it step by step, but it took me like 2 or 3 minutes to rearrange it to take the screenshot :rolleyes:

I like Vinnys because I can take th out and put a storage in for easy use. But once we get saved layouts I will use this. Im too lazy to make a new base
April 30th, 2014
TTTIIIMMM

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Originally Posted by Jordan1120

I like Vinnys because I can take th out and put a storage in for easy use. But once we get saved layouts I will use this. Im too lazy to make a new base

Yeah I used that base for CW, just pushed out defenses to make CC even harder to lure, and centered teslas to stop a second star. Worked great.
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by TTTIIIMMM

Yeah I used that base for CW, just pushed out defenses to make CC even harder to lure, and centered teslas to stop a second star. Worked great.

Dont want to talk smack on other people's bases, just checked vinny's thread on his base, and IMO there isnt enough spacing between the third layer and the core in the corners with the small cushions, some hogs will probably go to the core.
April 30th, 2014
PhamTheMan

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

PHAM
Why did you switch the CC with the DE? :( That's called butchering a masterpiece you know. You could get arrested for that.

I'm DE hunting mann! DE on the side is too open and troops can walk through the 2x2 funneling gap into the core. Me don't want my 2.5k DE offered stolen:(:p
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by PhamTheMan

I'm DE hunting mann! DE on the side is too open and troops can walk through the 2x2 funneling gap into the core. Me don't want my 2.5k DE offered stolen:(:p

Hope you get hogged and 100%ed :rolleyes: That'll teach you
April 30th, 2014
llindvior

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

Lol ♥♥♥ I meant xbows, not infernos lol.

And about the replay... Im speechless. Ofc it wouldnt have happened if mortars were in the middle, thats the point of the farming version, but this means that I could get 2 stared by barch here in upper crystal :/ Really skilled attacker tho, dont think anyone will have to go through this with the base.

There were no heroes in that vid and it would be totally different if the cc was wizards instead if a strange combo of archers and minions.

Still, just solely about base building, this what I meant by extreme end of antihog. Imagine the ultimate extreme situation where the hog ring is as big as the whole map. Yep hogs will run and run and run and the CC, it's surely too, impossible to lure. But what really happening there is, each defense is so far away from one another that they don't protect each other at all. This base is a miniature problem of that ultimate situation.

From that vid though, I think you can try setting xbows to ground. Since you already have air defenses and teslas in the core, setting xbows to ground solves the coverage problem to such a large TH9 base, you see for the whole duration of his king and troops vs your cc troops, there's only one xbow solo actively shooting at things, that really need to be solved.

IMO, the magic distance between defense layer and buffer layer should just be a little bit more than the defense-defense distance. You need your defenses close enough to help each other and close enough to the core so they actually help when the enemy is in the core not after they breach the core. When playing with such dangerous distances though, fine tuning is needed. Low health defenses needs to be placed one more square away from the magic distance because it will be destroyed by the first few approaching hogs and the hogs that didnt reach that defense before it was destroyed will find another target halfway, which is the core. Higher health defenses can be placed right on the magic distance because they can sustain long enough to make sure all hogs are gathered.

In fact the highest health outer ring defense, which is the air defense, should be the one next to a double giant bomb so that all hogs are gathered together, which I see you have done in your base, which is sexy. :)
April 30th, 2014
ItzGoTyme

What's Is This Vinny Base?

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Originally Posted by Jordan1120

I like Vinnys because I can take th out and put a storage in for easy use. But once we get saved layouts I will use this. Im too lazy to make a new base

Anybody got a link to Vinny's base?
April 30th, 2014
Guir

I just saw your base almost completely destroyed...:rolleyes:
April 30th, 2014
THeDeATHMACHIN3

great

great base testing it atm... all bases are bad against gowipe and gowiwi especially anti hog you know how to counter that? if so it would be the perfect base :D
what do you use to farm with as well having trouble finding loot lol
death
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by llindvior

There were no heroes in that vid and it would be totally different if the cc was wizards instead if a strange combo of archers and minions.

