*WB AI* A deep look! Tactics revealed! ~ 1000th post contribution ~

Note: I am fully aware of Junliangs thread about this. I support him and i hope does the same for me. I decided to make this thread because i feel i want to be more specific on terms of defence against these guys.




Hello. I am Fozzie. This is my 1000th post and i want to share with you guys my knowledge on Wall breakers, post update. I have worked hard, and this might be released a little late but the update came out in the middle of the night for me and when i could only download it when i woke up. I also had school today and I have been working hard since. Enjoy!

Defensive tactics against wall breakers!


Spiking -

http://i.imgur.com/p3BVsjj.jpg

No need for any lines to be drawn here. As we expected this tactic is not valid any more Wall breakers simply ignore them, and the only reasons we would still have them is to funnel other troops. Personally, I feel this tactic is now a waste of walls that can be valuable elsewhere.

Wall Strips -

http://i.imgur.com/slk0mbl.jpg

Wall strips were not so effective before because it would take 1-2 WB's to break them. However, post update, we can see they can be effective. Depending on how long your strip is, wall breakers might try to run around the wall strip. This means more time for defences to eliminate the wall breakers before they can do any real damage. Howwever, this all depends on where the attacker chooses to place them.

Buffered Sweet spots -

http://i.imgur.com/7unskOY.jpg

This base I found had a 2 layered 'Buffer'. These are now almost entirely pointless, unless it surrounds a large, if not the whole circumference of your base. With this type of wall strategy, WB's act like other troops by avoiding going for double walls when a single wall is nearby.

Reverse spikes/T-junctions -

http://i.imgur.com/jjl4rlj.jpg

This picture is to solve a debate on these 'reverse spikes'. The first wall breaker was placed, and headed towards the corner, despite the fact i placed him directly in front of the T-Junction. This picture then shows where the 2nd one went, and once again this one was placed in front of the T-Junction.

Wall Strips and spikes combined/1 grid empty space -

http://i.imgur.com/4CpfDBH.jpg

This is just something i thought id test. This tactic could be helpful for funneling wallbreakers into a splash zone or spring trap/s.


WORK IN PROGRESS! (homework time ;( )





Coming soon ~ Single gaps

Any more ideas, leave a comment ill be back on later to read them

I can't wait to test this out later. Please keep updating us.

re: Buffer

If they're going for the green circle, I suspect it's because it's a T, not because it's thinner. I'm pretty unconvinced about wallbreakers detecting wall thickness, although in fairness you don't get much of that at TH9, so I don't get many opportunities to test it. If you really want to prove it, post examples where they go to a thinner area that isn't a T, despite the double wall being closer.

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Originally Posted by Hannibal

re: Buffer

If they're going for the green circle, I suspect it's because it's a T, not because it's thinner. I'm pretty unconvinced about wallbreakers detecting wall thickness, although in fairness you don't get much of that at TH9, so I don't get many opportunities to test it. If you really want to prove it, post examples where they go to a thinner area that isn't a T, despite the double wall being closer.

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Actually, I'm going to edit it now to show that WB's won't go for 'T' intersection, or as it was named in another thread, 'inverse spikes' or something along those lines. I just tested it, and I have some pics to prove it!

Make sure you understand the argument on reverse spikes before you go to the effort. People saying it works are saying that the first wb spawn breaks anywhere. They ignore the reverse spike. But after that they target the reverse spikes.

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Originally Posted by Hannibal

Make sure you understand the argument on reverse spikes before you go to the effort. People saying it works are saying that the first wb spawn breaks anywhere. They ignore the reverse spike. But after that they target the reverse spikes.

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We will see!

About the "Buffered" sweet spots. The WB's splash radius has been increased to about 1 tile. So double walls are ineffective even if you surround the whole circumference of your base with it. (unless you leave a gap)

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Originally Posted by nkcpoker

About the "Buffered" sweet spots. The WB's splash radius has been increased to about 1 tile. So double walls are ineffective even if you surround the whole circumference of your base with it. (unless you leave a gap)

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Interesting, will test this out myself if i come across a base like such.



Recent edit: Pictures made much larger, added reverse spikes, and coming soon: Single gaps

Im a bit sad this isnt getting much response, I've put about 4 hours of effort into this and for only 3 feedback. PLEASE give me your feedback, constructive or positive.

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Originally Posted by nkcpoker

About the "Buffered" sweet spots. The WB's splash radius has been increased to about 1 tile. So double walls are ineffective even if you surround the whole circumference of your base with it. (unless you leave a gap)

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I noticed the same... there was a 3 layered wall and I send in some wb's just to have a "the ♥♥♥♥" expression on my face as they punched through like there was nothing.

@Fozzie, knowing how they work is just the same as how to defend against.... and therefore I don't see a reason to have a separate thread for this.