After over half a year im ending/ leaving my own clan.

Its been probably 7 months since i started my own clan. We worked up to a lvl 95+ clan which is decent to say the least. But being a leader for me was hard work i felt the need to log on all the time to see if anything bad is going on... It was too much... I haven't kicked everyone but recommended people to leave... A lot have, now we are on about 30 members... I decided to promote everyone to co leader (idk why)... It was a tough decision because i knew everyone fairly well but got most of them on gamecenter :)


Basically I'm saying being leader is tough and only do it if you can log in and out a lot.... Which i cant do anymore.

Im looking forward to being a member having no responsibilities :D ... If you're leader and getting bored and frustrated go ahead and leave...

Well as Leader you should have support from your Elders/Co sorry to say but that is bad leadership. You need to take charge, do not be afraid to kick do what deems fit. It is easy if you all work together, what you have failed to do.

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Originally Posted by DragonxXx

Well as Leader you should have support from your Elders/Co sorry to say but that is bad leadership. You need to take charge, do not be afraid to kick do what deems fit. It is easy if you all work together, what you have failed to do.

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This guy is right. Our clan has two co-leaders and I'm one of them. After the update that introduced co-leaders our leader stepped back. It's working great. I can do what I want and if I don't feel sure about something we discuss it, but basically I'm running the clan ATM.

Make one of your coleaders or elders leader, and be an elder or coleader in your own clan.

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Originally Posted by Benny101

This guy is right. Our clan has two co-leaders and I'm one of them. After the update that introduced co-leaders our leader stepped back. It's working great. I can do what I want and if I don't feel sure about something we discuss it, but basically I'm running the clan ATM.

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We rotate leadership in two clans between the 4 original members :)
And it works ok, our extra co's are there to help. And the leader can take a day off to go visit
friends or attend a forum event ;-)

I know i can be hard but IMO you should stick a it.

that's just bad leadership from your part.
Being the leader of the clan also means knowing if you're turning bored of the way clan works, and finding a solution to it.
I myself am very active on the game, thus was able to create a clan from scratch and turn it into something that works pretty well (45+ members, 4/5 war wins and high activity rate). How? By being active a lot, yes, but also and most importantly, by promoting the other motivated and good people and by giving them more power that suited their motivation / value.
Now I'm still leader, surrounded by 5 co leaders, 5 person I have contact with outside of game (we have each other's phone number in case of emergency), and it works like a charm: many situations were resolved by my Co leaders without me being online, I just got the notification when I logged in that stuff happened and how they dealt with during my absence .



by the way, note to supercell: we still need an intermediate clan role between elder and co-leader. Something like chief elder, in order to promote the most active elders who don't want/deserve the high responsibility and/or power co leader have.
Basically elders should be any member that stick to clan's requirements for long enough and proves himself loyal enough. Then, a rank for the most valuable of these loyal members. and then few co leaders for high power/ able to do almost anything a leader can do to help him run a clan.
Of course a perfect system would be a system where leaders could create their own ranks with custom rights/ power for each, but I guess that'd be too much to ask ...

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Originally Posted by Teaas

Ur all saying its bad leadership but thats only now because i cant take the stress. I definatly wasnt a bad leader before. I just wanna be a member now

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You made the right decision. I've been through what you've described. It's just too hectic, members expect you on at all times, they also expect requests to be filled at all times. It's a pain. I also had a active clan as I was very active ensuring that the clan would succeed, but eventually I found myself putting so much time into the game that more important priorities were being delayed. I wasn't very active for about 2 days and noticed members dropping out like rocks. I even made a few more people co-leader but it just didn't seem to be enough. I mean it wasn't surprising I was the most active over all with over 5000 donations each season. Always the one commenting on chat as well. Seems to me most members were only staying due to me. It's so much easier as a member. No pressure at all, login when ya want, donate when ya want. Those that have never started a clan have NO clue how difficult it is to keep members in, how much of your personal life you end up spending just to keep the clan in one piece.

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Originally Posted by Teaas

Ur all saying its bad leadership but thats only now because i cant take the stress. I definatly wasnt a bad leader before. I just wanna be a member now

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You feel pressure from being a leader of a clan in a game? Please... (Never apply for any job that includes leadership qualities!!)

As a leader/co-/elder you're not responsible for anything to your members, it's the other way around. That's why you can kick them and they can't kick you.

A king doesn't serve, it's the other way around - he has servants.

If something bad is going on in the clan, you don't have to take care of it the second it happens. You can do something about it tomorrow, next week, eventually. There is literally no pressure on you. You can just ignore it too if you're not going online etc. Do leader stuff when you'd normally be online playing, leave the rest to co's and elders.

It's really not that hard.

I don't get it... if you're not leaving the game, why leave your clan? Just give lead to someone else.

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Originally Posted by Karganeth

You made the right decision. I've been through what you've described. It's just too hectic, members expect you on at all times, they also expect requests to be filled at all times. It's a pain. I also had a active clan as I was very active ensuring that the clan would succeed, but eventually I found myself putting so much time into the game that more important priorities were being delayed. I wasn't very active for about 2 days and noticed members dropping out like rocks. I even made a few more people co-leader but it just didn't seem to be enough. I mean it wasn't surprising I was the most active over all with over 5000 donations each season. Always the one commenting on chat as well. Seems to me most members were only staying due to me. It's so much easier as a member. No pressure at all, login when ya want, donate when ya want. Those that have never started a clan have NO clue how difficult it is to keep members in, how much of your personal life you end up spending just to keep the clan in one piece.

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I know Right. I ended up wasting 1 month of my life being a leader of a failure clan.

I'm very fortunate to have other Co-leaders and Elders that are very involved and help coordinate with our clan. We all do our part to help our leader out. I've noticed that even being an efficient Co-leader can be a lot of work. I've been busy creating and running our clans forum as well as working on our website that will be launching soon. You have to be sure that the other Co-leaders and Elders all do their part within the clan. Its a team effort and can be very hard one person is doing all the work.

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Originally Posted by Teaas

Ur all saying its bad leadership but thats only now because i cant take the stress. I definatly wasnt a bad leader before. I just wanna be a member now

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If you just wanted to be a member, the simple solution would have been promoting a trusted co-leader to be leader.

If you had a solid group of leaders, which hopefully you did have if you were a good clan, the clan would run just as smooth as before.:)

I think you made the right decision.

COC is a game, if you've had enough of the role you may as well give it up. The game is supposed to be fun. It's not like you're a CEO of a large business, where there anything real at stake. Anyone saying it's bad leadership needs to consider this.

As for leaving rather than being just a member/elder. I can see why you would want to leave. It would be difficult to be in clan with someone else taking the decisions. It could also be difficult for the new leader to lead properly with you there. This often happens with leaders in real life too. perfectly understandable.

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Originally Posted by Teaas

Ur all saying its bad leadership but thats only now because i cant take the stress. I definatly wasn't a bad leader before. I just wanna be a member now

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That is fine and all but what you did to resolve the situation and not kicking the people that needed it is bad leadership. Plus I feel it hurts your cause when you do not address an in-dept post like:

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Originally Posted by Foufoumoro

that's just bad leadership from your part.
Being the leader of the clan also means knowing if you're turning bored of the way clan works, and finding a solution to it.
I myself am very active on the game, thus was able to create a clan from scratch and turn it into something that works pretty well (45+ members, 4/5 war wins and high activity rate). How? By being active a lot, yes, but also and most importantly, by promoting the other motivated and good people and by giving them more power that suited their motivation / value.
Now I'm still leader, surrounded by 5 co leaders, 5 person I have contact with outside of game (we have each other's phone number in case of emergency), and it works like a charm: many situations were resolved by my Co leaders without me being online, I just got the notification when I logged in that stuff happened and how they dealt with during my absence .



by the way, note to supercell: we still need an intermediate clan role between elder and co-leader. Something like chief elder, in order to promote the most active elders who don't want/deserve the high responsibility and/or power co leader have.
Basically elders should be any member that stick to clan's requirements for long enough and proves himself loyal enough. Then, a rank for the most valuable of these loyal members. and then few co leaders for high power/ able to do almost anything a leader can do to help him run a clan.
Of course a perfect system would be a system where leaders could create their own ranks with custom rights/ power for each, but I guess that'd be too much to ask ...