Still, just solely about base building, this what I meant by extreme end of antihog. Imagine the ultimate extreme situation where the hog ring is as big as the whole map. Yep hogs will run and run and run and the CC, it's surely too, impossible to lure. But what really happening there is, each defense is so far away from one another that they don't protect each other at all. This base is a miniature problem of that ultimate situation.

From that vid though, I think you can try setting xbows to ground. Since you already have air defenses and teslas in the core, setting xbows to ground solves the coverage problem to such a large TH9 base, you see for the whole duration of his king and troops vs your cc troops, there's only one xbow solo actively shooting at things, that really need to be solved.

IMO, the magic distance between defense layer and buffer layer should just be a little bit more than the defense-defense distance. You need your defenses close enough to help each other and close enough to the core so they actually help when the enemy is in the core not after they breach the core. When playing with such dangerous distances though, fine tuning is needed. Low health defenses needs to be placed one more square away from the magic distance because it will be destroyed by the first few approaching hogs and the hogs that didnt reach that defense before it was destroyed will find another target halfway, which is the core. Higher health defenses can be placed right on the magic distance because they can sustain long enough to make sure all hogs are gathered.

In fact the highest health outer ring defense, which is the air defense, should be the one next to a double giant bomb so that all hogs are gathered together, which I see you have done in your base, which is sexy. :)

Switched xbows to ground only, I have the strange feeling that I'm going to get wrecked by Balloonions soon tho :(

About the "magic distance", i didnt understand much to be honest, but i did understand that ADs are placed correctly, so cheers to me. As a matter of fact, in the CW i'm in atm ive been attack twice by hogs, both wins, and both exactly the same: all hogs deployed at the bottom AD, setting off the first bomb, and then moving to the wiz tower, setting off the second one. One would say people learn from mistakes... Clans don't :P
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Guir

I just saw your base almost completely destroyed...:rolleyes:

Shh, don't let people know :rolleyes:

No kidding tho, it was a one of a kind attack, I can guarantee that wont happen anytime soon to anyone using this base. Especially if they use the farming version when on gold... The idea is for mortars to be in the center to prevent defenses like that one.
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by THeDeATHMACHIN3

great base testing it atm... all bases are bad against gowipe and gowiwi especially anti hog you know how to counter that? if so it would be the perfect base :D
what do you use to farm with as well having trouble finding loot lol
death

No way to counter gowiwi, sorry :( But centralised teslas help a lot against gowipe.

And about loot, I'm currently farming for DE exclusively and finding a ton in crystal 1, but if you meant gold, then I can't help you.
April 30th, 2014
MaxoutCoC

Unlureable??

I like your base.... good job

But No CC is Unlureable.... its just making it hard.... Your CC can be lure with a group of giants and wbs ...
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by MaxoutCoC

I like your base.... good job

But No CC is Unlureable.... its just making it hard.... Your CC can be lure with a group of giants and wbs ...

Oh, nice to know... And how much time/troop space would that take you? And i'm pretty sure the giants would go for the AT at the outside, then the mortar, and then go out to the cannon...
April 30th, 2014
PhamTheMan

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

Switched xbows to ground only, I have the strange feeling that I'm going to get wrecked by Balloonions soon tho :(

About the "magic distance", i didnt understand much to be honest, but i did understand that ADs are placed correctly, so cheers to me. As a matter of fact, in the CW i'm in atm ive been attack twice by hogs, both wins, and both exactly the same: all hogs deployed at the bottom AD, setting off the first bomb, and then moving to the wiz tower, setting off the second one. One would say people learn from mistakes... Clans don't :P

I switched my Bows to ground, and though it provided better coverage of the base, I just got 1 starred by Loons :rolleyes:
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by PhamTheMan

I switched my Bows to ground, and though it provided better coverage of the base, I just got 1 starred by Loons :rolleyes:

One star against loons as a TH9 isnt bad at all IMO. Specially when using a base that focuses on fighting hogs and hogs only :P
April 30th, 2014
n3r0s

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Originally Posted by MaxoutCoC

I like your base.... good job

But No CC is Unlureable.... its just making it hard.... Your CC can be lure with a group of giants and wbs ...

