Should Upgraded Heroes Be Available During Clan Wars

I ended up quitting wars because I wanted to concentrate on heroes, as I only had walls and them left to do at th10. Queen is permanently on upgrade at lev21 now and trying to gowipe without her each war just wasn't fun. So now I've pretty much quit playing and just let my collectors do the work....gg Supercell. Also grew weary of clan war matchups pitting us against clans with heroes all 20-30+ and ours were 8-20. Making heroes seem to count so little towards matchup strength when they are probably the #1 most important troop is a joke.

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Originally Posted by Mudbone

How is this different than not having your spell factory available for attacks if you are upgrading it?

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That's the problem here. Heroes are treated as a building, and not a troop. You should compare it to troops research. Would it make sense to not being able to use golems for 14 days because they are upgrading..?

Heroes also count for much in war matchmaking. It makes no sense to have them count and not being able to use them.

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Originally Posted by kingdo

you are fine with it, therefore it is fine. Ok...

BTW I never said I had trouble with it. Both my heroes are over lvl 30 and upgrading as we speak. It is a terrible game design.

It's like if you couldn't use your troops while they were upgrading. How dumb would that be?

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It would be even less of a 'problem' than missing your heroes when they upgrade.

It isn't as if I can't see your point, it is just that the constant demands for the dumbing down of the game gets tiresome.

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Originally Posted by Growler

It would be even less of a 'problem' than missing your heroes when they upgrade.

It isn't as if I can't see your point, it is just that the constant demands for the dumbing down of the game gets tiresome.

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I get your point totally. But missing your heroes when they upgrade hurts only you. It's a choice everyone has to make.

Missing your heroes during war hurts your whole team. So you have to ask yourself if staying in the clan while they war hurts them. That's why I think this flaw needs to be corrected.

The problem is supercell has proven time and time again .... Even though they are the most popular mobile game ever for mmo and maybe the most income ... they lack programing and development. Take vain glory for example a startup that was growing they have had 5 updates with new content in the time supercell with millions in revenue has had 1. Supercell will not invest the time and money to give you a seperate attack interface that has your heroes active and lets not forget your spell factory to vs your standard interface. No one can war all week long which is their big push now (we try but its a pain with upgrades). This again makes serious gamers or even intermidiate know they should not spend on this game because super cell is not reinvesting, honestly I bet they have spent far more on tv commercials then development .... Enjoy the game log in and let them wonder why their massive success is not more profitable .....

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Originally Posted by kingdo

That's the problem here. Heroes are treated as a building, and not a troop. You should compare it to troops research. Would it make sense to not being able to use golems for 14 days because they are upgrading..?

Heroes also count for much in war matchmaking. It makes no sense to have them count and not being able to use them.

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You are correct that the issue is based in the fact that the Heroes are treated as a building. But research and upgrading are two different things. You are not researching a new Hero level, you are upgrading.

Spells also count for much in attacking, especially so in wars. The real reason that more people don't complain about loss of spells during Spell Factory upgrades is that you only do it 4 times vs 39 times for the Heroes.

And by the point you made, wars have nothing to do with. Why do we lose the ability to use Heroes at any time when all other troops can be used at their current level while the research is going on.

It seems that the real solution here is to remove upgrading the Heroes from the builders and place it in the Laboratory, not just allow their use during wars.

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Originally Posted by kchristainsen

Wow great idea. that makes a lot of sense

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I don't agree. Research lab is already a clog, imagine adding heroes there too!

I think they should be too but let me tell you why they wont do this, people gem their heroes in order to use them in war so that means SC gets more money. ;)

It depends on Supercell's values. If Supercell wants clans to war often, they should allow us to attack in war with the hero, even if it is upgrading.

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Originally Posted by Coldfury

Mine aren't on upgrade, so I can't test. I read somewhere earlier that upgrading hero's "were" available for attacks, but is that not the case?
I know they're up on defense, but are they not available for offense?

If that's the case, I couldn't agree more. If all heroes are available on defense, then they have to be available on all offense without question.

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I agree with this.

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Originally Posted by Mudbone

You are correct that the issue is based in the fact that the Heroes are treated as a building. But research and upgrading are two different things. You are not researching a new Hero level, you are upgrading.

Spells also count for much in attacking, especially so in wars. The real reason that more people don't complain about loss of spells during Spell Factory upgrades is that you only do it 4 times vs 39 times for the Heroes.

And by the point you made, wars have nothing to do with. Why do we lose the ability to use Heroes at any time when all other troops can be used at their current level while the research is going on.

It seems that the real solution here is to remove upgrading the Heroes from the builders and place it in the Laboratory, not just allow their use during wars.

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This is a simple solution.