Clan Wars, what's up and down? Such mess...

The way information regarding Clan Wars has been released is just poor and unprofessional.

Let me say, I have no disrespect towards any of the four "YouTubers". But why do we have to follow four different channels of some guys spending half of the video doing "300 PEKKA phun attacks" or showing off their own town? I don't understand why, Supercell didn't prepare an official "one truth video/post" with all the available information.

Although I guess the hype from four "YouTubers" beats clear information from a marketing perspective.

Looking forward to the update nonetheless, good job on that!


Am I the only one that feels this way?

Chill.

They are little extra sneak peeks. :) A lot more than we normally get.

Official announcements and guides will follow.

Same, I'm waiting for their official announcement explaining it all and the sneak peaks coz now nobody seems to know exactly what's going on.

I just don't have time to go analyzing 4 different YouTube channels lol.

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Originally Posted by Stitch

Chill.

They are little extra sneak peeks. :) A lot more than we normally get.

Official announcements and guides will follow.

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I like sneak peeks, but it's not really a "little extra sneak peeks" when you have to watch long youtube videos of (to me) random dudes. I personally prefer the way they handled last update.

I like watching 300 pekkas. Its a guide to help us understand it (and very good ones). If they just released the game we wouldn't have a clue how to use CW. The videos have helped a lot of people to understand whats going on with CW. If you don't like them then then that is just your opinion.

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Originally Posted by Godzilla86

Same, I'm waiting for their official announcement explaining it all and the sneak peaks coz now nobody seems to know exactly what's going on.

I just don't have time to go analyzing 4 different YouTube channels lol.

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Check Chief Pat's channel.

He's doing a video every day for the next 5 days explaining it.

I wouldn't expect an update for 1 week.

It's just part of the hype. Supercell will release a complete tutorial I'm sure.

I doubt it's over yet, i think each of the youtubers have been given at least 1 exclusive sneak peak each to release or it wouldn't really be fair, one guys showed clan wars, another showed the new clan castle, i think we have at least 2 more new things to come from the other 2.

As for how they've gone about releasing the info, i admire the way they've done it, you don't see bigger game companies like EA picking 4 of their fans/customers and giving them the grand tour and promoting their you tube channels & giving them exclusive info, super cell looks like a great fun place to work and as i keep saying their a business not a charity, the game is great and you don't need to buy gems to play, and before you ask no i'm not a gemmer. What ever they do some people are going to moan that they don't like it, so they can't win.

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Originally Posted by Crunkstation

I like watching 300 pekkas. Its a guide to help us understand it (and very good ones). If they just released the game we wouldn't have a clue how to use CW. The videos have helped a lot of people to understand whats going on with CW. If you don't like them then then that is just your opinion.

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I'm not saying they should release the game right off the bat.

I feel a single video/tutorial from Supercell would do the job. Alternatively, they could pick ONE youtuber to distribute the information - and not four. I'm sure videos help you understand what's going, but four different entries, is far from the optimal choice in terms of clear information.

And well, yes, it's my opinion. That's what the forums are for.

Who are the four youtubers? im guessing noteworthy, playclashofclans and who else?

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Originally Posted by slot

I'm not saying they should release the game right off the bat.

I feel a single video/tutorial from Supercell would do the job. Alternatively, they could pick ONE youtuber to distribute the information - and not four. I'm sure videos help you understand what's going, but four different entries, is far from the optimal choice in terms of clear information.

And well, yes, it's my opinion. That's what the forums are for.

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I agree, most of us didn't have the time to follow al these youtuber, it's frustating to see all these video hopefully that 1 of them can make a complete review, but they WONT because it's just marketing, rising expectation and making us staring at the forum/video all the time, means visibility for supercell, means money, and they need it for making continuos update at this game...
it's a 'price' we need to pay...

Highly agree with OT. I'm adult and don't need "hey ppl wutz up?", just bring decent facts from SC please. Or give me the update now so I can find out myself. ;)

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Originally Posted by Rydersilver

Who are the four youtubers? im guessing noteworthy, playclashofclans and who else?

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Originally Posted by Marika[Supercell]

Clan Wars is coming!!!




Subscribe:
Chief Pat: http://supr.cl/ChiefPat
Daddy: http://supr.cl/Daddy
SimonTay: http://supr.cl/SimonTay
GodSon: http://supr.cl/GodSon

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Marika gave us the 4 channel

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Originally Posted by n3r0s

Highly agree with OT. I'm adult and don't need "hey ppl wutz up?", just bring decent facts from SC please. Or give me the update now so I can find out myself. ;)

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Give them a break, their not professorial journalists or TV presenters, would you rather still be browsing the forums reading a load of "when's the next update" threads? super cell will obviously release a official set of sneak peaks you could always just wait for that and ignore the you tubers.

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Originally Posted by slot

The way information regarding Clan Wars has been released is just poor and unprofessional.

Let me say, I have no disrespect towards any of the four "YouTubers". But why do we have to follow four different channels of some guys spending half of the video doing "300 PEKKA phun attacks" or showing off their own town? I don't understand why, Supercell didn't prepare an official "one truth video/post" with all the available information.

Although I guess the hype from four "YouTubers" beats clear information from a marketing perspective.

Looking forward to the update nonetheless, good job on that!


Am I the only one that feels this way?

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Not at all....
Watch the video by SimonTay He gives every detail u need for knowing the clan wars
There will also be an in-game tutorial
Also read the FAQ for any other questions

I agree OP the way information is being relayed is just poor.

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Originally Posted by slot

I'm not saying they should release the game right off the bat.