If you have to use much of your army it isn't lure anymore.
April 30th, 2014
hawdog

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Originally Posted by MaxoutCoC

I like your base.... good job

But No CC is Unlureable.... its just making it hard.... Your CC can be lure with a group of giants and wbs ...

If a giant, hog, golem, or balloon is able to reach and start attacking a defensive building when dropped at any point 360 degrees around the map, and the CC has not been triggered, then this is OFFICIALLY an "unlurable" clan castle.

This base has an unlurable clan castle.
April 30th, 2014
MaxoutCoC

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

Oh, nice to know... And how much time/troop space would that take you? And i'm pretty sure the giants would go for the AT at the outside, then the mortar, and then go out to the cannon...

assume luring is done from south.

1. drop two giants let those go where-ever ... those are for distraction
2. drop wbs to break wall between WT and AD
3. send in 2 giants those would enter the camber.. this may partially lure if u have all archers or smaller troops.
4. in this case just as your double bomb goes... immediately break the 2nd wall (drag barrack + gold storage chamber) with the wbs to make sure nothing else is in the cc.

4 giants + 4 wbs = 28 space.
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by MaxoutCoC

assume luring is done from south.

1. drop two giants let those go where-ever ... those are for distraction
2. drop wbs to break wall between WT and AD
3. send in 2 giants those would enter the camber.. this may partially lure if u have all archers or smaller troops.
4. in this case just as your double bomb goes... immediately break the 2nd wall (drag barrack + gold storage chamber) with the wbs to make sure nothing else is in the cc.

4 giants + 4 wbs = 28 space.

Look at the pics of the base before criticizing it maybe? Hogs cant lure the CC, therefore giants cant either >.< And the second pair of wbs wouldnt make it to the second layer, they'd get taken out by xbows.
April 30th, 2014
MaxoutCoC

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Originally Posted by n3r0s

If you have to use much of your army it isn't lure anymore.

i do fake attacks before... sending my hogs... thats not luring??

lure is whatever u do before the main army is deployed. some kids get lured my a candy some need a handful.
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by MaxoutCoC

i do fake attacks before... sending my hogs... thats not luring??

lure is whatever u do before the main army is deployed. some kids get lured my a candy some need a handful.

Luring the clan castle and the heroes means to activate them by sending a troop in their radius, and LURING them to a corner and kill them. Anything else?
April 30th, 2014
hawdog

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Originally Posted by MaxoutCoC

i do fake attacks before... sending my hogs... thats not luring??

lure is whatever u do before the main army is deployed. some kids get lured my a candy some need a handful.

lol, you should probably stop speaking, I think you are making yourself begin to look a bit silly my friend.

like mentioned above, the wbs would not reach the outer wall, their xbows are facing ground only, and will destroy the wbs before they can blow up. You wouldn't have experience with this being a th8.

and the reason they said hogs can't lure is because whatever DLT you drop, a hog, balloon, giant, or golem, even if they manage to break through the first wall, they will only reach the edge of the closest defense. In order to trigger the release of any CC troops, you need to get your DLTs half way past the outermost defense, meaning you need to destroy that defense before even having a CHANCE to lure out some CC troops.

Trust us, it's unlurable.

and stop doing fake attacks, it's not classy.
April 30th, 2014
MaxoutCoC

criticizing??

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

Look at the pics of the base before criticizing it maybe? Hogs cant lure the CC, therefore giants cant either >.< And the second pair of wbs wouldnt make it to the second layer, they'd get taken out by xbows.

that's discussion.

Before I stared I said "I like your base" ... let me add to it "very few bases would be that had to lure"... once th9 I am seriously thinking to use this base.

if I am missing something correct me... would not your xbow be distracted by giants??

Has your cc never been lured? just be honest.
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by hawdog

lol, you should probably stop speaking, I think you are making yourself begin to look a bit silly my friend.

like mentioned above, the wbs would not reach the outer wall, their xbows are facing ground only, and will destroy the wbs before they can blow up. You wouldn't have experience with this being a th8.

and the reason they said hogs can't lure is because whatever DLT you drop, a hog, balloon, giant, or golem, even if they manage to break through the first wall, they will only reach the edge of the closest defense. In order to trigger the release of any CC troops, you need to get your DLTs half way past the outermost defense, meaning you need to destroy that defense before even having a CHANCE to lure out some CC troops.

Trust us, it's unlurable.

and stop doing fake attacks, it's not classy.

Not classy indeed :o
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by MaxoutCoC

that discussion.

Before I stared I said "I like your base" ... let me add to it "very few bases would be that had to lure"... once th9 I am seriously thinking to use this base.

if I am missing something correct me... would not your xbow be distracted my giants??

Has your cc never been lured? just be honest.

Read what me and the other guy posted, and please dont insist on something if youre not sure about it, you might end up looking like a fool :rolleyes: And yeah, of course it gets TRIGGERED in attacks, but when the troops are already deep in the base, it cant just be triggered at the beginning of the attack and lured to be killed, thats what people call an unlureable CC.
April 30th, 2014
MaxoutCoC

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

Luring the clan castle and the heroes means to activate them by sending a troop in their radius, and LURING them to a corner and kill them. Anything else?

Lure

Tempt (a person or animal) to do something or to go somewhere, especially by offering some form of reward.
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by MaxoutCoC

Lure

Tempt (a person or animal) to do something or to go somewhere, especially by offering some form of reward.

Thanks a lot for the oxford definition.
Now, how would that apply at all to clash? Do you tempt troops in the CC with an offer? Uhmm, yea, no.

In clash, luring the CC and heroes means exactly what we stated above.

Now please, can you stop trying to make a point that cannot be made?
April 30th, 2014
MaxoutCoC

I do not worry about looking a fool... till I am learning

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

Read what me and the other guy posted, and please dont insist on something if youre not sure about it, you might end up looking like a fool :rolleyes: And yeah, of course it gets TRIGGERED in attacks, but when the troops are already deep in the base, it cant just be triggered at the beginning of the attack and lured to be killed, thats what people call an unlureable CC.

Are you so perfect? that whatever u say or do is right?

u did not answer my question

"Has your cc never been lured? just be honest."
April 30th, 2014
MaxoutCoC

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Originally Posted by hawdog

lol, you should probably stop speaking, I think you are making yourself begin to look a bit silly my friend.

like mentioned above, the wbs would not reach the outer wall, their xbows are facing ground only, and will destroy the wbs before they can blow up. You wouldn't have experience with this being a th8.

and the reason they said hogs can't lure is because whatever DLT you drop, a hog, balloon, giant, or golem, even if they manage to break through the first wall, they will only reach the edge of the closest defense. In order to trigger the release of any CC troops, you need to get your DLTs half way past the outermost defense, meaning you need to destroy that defense before even having a CHANCE to lure out some CC troops.

Trust us, it's unlurable.

and stop doing fake attacks, it's not classy.

I ll keep that in mind

""3. send in 2 giants those would enter the camber.. this may partially lure if u have all archers or smaller troops.""
So according to u nothing would be lured? in my step 3?
April 30th, 2014
MaxoutCoC

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

Not classy indeed :o

who cares of "classy" .. i just care about end result.

anyways ... what is classy? sending your hogs before luring a cc??
April 30th, 2014
hawdog

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Originally Posted by MaxoutCoC

I keep that in mind

""3. send in 2 giants those would enter the camber.. this may partially lure if u have all archers or smaller troops.""
So according to u nothing would be lured? in my step 3?

this is correct, nothing will be lured in your step 3. Look at the photo below:

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...22/29fb9jq.png

look at the bottom right section. If you are able to break that wall and enter that chamber, your giants/hogs/balloons/golems will only reach the red line. In order for any clan castle troops to be lured, you need to reach the yellow line.

