Clan hoppers, why are they not being punished

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Originally Posted by dahimi

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. -Anatole France

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I believe that covers both our arguments...
The rest was nit-picking.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

I didn't say having a valid reason was arbitrary. I said that determining whether a particular reason is valid or not is what is arbitrary.




So you set your clan to invite only and still have people joining? You should post this in the bugs forum.




The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. -Anatole France

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Your putting way too much time in trying to persuade me and these people. And you are practically defeating what you stand for by saying the things that you are. Just like the next fee limits people from searching indefinitely this idea would limit hopping. If someone knows another person in a clan they should stay there long enough that the time limit for being able to leave the clan without having a time where you can't join a clan is gone. Whoever made this should add a good pole with options for every view.

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Originally Posted by Darbz

As said before, because there are people who leave their clan to attend their other clans or visit their friends or what other reason, leaving n joining clan cant be punishable. Therefore we are looking for a solution, that will not effect anyone "innocent"

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I am confused, are you rejecting or accepting my idea? Do you have a comment to make my idea better?

From what I understand, you can leave a clan during war time for clan wars, visit a clan and come back and attack for your own clan. Do the same thing for donations. If you are truly wanting to join a new clan you need to wait 24 hours to request a donation of the new clan.

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Originally Posted by TheTreeMan

Who does clan visits anyway? If it messes something up for one person and one hundred thousand people are happy, who cares about that one person. It would severely help the game. This is a good idea.

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*erm* Me?

Did I suddenly wake up in a convent without my knowledge?
Because I, like many others, am a free adult who should be allowed to go where I want, when I want, as I please.

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The little (hmm... there was that one farming clan waaaaay back then which didn't allow its members to visit other clans) Potato :rolleyes:

How bout only elders, cos, and the leader can participate in the wars that way if you have someone earn their position that they can even participate in the wars this prevents hoppers from getting on and leaving in prep day or during the war day. It also helps you choose your own battle group and not having a weak link in your members. I think this is the most viable option right now of all that i have read on here.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

Lots of people do this.

1 in a 100,000 people eh? Sounds like the hopper problem is really overblown then, either that or you see the same hoppers over and over.

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If you do like to hop around your clans and manage all 10 of them. well then you are welcome to.

But just because you dont agree that with it, doesnt mean there is no problem.
If you do look at this thread, you see far too many people have an oppionion about it, but somehow you are trying to just put everyone down.

Just like you would like the right to hop among your 10 clans and manage them all, we who do not hop around like a bunny, would like to see who the hoppers are.

How is that too much to ask, or even an issue, that we be able to see how many times someone left a clan or got kicked by it..

I think with the history section of clans left / joined / kicked out maybe leaders / co-leaders could insert comments this would sort out the "innocent" hoppers and would punish the "bad" hoppers. (I do realise this could be open to abuse by immature or vindictive leaders / co-leaders)

Another way to sort this out is if Leaders / Co-leaders could be given the power to report players for "bad" hopping and then after verification of the details SuperCell could punish them appropriately like split the resources/troops that the hopper had amongst the affected clan or lets the affected clan attack that particular player like a revenge.

Lets be honest here, a well managed, well led clan doesnt suffer many issues from hoppers. Even if someone does hop in and out, be thankful for the extra xp and move on.

With a number of high level clans giving away troops for free the problem has also diminished.

Making up restrictions like those mentioned above stops certain types of game play. Its worked perfectly well for the last 18 months there is no need to change it now.

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Originally Posted by VincentVegas

Lets be honest here, a well managed, well led clan doesnt suffer many issues from hoppers. Even if someone does hop in and out, be thankful for the extra xp and move on.

With a number of high level clans giving away troops for free the problem has also diminished.

Making up restrictions like those mentioned above stops certain types of game play. Its worked perfectly well for the last 18 months there is no need to change it now.

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well its not working well these last 18 months. As you can see through out the different comments, lots of people are abusing it.

They give you free xp nothing to complain about

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Originally Posted by JKL2207

I think with the history section of clans left / joined / kicked out maybe leaders / co-leaders could insert comments this would sort out the "innocent" hoppers and would punish the "bad" hoppers. (I do realise this could be open to abuse by immature or vindictive leaders / co-leaders)

Another way to sort this out is if Leaders / Co-leaders could be given the power to report players for "bad" hopping and then after verification of the details SuperCell could punish them appropriately like split the resources/troops that the hopper had amongst the affected clan or lets the affected clan attack that particular player like a revenge.

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Look that my anti-hopping thread in the signature. My idea is similar to yours.

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Originally Posted by VincentVegas

Lets be honest here, a well managed, well led clan doesnt suffer many issues from hoppers. Even if someone does hop in and out, be thankful for the extra xp and move on.

With a number of high level clans giving away troops for free the problem has also diminished.

Making up restrictions like those mentioned above stops certain types of game play. Its worked perfectly well for the last 18 months there is no need to change it now.

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Yes, I agree. Clan like Farming Kings 2 and Max Donators are solving some hopper issues...but not all of them. I feel the most annoying hoppers are those who leave in the middle of clan wars. Not those that request before they donate.

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Originally Posted by Peningdooo

They give you free xp nothing to complain about

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Same as my reply above.

So someone hops, big deal. If you do not like if someone leaves your clan with troops gotten while in your clan, do not donate good or any troops to new recruits. Set up a rule "Donate before requesting" and kick out any one not following the rule.

Problem with most anti-hopping ideas is that they could easily create the opposite. Wicked people would start to lure people from global to their clan just so they can kick them and then punish them for beign rude etc.