I feel a single video/tutorial from Supercell would do the job. Alternatively, they could pick ONE youtuber to distribute the information - and not four. I'm sure videos help you understand what's going, but four different entries, is far from the optimal choice in terms of clear information.

And well, yes, it's my opinion. That's what the forums are for.

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Just watch one of the youtubers then, no one is forcing you to spend time watching all four of them. They are all covering roughly the same material in different orders. Having Four youtubers gives us options, many would rather have 'options' than just one option.

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Originally Posted by slot

The way information regarding Clan Wars has been released is just poor and unprofessional.

Let me say, I have no disrespect towards any of the four "YouTubers". But why do we have to follow four different channels of some guys spending half of the video doing "300 PEKKA phun attacks" or showing off their own town? I don't understand why, Supercell didn't prepare an official "one truth video/post" with all the available information.

Although I guess the hype from four "YouTubers" beats clear information from a marketing perspective.

Looking forward to the update nonetheless, good job on that!


Am I the only one that feels this way?

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in the past. Supercell would released pictures and wouldn't tell anyone the release date. We have videos with gameplay and also mentioned the release date. I don't see your logic, especially when 3 of the 4 youtubers already mentioned all the features in the update.

Hilarious. People still finding ways to moan about the release of something they've been moaning about not being released for years. The community on this forum goes from bad to worse. Please, stop being negative. This is exciting news.

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Originally Posted by GodsonCoC

in the past. Supercell would released pictures and wouldn't tell anyone the release date. We have videos with gameplay and also mentioned the release date. I don't see your logic, especially when 3 of the 4 youtubers already mentioned all the features in the update.

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You guys have done it well👍👍 Strong believer that 20% of people are completely nutz;)

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Originally Posted by DroogJanus

Hilarious. People still finding ways to moan about the release of something they've been moaning about not being released for years. The community on this forum goes from bad to worse. Please, stop being negative. This is exciting news.

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Hilarious? Forums are meant for feedback. Apparently a lot of people agree with me, that the way information has been distributed is not optimal. Some people might have time to create 2.5k forum posts (sorry Stitch :o) and watch every single youtube movie, others like myself don't.

At the end of the day, the decision is made based on a business/marketing perspective - and not to give out clear information. Which annoys me, but is understandable. Just giving my input.

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Originally Posted by slot

Hilarious? Forums are meant for feedback. Apparently a lot of people agree with me, that the way information has been distributed is not optimal. Some people might have time to create 2.5k forum posts (sorry Snitch :o) and watch every single youtube movie, others like myself don't.

At the end of the day, the decision is made based on a business/marketing perspective - and not to give out clear information. Which annoys me, but is understandable. Just giving my input.

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Why should they give clear information? If they gave you whole, detailed chunks then it wouldn't be a 'sneak peek'

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Originally Posted by slot

The way information regarding Clan Wars has been released is just poor and unprofessional.

Let me say, I have no disrespect towards any of the four "YouTubers". But why do we have to follow four different channels of some guys spending half of the video doing "300 PEKKA phun attacks" or showing off their own town? I don't understand why, Supercell didn't prepare an official "one truth video/post" with all the available information.

Although I guess the hype from four "YouTubers" beats clear information from a marketing perspective.

Looking forward to the update nonetheless, good job on that!


Am I the only one that feels this way?

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I totally agree... They should say give us dates... for the sneak peeks(they explain)... for the update... Would much organize to find the right information, and the lastest news... and no speculation would be raised...

From a marketing perspective trickling out info and keep people guessing is a great policy.

Some of you guys are real stick in the mud types. Get over yourselves and stop taking things far too seriously. This is just a game and this was just a fun way to release an exciting update with more community involvement.

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Originally Posted by GodsonCoC

in the past. Supercell would released pictures and wouldn't tell anyone the release date. We have videos with gameplay and also mentioned the release date. I don't see your logic, especially when 3 of the 4 youtubers already mentioned all the features in the update.

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Thats the point, a lot of us dont care about these youtubers and would just like an official video from supercell... Not a 16 yr old kid. Most of us dont spend all day on the forums or on youtube wacthing videos of coc... We couldnt careless about the 4 youtubers video... And personally, Daddy is the only one i can stand listening to

I think this was a nice idea at the beginning. But how they did it was wrong, going in every directions : april fools then easter eggs, releasing some informations here and there on forums, and YTers videos are ♥♥♥♥ : no offense to them, but they are really non professional videos, editing is ♥♥♥♥ and they are not even sure about what they say or can't say much about CW, better not to say anything then.

The idea was nice but the result is really bad.

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Originally Posted by slot

Hilarious? Forums are meant for feedback. Apparently a lot of people agree with me, that the way information has been distributed is not optimal. Some people might have time to create 2.5k forum posts (sorry Stitch :o) and watch every single youtube movie, others like myself don't.

At the end of the day, the decision is made based on a business/marketing perspective - and not to give out clear information. Which annoys me, but is understandable. Just giving my input.

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I see your point, and know where you are coming from. But let me throw this up a second, something Sneakydave has said recently ( today ):

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As I mentioned in the first post, dont even take the stuff in the youtube videos as gospel as the update has been tweaked since then, and subject to more tweaking, so the clan wars you see, will be different slightly.

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The YouTubers can only show what they know themselves, I highly doubt they were shown absolutely every detail, as SC would know that they may need to tweak certain aspects here and there. They were trying to think ahead, to make sure they didn't make too many "mistakes". I say well played.

As for having to watch all 4, you don't have to :) Simon Tays ( I believe ) CW video has been the most informative I have seen so far. That was yesterday though, haven't had a chance to check out their new videos today.

Hang on in there, the road is still a little bumpy whilst SC makes sure EVERYthing is ok to release. If they are changing things still, then no one knows exactly everything about CW :)

It's coming though!!!!

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Originally Posted by nikleplated357

Thats the point, a lot of us dont care about these youtubers and would just like an official video from supercell... Not a 16 yr old kid. Most of us dont spend all day on the forums or on youtube wacthing videos of coc... We couldnt careless about the 4 youtubers video... And personally, Daddy is the only one i can stand listening to

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Who's forcing you to watch them?

Just wait another week and find out for yourself then, with official videos or release notes.

By the way, you quoted one of the 4 YouTubers and were quite rude. A lot of other people have enjoyed their information and effort.

Its not mandatory though.

Pretty good stuff, I'll subscribe to that channel. Still not easy to understand it all though.

i have CC4, is it better to wait with upgrade it because it will be cheaper?

Can ANY of my loot be stolen in the war or can I have storages outside?

What if I after a war attack go back to my farm base for normal play?

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Originally Posted by DroogJanus

Hilarious. People still finding ways to moan about the release of something they've been moaning about not being released for years. The community on this forum goes from bad to worse. Please, stop being negative. This is exciting news.

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Of course. People always complain.
I've been saying this would happen...

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Originally Posted by Rydersilver

Who are the four youtubers? im guessing noteworthy, playclashofclans and who else?

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Yes, no offense to the YouTubers, but i'm not impressed. Not professional at all. I know why SC did it, but they really should have spent a little time and did a quality video themselves. We don't care about a hog singing in a promo. But at least we get some info....

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Originally Posted by BarbeNoire

I think this was a nice idea at the beginning. But how they did it was wrong, going in every directions : april fools then easter eggs, releasing some informations here and there on forums, and YTers videos are ♥♥♥♥ : no offense to them, but they are really non professional videos, editing is ♥♥♥♥ and they are not even sure about what they say or can't say much about CW, better not to say anything then.

The idea was nice but the result is really bad.

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Technically supercell did release a professoinal video advertising clan wars that im sure took many months to make. I think a large amount of the community would disagree in having no content over some with bad editing. Especially from the gamers that were playing since day one of its first released on the App Store. Watching YTbers is a bonus not a prerequisite to the update. Supercell is a company that must maintain its integrity. So I don't mind giving feedback to troll comments that hold no merit.

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Originally Posted by GodsonCoC

Technically supercell did release a professoinal video advertising clan wars that im sure took many months to make. I think a large amount of the community would disagree in having no content over some with bad editing. Especially from the gamers that were playing since day one of its first released on the App Store. Watching YTbers is a bonus not a prerequisite to the update. Supercell is a company that must maintain its integrity. So I don't mind giving feedback to troll comments that hold no merit.

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this is so true, watching th YT videos just was a bonus, wasn't necessary.

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Originally Posted by Stitch

Who's forcing you to watch them?

Just wait another week and find out for yourself then, with official videos or release notes.

By the way, you quoted one of the 4 YouTubers and were quite rude. A lot of other people have enjoyed their information and effort.

Its not mandatory though.

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Yeah bec YOU know there will be an official video of it. You dont know so dont mention it. Apparently, it seems to be mandatory to watch one of the four for this update to get any info for it...... So we obviously have to watch one. And i said, i could only stand to watch one of the four:..Doesnt mean I like the way supercell is giving out info. Don't get all butthurt son��

A 100% factual and informational video by any of the youtubers would have been the best thing possible. However, there are two problems with this.

First of all, it seems like a large amount of critical information about CW is not being given to the youtubers. This would include matchmaking formulas, exact rewards for a successful CW victory and things like that.

Secondly, it sounds as though CW is still being tweaked and changed. How can you really give detailed information on an unfinished product?

I think rather then provide inaccurate or outdated information, many of the youtubers decided to focus on "fun" videos rather then "informative" videos.

Disclaimer: i have only watched one video from each youtuber and i found Simon Tay's to be the most informative so far.

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Originally Posted by GodsonCoC

Technically supercell did release a professoinal video advertising clan wars that im sure took many months to make. I think a large amount of the community would disagree in having no content over some with bad editing. Especially from the gamers that were playing since day one of its first released on the App Store. Watching YTbers is a bonus not a prerequisite to the update. Supercell is a company that must maintain its integrity. So I don't mind giving feedback to troll comments that hold no merit.

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This is no troll comment, I'm just trying to be unbiased. My problem is not what they wanted to do, but what it has led to. This is a company who is about to launch an update -maybe its biggest since day one- and they have chosen to tease people with Youtubers. So far, everything's fine.

BUT :

- their official teaser is a hog and its rider singing on a piano driven by a barbarian. Really ?
- they have done all these April fools and Easter eggs stuffs, so people are all confused.
- their other official way of communication about CW is via Youtubers : is it normal that you have to watch four different channels to make yourself an idea which isn't accurate because videos are bad (yes I'm sorry, I'm not saying they are bad just for the pleasure, they are bad) and because Youtubers are talking about an update which has been tweaked since the last time they have played on it. Seriously ? So you're supposed to make yourself an opinion about this update with these videos, but you have to be careful because what you see is not what you will get ? What the hell ?

Of course this was mean well, but what has this led to ? Everything's confusing, everybody seems to have its own opinion. This is fun, whatever you want to, but not professional at all.

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Originally Posted by nikleplated357

Thats the point, a lot of us dont care about these youtubers and would just like an official video from supercell... Not a 16 yr old kid. Most of us dont spend all day on the forums or on youtube wacthing videos of coc... We couldnt careless about the 4 youtubers video... And personally, Daddy is the only one i can stand listening to

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Originally Posted by FireFox

I agree, most of us didn't have the time to follow al these youtuber, it's frustating to see all these video hopefully that 1 of them can make a complete review, but they WONT because it's just marketing, rising expectation and making us staring at the forum/video all the time, means visibility for supercell, means money, and they need it for making continuos update at this game...
it's a 'price' we need to pay...

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Originally Posted by slot

I'm not saying they should release the game right off the bat.

I feel a single video/tutorial from Supercell would do the job. Alternatively, they could pick ONE youtuber to distribute the information - and not four. I'm sure videos help you understand what's going, but four different entries, is far from the optimal choice in terms of clear information.

And well, yes, it's my opinion. That's what the forums are for.

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First of all this has to be one of the biggest updates which Clash of Clans has seen so far if not the biggest so it does make sense to want something different for a feature that has been requested and wanted by so many for so long. There has gone a huge amount of time and effort in developing Clan Wars. So yes I think it is safe to say that Supercell, we and the community are super duper excited about this update.

Now for all those saying they dont want to watch so many videos by so many different people and so on. Keep in mind they have put a lot of work and effort in this to create these and bring you the information. Reason why it was several YouTubers is to reach as many players as possible. Not all clashers subscribe to all the channels. Lots just follow only one or two. Every YouTuber has his own unique style and approach so some may fit you better then the other in how things are explained or presented. A certain aspect which may be clearly presented by YouTuber A might not be as clear to you if you watch YouTuber B and so on.

Yes information is presented in bits and pieces because there is an incredible amount of stuff to cover to explain it all. It is impossible to explain it all in one video. If it were we have full movie on our hands which could fill an entire evening easily. Some just want to select and watch aspects which interests them while others want to know everything at once.

The way this was presented might not be ideal for some however a lot also like it as more information about an update is shared then ever before. So is this way perfect ? Probably not. Can it ever be perfect for everyone ? Not likely. The material shot by the YouTubers and the information which has been shared has been changed and some of it is still subject to change. So yes it can be a bit confusing but we will get there in the end.

So in short if you don't have or don't want to spend the time finding out about the upcoming update. Relax, sit back, play the game and return when the release notes are here and you can actually go to war because the easiest way to find out is to actually play a war.

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Originally Posted by nikleplated357

Yeah bec YOU know there will be an official video of it. You dont know so dont mention it. Apparently, it seems to be mandatory to watch one of the four for this update to get any info for it...... So we obviously have to watch one. And i said, i could only stand to watch one of the four:..Doesnt mean I like the way supercell is giving out info. Don't get all butthurt son��

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Haha, you want info, they're giving info, but you cant stand to watch it. Too funny.

Just wait a week or get someone in your clan to watch and give you the gist.

Butthurt? lol, haven't heard someone say that in years! :)

Why is everyone expecting every detail to be released already? When have they ever released that before the actual update. I'm pumped we are getting videos about clan wars as opposed to just one picture that says clan wars, which would leave us wildly speculating.

The youtubers videos may not give us everything, but I know they have given me a good idea about what wars will be like.

Thank you youtubers, and lets just enjoy the build up to the biggest update ever!

Seeriously!? No one touched on the fact that this game was developed around the concept of a global COMMUNITY!!!! I understand that often times gamers are introverts, don't care much for social settings, and and also tend to have inflamed elitest attitudes (all of which are very evident in this thread btw). I'm not bashing anyone here, but it's something people need to get over if they play this game. SC is not your typical gaming company, they value their global community more than you can imagine. That's why they have done things this way. It's them trying to show all the hate mongers out there that complain about the way they operate, that they really are paying attention to their players and those that are VERY passionate and dedicated to their games.

Complaining about not having time to watch you tube videos!? REALLY!!??? But you have time to browse and search the forums, and you've obviously seen the videos because you're complaining about them, and then made a thread to complain about them, and are now having back and forth discussions to complain about them...... Hmmm sounds like this isn't really an issue of having time. And besides CoC is MASSIVELY time consuming, so perhaps it's time mangent that is the real issue here.

Give it time, you don't have to watch the you tube vids. SC WILL release official vids and sneak peeks, there WILL be in game turorials. Oh, and if the issue was really about the information regarding clan wars being difficult to understand, perhaps you could have checked the sticky in this sub forum titled "clan wars questions", or simply started your own thread, nicely stating your confusion, and people would have gladly answered your questions. There is already far too much negativity, bashing, flaming, blaming, complaining, arguing on these forums, lets all try not to add to the "mess" as OP called it.

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The way information regarding Clan Wars has been released is just poor and unprofessional.

Let me say, I have no disrespect towards any of the four "YouTubers". But why do we have to follow four different channels of some guys spending half of the video doing "300 PEKKA phun attacks" or showing off their own town? I don't understand why, Supercell didn't prepare an official "one truth video/post" with all the available information.

Although I guess the hype from four "YouTubers" beats clear information from a marketing perspective.

Looking forward to the update nonetheless, good job on that!


Am I the only one that feels this way?

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You are right in many regards, but hearing reviews from fellow experienced clashers is nice in its own right. These 4 have different perspectives and personalities, I watch all 4, some for the first time ever, during this time. I have found not all videos are great, but collectively I am having a good experience.

simon tay usually has the most professional presentation out of those 4 youtubers....if u need to pick one alone to follow then i'd suggest you choose him

^ and ^^ Exactly.