You can't reach the yellowline until the wizard tower and the air defense get destroyed. By the time you destroy those two defenses, you will have to have used so many troops, you are no longer luring, you are attacking their base.
April 30th, 2014
MaxoutCoC

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawdog

this is correct, nothing will be lured in your step 3. Look at the photo below:
look at the bottom right section. If you are able to break that wall and enter that chamber, your giants/hogs/balloons/golems will only reach the red line. In order for any clan castle troops to be lured, you need to reach the yellow line.

You can't reach the yellowline until the wizard tower and the air defense get destroyed. By the time you destroy those two defenses, you will have to have used so many troops, you are no longer luring, you are attacking their base.

Thanx so much, taking so much of your time to answer my question. Truly appreciate it.

I can see what u are saying... So would a very expensive affair to draw that cc out (not using the word lure anymore)

So my step 4 would ... just partially draw the CC... until u have a drag or a pekka.
April 30th, 2014
r1sh4bh

http://imgur.com/a/MT2dR#0

Check this defense solid base this is !!!!!!!!!
April 30th, 2014
7ony

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Originally Posted by r1sh4bh

http://imgur.com/a/MT2dR#0

Check this defense solid base this is !!!!!!!!!

Lol they've tried hard
April 30th, 2014
r1sh4bh

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Originally Posted by 7ony

Lol they've tried hard

Most of them failed to lure out the coc !! Very very bad attacks :D
April 30th, 2014
n3r0s

First night with this base went well, they couldn't lure my CC with giants or archers, and when they attacked the giants went like drunken in the outer circle. I haven't had a hog attack yet though, but we have war tomorrow so it will come. So far I like it a lot!
April 30th, 2014
coops17

Im currently in master 1 as a th9 and will try this base out. My base so far has not been 3 starred and i won a defence even! but the cc placement really had caught my attention. I will let you know how it does in master 1 with maxed th9 buildings.
April 30th, 2014
r1sh4bh

http://i.imgur.com/jSnDSRa.png

Another solid defense win !!!
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

Thanks to everyone for the comments, really wasnt expecting this kind of feedback when I posted the base in the forum :o And glad I helped you out too.
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

Quote:

Originally Posted by coops17

Im currently in master 1 as a th9 and will try this base out. My base so far has not been 3 starred and i won a defence even! but the cc placement really had caught my attention. I will let you know how it does in master 1 with maxed th9 buildings.

I dont know if it will do much in masters one... Hoggers normally dont reach so high as its disco land (I did, but I used to spend 500k searching everytime for a base I could 2 star), lots of gowipes and gowiwis, and CC isnt as important against those strats :( But good luck, TH9 champs is something to be proud of, so go get it!
April 30th, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

Quote:

Originally Posted by r1sh4bh

http://imgur.com/a/MT2dR#0

Check this defense solid base this is !!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the feedback :) I have only had one def loss in the last 3 CWs, and it was against gowiwi, glad it is working out for other people too :rolleyes:
April 30th, 2014
desiboi29

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Originally Posted by ItzGoTyme

Nice base! Do you have a farming version of this?

Yes if you actually scrolled down a bit.
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by desiboi29

Yes if you actually scrolled down a bit.

Pretty sure he said this before I uploaded the farming version lol.
May 1st, 2014
Colt97

th7 trophy base

i was wondering if there is a good th 7 base that will get me to at least gold 1
May 1st, 2014
adow

This base is sweet. Totally using this when I hit TH9
May 1st, 2014
adow

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Originally Posted by Colt97

i was wondering if there is a good th 7 base that will get me to at least gold 1

Dont rely on defense when pushing, youre gonna get there by attacking.
May 1st, 2014
TheRevenge

Thanks!!

