If you were curious

They got warned already. Several times. So it's not like they know nothing what'll happen. They got what they called. Nothing unfair there.

Does anyone remember Illustris and Farm4gold clan? Kind of the same thing happened then, but it was then claimed that Bonbee had too much influence on the forums.

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Originally Posted by Beagle21

I don't think you understand what I or he was saying, we will just have to agree to disagree.

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No i think your the one who doesn't understand. Explain exactly how when a company based in Finland temporarily bans a group people of various nationalitys from their game after giving them multiple warnings about their inappropriate behaviour (an action they are alowed to take as everyone playing clash of clans has agreed to the tos) german law takes precedence.

I think a mod should deal with this by closing this thread..

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Originally Posted by Nmills

No i think your the one who doesn't understand. Explain exactly how when a company based in Finland temporarily bans a group people of various nationalitys from their game after giving them multiple warnings about their inappropriate behaviour (an action they are alowed to take as everyone playing clash of clans has agreed to the tos) german law takes precedence.

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First they could be German citizens.
Second being in a clan as an elder or member means you have no control over the clan message.
Third what "action" did the members and elders take? Joining a clan months ago when it had a different message?

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Originally Posted by clasher247

I think a mod should deal with this by closing this thread..

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+1

It isn't even worth complaining about, it wasn't a permanent ban.

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Originally Posted by stinkypete

Does anyone remember Illustris and Farm4gold clan? Kind of the same thing happened then, but it was then claimed that Bonbee had too much influence on the forums.

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What happened?

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Originally Posted by Beagle21

First they could be German citizens.
Second being in a clan as an elder or member means you have no control over the clan message.
Third what "action" did the members and elders take? Joining a clan months ago when it had a different message?

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Even if they were german citizens it wouldn't matter, supercell is based in Finland and don't have to obey german laws.

They may not have been the ones who put it up there but they could have suggested it be put up or encouraged other people to put it up. It is possible it may have been a group of members who wanted it put up and the leader felt pressured in to doing it.

The clan was warned multiple times about their behaviour before the ban, people had time to leave.

Its not even a big issue, the ban isn't permanent, It was just to warn them as the verbal warning was ignored.

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They may not have been the ones who put it up there but they could have suggested it be put up or encouraged other people to put it up. It is possible it may have been a group of members who wanted it put up and the leader felt pressured in to doing it.

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lol seriously..

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Originally Posted by Beerking

Wow the immaturity, good call from SC!

I don't have a problem with a clan ban, by beeing in the clan you're supporting the message just like the Top players are forming and joining clans to send a message.
How would SC know who has seen the message and not? How would SC know which of the co leaders/leader that wrote which message(unless they have specific data for that)?
Only fair way to deal with it would be to punish all or none, by punishing none they would say that they are ok with harassment. Props to SC for caring.

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Originally Posted by Beerking

When it comes to a perm ban I'm sure you could get it fixed if you claimed no knowledge, I can't see how anyone would want to be a part of a clan with leaders that acts like this though.

I don't think that they actually knows who posted/saw the message which means we end up with the solutions punish all of them or none. We have had a couple of people in Sweden getting convicted for the same murder when the court is unsure who comitted it but are positive that both where there and part of it.

I think that this is a much more fair comparison then with nazi germany. You know that someone of them did it but you don't know who, letting everyone go unpunished can't be a option in this case, since it would encourage this kind of behavior.

To clearify, SC seem to by my understanding believe that supporting this message by staying in the clan is just as bad as posting it. I see their point and I agree with it, I would never stay in a clan that posted something I didn't agree with, the clan description shows what the clan is all about and the clan as a group stand by it.

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It's unfortunate that the posters in this thread would rather overlook the points in these replys and continue with their assumptions.

If individuals cannot be proven guilty, and the offense cannot be overlooked, the only course of action is to punish all involved, meaning the entire clan. If enough warnings were given out over a somewhat lengthy period of time, it is safe to assume that the majority of members where aware of the activities within the clan and were alright with it, shown by remaining a member, and are hence, guilty by association.

The only innocent members would be those who were new to the clan, or those who were very inactive and had no idea what was going on behind the scenes, so to speak.

The point is, nobody knows the reasoning behind SC's decision to ban the clan, and nobody knows the whole story except those involved, and I would rather stand behind SC's decision than the skewed excuses behind the guilty parties story.