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Originally Posted by Teaas

Its been probably 7 months since i started my own clan. We worked up to a lvl 95+ clan which is decent to say the least. But being a leader for me was hard work i felt the need to log on all the time to see if anything bad is going on... It was too much... I haven't kicked everyone but recommended people to leave... A lot have, now we are on about 30 members... I decided to promote everyone to co leader (idk why)... It was a tough decision because i knew everyone fairly well but got most of them on gamecenter :)


Basically I'm saying being leader is tough and only do it if you can log in and out a lot.... Which i cant do anymore.

Im looking forward to being a member having no responsibilities :D ... If you're leader and getting bored and frustrated go ahead and leave...

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i can totally relate. i led a successful clan before, but i felt to locked in and i kind of wanted to become a nomad and explore other clans.

i passed on leadership to one of the guys that first started with me and today he leads a new clan. i feel pretty proud of him.

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Originally Posted by rsiro

If you just wanted to be a member, the simple solution would have been promoting a trusted co-leader to be leader.

If you had a solid group of leaders, which hopefully you did have if you were a good clan, the clan would run just as smooth as before.:)

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Agree with this. This exact thing happened in my clan. We had a good leader/founder who felt the desire to step down. He promoted me to leader. I am not sure why but I assume it is because of my level of activity. Since the co-leader update, I promoted him to co-leader and it has worked well since he doesn't have to be quite as active.

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Originally Posted by Teaas

Its been probably 7 months since i started my own clan. We worked up to a lvl 95+ clan which is decent to say the least. But being a leader for me was hard work i felt the need to log on all the time to see if anything bad is going on... It was too much... I haven't kicked everyone but recommended people to leave... A lot have, now we are on about 30 members... I decided to promote everyone to co leader (idk why)... It was a tough decision because i knew everyone fairly well but got most of them on gamecenter :)


Basically I'm saying being leader is tough and only do it if you can log in and out a lot.... Which i cant do anymore.

Im looking forward to being a member having no responsibilities :D ... If you're leader and getting bored and frustrated go ahead and leave...

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By that time you should have had at least a few co leads to help you run it lol..thats what my clan does their was 4 leaders now 6 and the clan has 0 problems :). Before you quit it should have given it to someone else...maybe they could have kept it going :).

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Originally Posted by uziu

You feel pressure from being a leader of a clan in a game? Please... (Never apply for any job that includes leadership qualities!!)

As a leader/co-/elder you're not responsible for anything to your members, it's the other way around. That's why you can kick them and they can't kick you.

A king doesn't serve, it's the other way around - he has servants.

If something bad is going on in the clan, you don't have to take care of it the second it happens. You can do something about it tomorrow, next week, eventually. There is literally no pressure on you. You can just ignore it too if you're not going online etc. Do leader stuff when you'd normally be online playing, leave the rest to co's and elders.

It's really not that hard.

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Pretty much this. If you don't have those leadership qualities, better get them here than never.

i lead a clan of 45+ members, its works great have a good structure to the clan, just yesterday i went exploring other clans. I kick when i need to, having a good set of cos/ elders is great. I have two account so i just switch the other to leader and go exploring/visiting, but soon we will have a feeder clan. I can see that you are annoyed but you could of taken a break, be a member and became leader again when you felt like it. My real test for my co's is whrn i go off for a couple of weeks to concentrate on exams but i am sure they will cope great without me

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Originally Posted by MomoZB

That is fine and all but what you did to resolve the situation and not kicking the people that needed it is bad leadership. Plus I feel it hurts your cause when you do not address an in-dept post like:

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You don't know what situations he was faced with, so how can you say the method he used to deal with issues is bad leadership?

Reading the OP suggests he had "offenders" leave voluntarily. Surely that is a more considered form of leadership than the liberal use of the boot.