I really enjoyed these bases and your tips! Thank you so much!:)
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by TheRevenge

I really enjoyed these bases and your tips! Thank you so much!:)

I dont know what you mean by "my tips", but you're welcome :P
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colt97

i was wondering if there is a good th 7 base that will get me to at least gold 1

I have absolutely no experience at pushing in TH8 or below :( Sorry

There are some general rules tho, that apply to everyone. And the first one and most important one is that you cant rely on defense to get trophies, you have to get them yourself. And as a TH7, I recommend you just TH snipe to gold 1, shouldnt be a problem as most people in gold are farmers :)
May 1st, 2014
Brokkenleg

I am currently trying out your base but with some bad results. 1 attack was great, roasted 25 hogs, but however, the last two defense were 3 stars and 2 stars. I can understand about the 3 star because all my traps were down and he had 40 level 4 hogs. However, with the second one, he managed to get 3 gold storages and get in the core. With 1 healer, 15 giants, and rest was barbs and archers. His troops were level 6. Am I doing something wrong? I have 1 telsa and 1 xbow upgrading atm.
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokkenleg

I am currently trying out your base but with some bad results. 1 attack was great, roasted 25 hogs, but however, the last two defense were 3 stars and 2 stars. I can understand about the 3 star because all my traps were down and he had 40 level 4 hogs. However, with the second one, he managed to get 3 gold storages and get in the core. With 1 healer, 15 giants, and rest was barbs and archers. His troops were level 6. Am I doing something wrong? I have 1 telsa and 1 xbow upgrading atm.

What level defenses do you have?
What trophy range are you in?
Are you using the original version or the farming one?
May 1st, 2014
Brokkenleg

I am currently at 1700 trophies, using the original version. My defenses are basically a level 2 xbow, half skull walls, rest purple, and maxed out th 8 defenses with 2 th 9 motars
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Brokkenleg

I am currently at 1700 trophies, using the original version. My defenses are basically a level 2 xbow, half skull walls, rest purple, and maxed out th 8 defenses with 2 th 9 motars

Your walls arent as good as they should be, and defenses are underlevel for TH9 too. But besides that, I already told this to the guy who bugged me about getting 2 starred by barch... If you're in gold league, use the farming version! It is much better against farming armies like the giant healer that wrecked you. Also I'd tell you to distribute air bombs/mines more evenly around the base and not biased to 2 of the sides for better protection of your loot
May 1st, 2014
Brokkenleg

Thanks a lot for the feedback, I appreciate it :) I will check out your farming version but without ad in the core, I am paranoid about miniball or mass drags. And I am barely able to keep up with my 5 builders, how am I even supposed to upgrade walls? Lol.
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Brokkenleg

Thanks a lot for the feedback, I appreciate it :) I will check out your farming version but without ad in the core, I am paranoid about miniball or mass drags. And I am barely able to keep up with my 5 builders, how am I even supposed to upgrade walls? Lol.

I'm guessing miniballs is balmin/balloonions... Yeah, if someone comes across you with loonions and you have nice loot, you'll be in trouble. Point xbows up to counter this, you have all mortars in the center so no need for ground-only xbows as well. And mass drags... Well, if you get attacked by mass drags in gold 2, you are definitely the unluckiest guy on earth :rolleyes:
May 1st, 2014
Brokkenleg

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

I'm guessing miniballs is balmin/balloonions... Yeah, if someone comes across you with loonions and you have nice loot, you'll be in trouble. Point xbows up to counter this, you have all mortars in the center so no need for ground-only xbows as well. And mass drags... Well, if you get attacked by mass drags in gold 2, you are definitely the unluckiest guy on earth :rolleyes:

Haha yeah. And, I have a question. What trophy range should I move to? 1700 seems pretty dry. Haven't seen any inactive bases in days
May 1st, 2014
Brisado

You have any video of defence to i see? pls? =x
May 1st, 2014
ItzGoTyme

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Originally Posted by desiboi29

Yes if you actually scrolled down a bit.

Well gee, did it ever occur to you that possibly, just possibly I posted that question prior to him updating the thread with a farming version of his base? I guess deductive reasoning doesnt come naturally to everybody :confused:.
May 1st, 2014
RichardF

Really really nice design

Very nice base layout. One of my clan mates is very mature TH9 and has been very pleased with this base design. The defenses i have seen are impressive. 7 L6 wizards in the cc don't hurt either.
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokkenleg

Haha yeah. And, I have a question. What trophy range should I move to? 1700 seems pretty dry. Haven't seen any inactive bases in days

As I've said before in the thread, Im currently farming DE in crystal 1 with loonions, so cant help you with that :(
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Brisado

You have any video of defence to i see? pls? =x

I dont know how to record yet :rolleyes: But arent the def. logs enough?
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardF

Very nice base layout. One of my clan mates is very mature TH9 and has been very pleased with this base design. The defenses i have seen are impressive. 7 L6 wizards in the cc don't hurt either.

Lol yea when having a clan castle that centralised where there is no luring at all, having some wizzies will make the attack go down in flames. Having a dragon isnt bad either :rolleyes:
May 1st, 2014
coops17

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

I dont know if it will do much in masters one... Hoggers normally dont reach so high as its disco land (I did, but I used to spend 500k searching everytime for a base I could 2 star), lots of gowipes and gowiwis, and CC isnt as important against those strats :( But good luck, TH9 champs is something to be proud of, so go get it!

I have been attacked 8 times up in master ll and l and 7/8 have been hog attacks. So there are still hoggers up here. They use rage and freeze and there rest heal spells so they can take on multi IT. First defence with this base was against 6 max pekka, 19 max wiz and lv 30 heroes. He only got the two star which I am happy with.
May 1st, 2014
Brisado

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

I dont know how to record yet :rolleyes: But arent the def. logs enough?

Yes :3, send log pls =)

If you have of balloon and more hog, I appreciate it very much.
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brisado

Yes :3, send log pls =)

If you have of balloon and more hog, I appreciate it very much.

I uploaded all the logs I had from the past month or so to the main page :p Did you not see them or are you asking for more?
May 1st, 2014
Proto

Looks like a tricky base to attack. I used Medak´s base during my push to champ but up there the layout doesn't matter at TH 9…. Unfortunately
May 1st, 2014
Brisado

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Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

I uploaded all the logs I had from the past month or so to the main page :p Did you not see them or are you asking for more?

I just wanted to see more defenses, to see if it works
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proto

Looks like a tricky base to attack. I used Medak´s base during my push to champ but up there the layout doesn't matter at TH 9…. Unfortunately

I really like med's base, but its too mainstream IMO. People know where traps and teslas are, as well as where the CC can be lured from. As you said, defense doesnt matter in champs for a TH9, all you can aim for is not to get 3 stared every time, but I think my base is great for crystal 2 to masters 2 or so, a.k.a the hog zone :p
Btw, congrats on champs and on your base/walls/heroes, looking good :rolleyes:
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brisado

I just wanted to see more defenses, to see if it works

I'll upload more def. logs as soon as I get them :D
May 1st, 2014
Trudog82

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOneKamikaze

I'll upload more def. logs as soon as I get them :D

I might use this base as soon as I get to town hall 9 which won't be for awhile.
May 1st, 2014
TheOneKamikaze

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Originally Posted by Trudog82

I might use this base as soon as I get to town hall 9 which won't be for awhile.

Great :)
May 1st, 2014
MakoClash

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No good for me in G1/C3/C2. Gave it a well-rounded test to see if it could dethrone peabak's Ringus base which has done well for me in those range and it couldn't (see logs pic).

Going back to Ringus, good try though OP, new bases are always fun to test:

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