The update hasn't even been released YET there are bits being unveiled. Still complain? You can't be serious.

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Originally Posted by BarbeNoire

This is no troll comment, I'm just trying to be unbiased. My problem is not what they wanted to do, but what it has led to. This is a company who is about to launch an update -maybe its biggest since day one- and they have chosen to tease people with Youtubers. So far, everything's fine.

BUT :

- their official teaser is a hog and its rider singing on a piano driven by a barbarian. Really ?
- they have done all these April fools and Easter eggs stuffs, so people are all confused.
- their other official way of communication about CW is via Youtubers : is it normal that you have to watch four different channels to make yourself an idea which isn't accurate because videos are bad (yes I'm sorry, I'm not saying they are bad just for the pleasure, they are bad) and because Youtubers are talking about an update which has been tweaked since the last time they have played on it. Seriously ? So you're supposed to make yourself an opinion about this update with these videos, but you have to be careful because what you see is not what you will get ? What the hell ?

Of course this was mean well, but what has this led to ? Everything's confusing, everybody seems to have its own opinion. This is fun, whatever you want to, but not professional at all.

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To my knowledge everything I have played has remained the same as I've been also double checking with the dev team about the stats. However it is likely some minor changes may occurred if supercell decides to alter anything. Sneaky Dave made a good point to wait until the official release which is a good idea, my apologies if u weren't trolling. But I can say at the minimum, clan wars will defiantly be well accepted by the community as a whole and open more possibilities of engagement between clans. =]

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Originally Posted by GodsonCoC

To my knowledge everything I have played has remained the same as I've been also double checking with the dev team about the stats. However it is likely some minor changes may occurred if supercell decides to alter anything. Sneaky Dave made a good point to wait until the official release which is a good idea, my apologies if u weren't trolling. But I can say at the minimum, clan wars will defiantly be well accepted by the community as a whole and open more possibilities of engagement between clans. =]

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You don't have to apologize, it's rather me, i don't want to seem rude. You're right in what you said above, and I don't want to bash Supercell or Youtubers, I just feel like they could have avoided all this confusing stuffs. To make it short, I would have appreciated that SC told us the guidelines of this update, and you Youtubers go deeper with your videos. Instead, it's like they did this video, told us CW is coming and they are like : "go watch these 4 channels and make your own way about CW". This is what's confusing in my opinion.

Anyway, as some people said, Simon Tay's yesterday video was nice, and I liked your video about CW loot and CC. Enough said in a short time, let's give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar.

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Originally Posted by slot

The way information regarding Clan Wars has been released is just poor and unprofessional.

Let me say, I have no disrespect towards any of the four "YouTubers". But why do we have to follow four different channels of some guys spending half of the video doing "300 PEKKA phun attacks" or showing off their own town? I don't understand why, Supercell didn't prepare an official "one truth video/post" with all the available information.

Although I guess the hype from four "YouTubers" beats clear information from a marketing perspective.

Looking forward to the update nonetheless, good job on that!


Am I the only one that feels this way?

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Cant say I disagree...

The old method of sneak peek at a generally consistent time of the day, each day up until the update worked fine...these videos, which I have not watched, should be an added extra for the people that have time to do so...but there should also be a SC owned area that pulls ALL the facts together so the information is not so fragmented.

Good job to the Youtubers, no disrespect to them...it is very time consuming making videos so they deserve props...but some of us have limited time and its much easier to look at a sneak peek thread with new info at the top than it is to watch a load of videos...imo...

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Originally Posted by SmokeyQuartz

Seeriously!? No one touched on the fact that this game was developed around the concept of a global COMMUNITY!!!! I understand that often times gamers are introverts, don't care much for social settings, and and also tend to have inflamed elitest attitudes (all of which are very evident in this thread btw). I'm not bashing anyone here, but it's something people need to get over if they play this game. SC is not your typical gaming company, they value their global community more than you can imagine. That's why they have done things this way. It's them trying to show all the hate mongers out there that complain about the way they operate, that they really are paying attention to their players and those that are VERY passionate and dedicated to their games.

Complaining about not having time to watch you tube videos!? REALLY!!??? But you have time to browse and search the forums, and you've obviously seen the videos because you're complaining about them, and then made a thread to complain about them, and are now having back and forth discussions to complain about them...... Hmmm sounds like this isn't really an issue of having time. And besides CoC is MASSIVELY time consuming, so perhaps it's time mangent that is the real issue here.

Give it time, you don't have to watch the you tube vids. SC WILL release official vids and sneak peeks, there WILL be in game turorials. Oh, and if the issue was really about the information regarding clan wars being difficult to understand, perhaps you could have checked the sticky in this sub forum titled "clan wars questions", or simply started your own thread, nicely stating your confusion, and people would have gladly answered your questions. There is already far too much negativity, bashing, flaming, blaming, complaining, arguing on these forums, lets all try not to add to the "mess" as OP called it.

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100% Agree, I like CoC and very optimist to its future because the SUPERCELL is trying hard to reach the players and listen to what they want, I think this complain is because people not patience enough to wait.

So please be patience, the update will come along with its official FAQ. don't watch youtube if you don't want to, no one will care if you watch or not.

Good Job supercell for the effort. Thank you, keep up the good work and keep listen to the players ideas.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyQuartz

Seeriously!? No one touched on the fact that this game was developed around the concept of a global COMMUNITY!!!! I understand that often times gamers are introverts, don't care much for social settings, and and also tend to have inflamed elitest attitudes (all of which are very evident in this thread btw). I'm not bashing anyone here, but it's something people need to get over if they play this game. SC is not your typical gaming company, they value their global community more than you can imagine. That's why they have done things this way. It's them trying to show all the hate mongers out there that complain about the way they operate, that they really are paying attention to their players and those that are VERY passionate and dedicated to their games.

