If you were curious

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Originally Posted by woopton

lol seriously..

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Its possible, its better to ban them all than to risk banning the wrong person.

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Originally Posted by Herpacleese

It's unfortunate that the posters in this thread would rather overlook the points in these replys and continue with their assumptions.

If individuals cannot be proven guilty, and the offense cannot be overlooked, the only course of action is to punish all involved, meaning the entire clan. If enough warnings were given out over a somewhat lengthy period of time, it is safe to assume that the majority of members where aware of the activities within the clan and were alright with it, shown by remaining a member, and are hence, guilty by association.

The only innocent members would be those who were new to the clan, or those who were very inactive and had no idea what was going on behind the scenes, so to speak.

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You just said that the whole clan is guilty, then said that certain individuals are innocent.

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Originally Posted by woopton

You just said that the whole clan is guilty, then said that certain individuals are innocent.

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Yes I did, and it is an unfortunate consequence the innocent are having to deal with because of the actions of the rest of the clan.

But a necessary consequence none the less.

Wouldn't they have server logs of what went down? Can't they pin point exactly what went down such as a report in global?

Sounds to me like SC and InTheDark just got real butt hurt over something that happens in gradeschool ie being picked on. Know what you did in grade school? Sucked it up, grew because of it, and became mentally stronger instead of telling mommy and daddy. Guess they figured mom might be able to help them get some ice on that hurt butt. Poor babies.

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Originally Posted by Kneegrodamus

Sounds to me like SC and InTheDark just got real butt hurt over something that happens in gradeschool ie being picked on. Know what you did in grade school? Sucked it up, grew because of it, and became mentally stronger instead of telling mommy and daddy. Guess they figured mom might be able to help them get some ice on that hurt butt. Poor babies.

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So you are one who believes antagonism and bulling, in any form, are life lessons and no harm can come from them?

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Originally Posted by woopton

Wouldn't they have server logs of what went down? Can't they pin point exactly what went down such as a report in global?

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I won't pretend to be able to answer that, but I will say that if it were possible, I believe SC would have don't it.

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Originally Posted by Herpacleese

So you are one who believes antagonism and bulling, in any form, are life lessons and no harm can come from them?

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I'm not saying no harm can come from bullying, I'm saying minimal pestering such that of what i read, is in no way harmful and shouldn't be taken as malicious or altering to game play in any manor fashion or form. Thusly i find it difficult to justify a clan wide ban. Disregarding the fact that if anything they should have banned an individual, not the whole group.
Edit: I would like to add that I welcome a ban from the forums with open arms if you consider realistic skepticism to be unacceptable. I feel that we should be able to voice our opinions, and to say that we cannot only when its in regards to something directed at some moderaters is ridiculous. If you had valid reasoning for making a move like that you should be able to defend your point or at least accept criticism. I say this only because i read that anyone posting about this discussion again will receive a permenant ban from the forums. Great way to deal with curiosity and point of view; Just ban it.

Sounds like a high school issue to me. Clan A bullies Clan B, Clan B tattles on Clan A. Seems both sides should just grow up. This world is way too sensitive anymore.

I see a lot of people saying that nobody checks the description. FK and ITD are some of the most popular clans in the game. They get a lot of traffic onto their clan pages. I know people who look at certain clan pages daily i.e. the Sky clans or some of the Top Clans. I check the TF description almost daily because they always change it and it is always funny and brightens my mood;)

Back to the real topic though: I do believe a full ban was harsh but if you look at all the publicity this is getting you will see that this full ban teaches everyone on the forums/reddit to never do something like this. I think SC acted smartly and there was no bias as said earlier. The description was clearly childish and offensive so the fact that ITD has like 3 mods on the forums means nothing:rolleyes: