Heros vs Golem/Valks

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Originally Posted by maggiep0tat0

Heroes, heroes, heroes, heroes, heroes.

They start becoming fairly useful around L20, tolerable @ L25,
and by the time they hit L30, you'll start wondering why you never got them up sooner.

If you can afford to wait the 7 days x forever that it takes to keep them continuously growing
(is 7 days the time for each level - I forget),
then dump your excess DE in golems / hogs first before taking your Amazonian ladies up.

It isn't because they're useless, because a CC full of valks / barbarians can be very painful to deal with;
but because at the moment, GoWiPEs / GoWiWis are a more cost efficient way of getting a 2* done
(not to mention that goleys are also a favourite CC troop for GoWiWis & GoDrags),
and if you must go for the 3rd *, nothing packs a punch better than good ole' bacon.
(OK, maybe mass witches if you do it right.)

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The little (love-hate relationship with her heroes) Potato

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Go drags? Never seen someone do that before.

Well I've never cooked a valk so I wouldn't know.

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Originally Posted by TTTIIIMMM

Go drags? Never seen someone do that before.

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If you have L20+ heroes, maxed dragons, and a lot of patience hunting for a base
(the lower your heroes, the further the AD has to be from the defending heroes / CC),
it's actually quite fun & an *almost* idiot-proof way to win a raid.

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The little (trying to get her dragons to attack the TH instead of the blasted DE storage beside it) Potato

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Originally Posted by maggiep0tat0

If you have L20+ heroes, maxed dragons, and a lot of patience hunting for a base
(the lower your heroes, the further the AD has to be from the defending heroes / CC),
it's actually quite fun & an *almost* idiot-proof way to win a raid.

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The little (trying to get her dragons to attack the TH instead of the blasted DE storage beside it) Potato

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Idiot-proof? Never seen that happen before. I've seen the strategy and it looks pretty meticulous......:eek:

After an L36 AQ with a few healers single handedly got around 60% on my defensively maxed TH9 base yesterday I see the appeal with very high level heroes... but you have to remember that 99% of the people who clash will never take their heroes past L15-L20, myself being one of those people. Not everyone has a bazillion hours daily to play clash and farm for the resources necessary, let alone have your heroes inactive for 3-4 months.

Personally, I upgraded all my de troops first before doing much on my heroes, hence why I still have low level heroes but an advanced base. My golems still need two more levels and I'll get there, especially now that I'm TH10 and will need to start using GoWi___ to help out my clan in CW. I'm in no rush to do my minions to L6 either.

As for valks, I love them and use them a few times a day. I love that people keep talking about the amount of time she takes although they are happy to use witches, golems, dragons or other troops that take longer. She is one of the most underrated troops in the game imo. Also remember that not everyone lives on the game and takes breaks during raids, sometimes for hours on end so what is 45-60 minutes to make a few valks?

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Originally Posted by GameloverHD

Idiot-proof? Never seen that happen before. I've seen the strategy and it looks pretty meticulous......:eek:

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Idiot Proof = any troop combination that NoobMaggie can use to win a raid.

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The little (Idiot) Potato

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Originally Posted by Terraist

As for valks, I love them and use them a few times a day. I love that people keep talking about the amount of time she takes although they are happy to use witches, golems, dragons or other troops that take longer. She is one of the most underrated troops in the game imo. Also remember that not everyone lives on the game and takes breaks during raids, sometimes for hours on end so what is 45-60 minutes to make a few valks?

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Oh, I have no doubt that she packs a punch:
an army of them, coupled with some wizards & appropriately placed spells can wreck quite a bit of havoc.

But here lies the problem:
unless you're trampling on premie bases w/ butter / candy walls,
valk attacks are usually, at best, a 2*.
For this purpose, GoWiWi / GoWiPE is a more time / cost effective army as:
1. you get to split training time between two kinds of barracks; and
2. it doesn't cost as much as an entire army of Valks - even if you're gemming it, DE is by far the most expensive resource to buy.

Now, hoggers and mass witchers you might argue, have to wait insanely long amounts of time / spend ridiculous amounts of DE too.
True - but here lies the difference:
unlike valks, you can completely reduce a maxed base to rubble (READ: 3*)
with hogs / witches.

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The little (loves pigs only when they're on her dinner plate) Potato

I like balloons.
That is all.

I say heros, though my biggest issue with upgrading heros is waiting the week for them to upgrade, that is just painful. I rarely have I the services of both my heros.

As for valks, for me they take too long to train and too much space for what they do. I prefer witches, while they take longer and more space, they can fire over walls and those skeletons are great for triggering traps and handling clan troops.

if supercell shave a few minutes off the valks and made them take 5 or 6 spaces, I would start using them. Mine are at level 2, but they are last in my list to upgrade, but I am getting close to getting to them.

As soon as a valk dominant army gets over 50% of my base, I might say they arent so bad.
Edit: I'm th9, lvl 105, all blue crystal walls, about half my defenses are maxed for th9, and I have lvl 10 heroes. Usually sitting between crystal 3 and crystal 1.