Complaining about not having time to watch you tube videos!? REALLY!!??? But you have time to browse and search the forums, and you've obviously seen the videos because you're complaining about them, and then made a thread to complain about them, and are now having back and forth discussions to complain about them...... Hmmm sounds like this isn't really an issue of having time. And besides CoC is MASSIVELY time consuming, so perhaps it's time mangent that is the real issue here.

Give it time, you don't have to watch the you tube vids. SC WILL release official vids and sneak peeks, there WILL be in game turorials. Oh, and if the issue was really about the information regarding clan wars being difficult to understand, perhaps you could have checked the sticky in this sub forum titled "clan wars questions", or simply started your own thread, nicely stating your confusion, and people would have gladly answered your questions. There is already far too much negativity, bashing, flaming, blaming, complaining, arguing on these forums, lets all try not to add to the "mess" as OP called it.

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Its easier to look on the facebook page via smartphone while at work / school one page...sneak peak features very clear...and the forum detail is easy to read... not so easy to watch a 5 min video ... or 4...or 8...etc

edit - oh, i thought these vids was how SC were announcing things...so sneak peeks have NOT started??

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Originally Posted by BarbeNoire

This is no troll comment, I'm just trying to be unbiased. My problem is not what they wanted to do, but what it has led to. This is a company who is about to launch an update -maybe its biggest since day one- and they have chosen to tease people with Youtubers. So far, everything's fine.

BUT :

- their official teaser is a hog and its rider singing on a piano driven by a barbarian. Really ?
- they have done all these April fools and Easter eggs stuffs, so people are all confused.
- their other official way of communication about CW is via Youtubers : is it normal that you have to watch four different channels to make yourself an idea which isn't accurate because videos are bad (yes I'm sorry, I'm not saying they are bad just for the pleasure, they are bad) and because Youtubers are talking about an update which has been tweaked since the last time they have played on it. Seriously ? So you're supposed to make yourself an opinion about this update with these videos, but you have to be careful because what you see is not what you will get ? What the hell ?

Of course this was mean well, but what has this led to ? Everything's confusing, everybody seems to have its own opinion. This is fun, whatever you want to, but not professional at all.

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Wow.

Lighten up, you are taking this WAY too seriously.

There are almost no words for how over the top and ridiculous your posts are becoming.

I have a pretty solid grasp on clan wars from the youtube videos, they were fun, sometimes cheeky, just a little bit of flavor. Sure there are some extra details to dig into either with release notes or with additional videos. I will also add that in some ways the videos go into more depth than a well polished marketing piece because you actually get into more of the nuts and bolts of the gameplay with the youtubers.

Very unprofessional and very effective as well. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by MattCoC

Wow.

Lighten up, you are taking this WAY too seriously.

There are almost no words for how over the top and ridiculous your posts are becoming.

I have a pretty solid grasp on clan wars from the youtube videos, they were fun, sometimes cheeky, just a little bit of flavor. Sure there are some extra details to dig into either with release notes or with additional videos. I will also add that in some ways the videos go into more depth than a well polished marketing piece because you actually get into more of the nuts and bolts of the gameplay with the youtubers.

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Of course, that's why you have a 30 pages sticky thread where Sneaky Dave has to answer questions asked several times. But that's just extra details.

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Originally Posted by BarbeNoire

Of course, that's why you have a 30 pages sticky thread where Sneaky Dave has to answer questions asked several times. But that's just extra details.

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:rolleyes::rolleyes:
There would be a 30 page sticky Q&A thread with or without the youtube videos.

Keep this in perspective - with the amount of developer hours invested into clan wars it could be a brand new standalone game. Of course there are going to be lots of questions - it is very complex - part of what makes it so special and exciting.

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Originally Posted by BarbeNoire

Of course, that's why you have a 30 pages sticky thread where Sneaky Dave has to answer questions asked several times. But that's just extra details.

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That is also my gripe with the way things are released. I'm sure the idea was to create some buzz around CW release, but with all the questions and confusion, it takes away from this highly anticipated update. It also gives the impression that SC isn't on top of everything.

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Originally Posted by MattCoC

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
There would be a 30 page sticky Q&A thread with or without the youtube videos.

Keep this in perspective - with the amount of developer hours invested into clan wars it could be a brand new standalone game. Of course there are going to be lots of questions - it is very complex - part of what makes it so special and exciting.

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I agree with you, maybe you just didn't understand what I've said, i don't know. I do believe this could be another game itself, and i think this update will be great, that's not my point here, it's just that SC didn't seem to really "control" this update infos, and that's what seemed unprofessional to me as stated by the OP.

When it's released, there will be an official thread that explains all of the details...just like every other update. Everything up to this point is just hyping it up and even creating confusion to get people talking about it. Basic marketing.

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Originally Posted by Stitch

Haha, you want info, they're giving info, but you cant stand to watch it. Too funny.

Just wait a week or get someone in your clan to watch and give you the gist.

Butthurt? lol, haven't heard someone say that in years! :)

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Again you fail to see the point! Some of us dont want to watch a 10 min video or have the time to sit and watch it... Some of us dont feel like hearing people on a video drooling over themselves about a game.. We rather read about it and get the info straight from supercell bec thats what we come to the forums for . NOT a youtuber.. Understand now?

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Originally Posted by nikleplated357

Again you fail to see the point! Some of us dont want to watch a 10 min video or have the time to sit and watch it... Some of us dont feel like hearing people on a video drooling over themselves about a game.. We rather read about it and get the info straight from supercell bec thats what we come to the forums for . NOT a youtuber.. Understand now?

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This is my problem with it as well, really not into watching several Youtube videos that glance over it and feed them with more subscribers and $$ at the end of the day.

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Originally Posted by Play3r1

When it's released, there will be an official thread that explains all of the details...just like every other update. Everything up to this point is just hyping it up and even creating confusion to get people talking about it. Basic marketing.

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200 million percent the truth!!

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Originally Posted by nikleplated357

Again you fail to see the point! Some of us dont want to watch a 10 min video or have the time to sit and watch it... Some of us dont feel like hearing people on a video drooling over themselves about a game.. We rather read about it and get the info straight from supercell bec thats what we come to the forums for . NOT a youtuber.. Understand now?

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Then don't watch..

Opinions and free so I respect yours guys, but at the same time MY opinion is that these complaints are hilariously ridiculous.

If you can't handle cryptical/ambiguous information on an upcoming update you should be doing something else until the clan wars are here. If you can't do something else to occupy yourself in the meantime, you are a sad person, period.

Clan wars is a lot of information to wrap our heads around, and getting the information from the youtubers works for me just as well as from SC. They seem to be covering the basics pretty well, and have a better perspective to discuss it than the developers and others who have seen it every day and know it already.

For the vast majority of clashers who only see the final information that is released in the game it's going to be difficult to figure out all at once, no matter how great the tutorial is, so the early release of information and video give us a huge advantage when matched up with most of the clans out there.

Not saying I wouldn't change some of the way SC is releasing this, but it does seeming to be working pretty well and gathers more eyeballs and attention then a release solely from the company. I could easily see them having only released that hog cartoon and letting us stew for a week...:eek:

Hi,

Speaking as a Youtuber here not a Mod.

I guess things can always be done better and it is a learning process, but I personally thought inviting well known members of the community in to help launch something this big was a good idea. We speak for ourselves, we are certainly non corporate and we all have a different perspective on things. We wanted to give a player feel to what is coming really.

At the end of the day it is what it is, SC need to make changes when they see fit to the game pre-release which means some of what we saw might not be 100% accurate in the end, we make the occasional error in what we said as well (I know i did in one of my vids). But MOST of what we said in the videos is absolutely correct and shouldn't be disregarded.

I feel that this is a pretty new way of doing these releases and like anything new it's un-expected and not perfect.

I wanted to thank Supercell as well for allowing us into their workplace, giving us the chance to learn what goes on inside their awesome company and to a large extent to share that with the rest of the community.

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Originally Posted by Daddy

Hi,

Speaking as a Youtuber here not a Mod.

I guess things can always be done better and it is a learning process, but I personally thought inviting well known members of the community in to help launch something this big was a good idea. We speak for ourselves, we are certainly non corporate and we all have a different perspective on things. We wanted to give a player feel to what is coming really.

At the end of the day it is what it is, SC need to make changes when they see fit to the game pre-release which means some of what we saw might not be 100% accurate in the end, we make the occasional error in what we said as well (I know i did in one of my vids). But MOST of what we said in the videos is absolutely correct and shouldn't be disregarded.

I feel that this is a pretty new way of doing these releases and like anything new it's un-expected and not perfect.

I wanted to thank Supercell as well for allowing us into their workplace, giving us the chance to learn what goes on inside their awesome company and to a large extent to share that with the rest of the community.

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I feel like this post is unnecessarily apologetic. You spend your personal time to provide content to the masses at no charge, and should be commended as such.

Choose your battles folks, you can either:
a) get no content
b) get sneak peaks from fellow players, which may not be 100% the final product.

I choose b).

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Originally Posted by nikleplated357

Again you fail to see the point! Some of us dont want to watch a 10 min video or have the time to sit and watch it... Some of us dont feel like hearing people on a video drooling over themselves about a game.. We rather read about it and get the info straight from supercell bec thats what we come to the forums for . NOT a youtuber.. Understand now?

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Nah, i get you. What I'm trying to say is. There is still a week before the update (heard that in one of the vids). You will get the information in a format you're asking but at the appropriate time. I personally wouldn't expect this until launch though. Same as Supercell do on every update as the fine points are subject to change i guess.

Just try to think of these videos as independent sneak peeks from actual players of the game. Not the maker. In a way it's refreshing to hear extra information from a practical point of view.

Trust me, the forum will be the place for the information you want but we have to wait until the final production version is released. As they've said in the videos the screens and values are all still changing.

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Originally Posted by BRockCoC

I feel like this post is unnecessarily apologetic. You spend your personal time to provide content to the masses at no charge, and should be commended as such.

Choose your battles folks, you can either:
a) get no content
b) get sneak peaks from fellow players, which may not be 100% the final product.

I choose b).

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I agree, and this isn't a tough choice. Also, being too "busy" to watch a video is hilarious. If that is even remotely true, then don't watch it. Go about your busy life, and before you know it clan wars will be released. Time flies when you are busy after all.

For the record, I've never watched any of the 4 youtubers until this week. It isn't my preferred medium to receive info either. But I thought it was amazing that a company like SC invited them over and set all of this up. Plus, as everyone else said, official sneak peaks are coming soon.

I rather like the way supercell did all this. It was a new way of doing it rather than lots of sneak peeks... This way, we can get all of our questions answered before the very complex war starts. It was kind of like sending in a news crew. But the best part is that we get it from four points of view. I cant help but scour the youtube channels waiting for the next vids from these guys. Speaking of which, Godson and Daddy... get off the forums and get back to it. ;)

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Originally Posted by Daddy

Hi,

Speaking as a Youtuber here not a Mod.

I guess things can always be done better and it is a learning process, but I personally thought inviting well known members of the community in to help launch something this big was a good idea. We speak for ourselves, we are certainly non corporate and we all have a different perspective on things. We wanted to give a player feel to what is coming really.

At the end of the day it is what it is, SC need to make changes when they see fit to the game pre-release which means some of what we saw might not be 100% accurate in the end, we make the occasional error in what we said as well (I know i did in one of my vids). But MOST of what we said in the videos is absolutely correct and shouldn't be disregarded.

I feel that this is a pretty new way of doing these releases and like anything new it's un-expected and not perfect.

I wanted to thank Supercell as well for allowing us into their workplace, giving us the chance to learn what goes on inside their awesome company and to a large extent to share that with the rest of the community.

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Not only that, but having players go out and meet SC and shed light to the community that think they don't care about our ideas and requests should be valuable info to anyone. I'm also glad SC choose this route.

I think the release of videos and the little trickle of clues from the Helsinki visit was very good.

If we are honest then we knew that the visit from the youtube gang could only have ever meant clan wars.

We have been a little bit spoilt in how much we have been able to see pre-update - videos ranging from gameplay to matchmaking explainers... whether you choose to watch these or not is completely your choice.

but like a spoiled child, more is always wanted... we need to remember that this great feature that we requested is upon us and we should be excited!!

...give them an inch and they will take a mile... let's just have our inch for now.

NEXT WEEK WE HAVE CLAN WARS!!!

:)

I don't see the problem. There'll still be sneak peek, if you don't wanna spend 10 minutes of your precious life on youtube, then ignore them, you'll get your info much later than others and that's it. Either way, information will still be delivered to you before Clan wars officially hits.

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Originally Posted by n3r0s

Highly agree with OT. I'm adult and don't need "hey ppl wutz up?", just bring decent facts from SC please. Or give me the update now so I can find out myself. ;)

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I agree with this.

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Originally Posted by JtB

I agree with this.

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The sneak peek will come before the update as always. Youtube is not the only source for this.

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Originally Posted by rjdofu

The sneak peek will come before the update as always. Youtube is not the only source for this.

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There wont be the usual sneak peeks...

http://forum.supercell.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Marika[Supercell] http://forum.supercell.net/images/bu...post-right.png
Instead of regular Sneak Peeks, we'll focus on covering every aspect of Clan Wars. Our amazing YouTubers Daddy, SimonTay, Chief Pat and Godson have prepared Clan Wars videos for you guys, and in addition to those, we'll post news every day So get ready, enjoy the ride and prepare for Clan Wars!

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Originally Posted by T0M

There wont be the usual sneak peeks...

http://forum.supercell.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Marika[Supercell] http://forum.supercell.net/images/bu...post-right.png
Instead of regular Sneak Peeks, we'll focus on covering every aspect of Clan Wars. Our amazing YouTubers Daddy, SimonTay, Chief Pat and Godson have prepared Clan Wars videos for you guys, and in addition to those, we'll post news every day So get ready, enjoy the ride and prepare for Clan Wars!

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Aw dang! really? That blows.
But hey, didn't she just say "we'll post news everyday"?

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Originally Posted by T0M

There wont be the usual sneak peeks...

http://forum.supercell.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Marika[Supercell] http://forum.supercell.net/images/bu...post-right.png
Instead of regular Sneak Peeks, we'll focus on covering every aspect of Clan Wars. Our amazing YouTubers Daddy, SimonTay, Chief Pat and Godson have prepared Clan Wars videos for you guys, and in addition to those, we'll post news every day So get ready, enjoy the ride and prepare for Clan Wars!

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So we will get video sneak peaks from the YouTubers and sneak peaks from supercell themselves!

I cannot be bothered to subscribe to and sift through all the posts and Youtube channels/videos and social media accounts. Ain't nobody got time for that. It just creates more confusion.

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Originally Posted by escoangel

I cannot be bothered to subscribe to and sift through all the posts and Youtube channels/videos and social media accounts. Ain't nobody got time for that. It just creates more confusion.

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Then don't. Simple as that. I personally like this as it gives insights from actual players. Thank you Daddy, Joseph, Patrick and Simon :)

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Originally Posted by escoangel

I cannot be bothered to subscribe to and sift through all the posts and Youtube channels/videos and social media accounts. Ain't nobody got time for that. It just creates more confusion.

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That is why they say subscribe. The Youtubers, when they went over want subscribers. If you subscribe you can see all new uploads on one page.

I go there and then I see the four new videos on one page.

I 100% agree with you OP.

Some people have a life, some of us have to work, some of us have to study, and we don't have the time to waste watching a lot of really long videos from 4 different youtubers, that 90% of the time of the video they talk about irrelevant stuff and just a little about Clan Wars...

But don't expect to get support from the people here!

The majority (not everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!) of the people in the forums are kids that have all the time in the world (they'll understand when the grow up) or adults with no jobs or studies, that have lots of free time to watch all the youtube videos they want...


Sadly, we won't get the usual sneak peeks or official info, so we'll have to wait until the update is released...

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Originally Posted by Sneakydave

Hey guys,
Just wanted to warn you that there is an awful lot of misconceptions and false information floating around about clan wars and details about it. Please take anything you read or even watch on youtube with a pinch of salt until the FAQ gets released in the coming days.

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And these are the consequences of this new "successful and fun" way to show sneak peeks!