Questions about Clan Wars

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Originally Posted by slikk

My plan would be to cook the proper army for war while I plan to hold a shield for the day, and attack at my leisure. It is nice they give us 24 hours to make 2 attacks and are not locked into a specific attack schedule.

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If it's a full 24 hours I can probably do one GoWiWi and one Loonion...I guess....

If you knock out your heroes in Clan Wars are they knocked out in the game? Mine take 3 hours to wake up....

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

Not worth cooking a 90-120 minute army and since we're going for most percentage/stars to be the best I can for my clan I'd have to use GoWiWi. Huge time sink...and since I'm the strongest in my clan I will be forced to participate in EVERY SINGLE Clan War.

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If you were to step out of the clan for a few moments while you had a co-leader find a match your base wouldn't count towards the war from my understanding. Once the bases being used for the war are
determined you could rejoin the clan. Idk if this process would take place the moment you find a match, or at the conclusion of day 1. Either way, leaving the clan for 2 minutes would solve your issue.


Also on a side note, if you're the most progressed in your clan, then the other clan won't have a ton of players at your level, as the participating players average would drop your base down a bit if that makes sense.

I don't see why the 3 star system needs to remain in place for Clan Wars.

Offering up more stars will provide a more wide array of possible outcomes.

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Originally Posted by Pete82

I might not have explained it well. I know how current clans are ranked. I am saying for the purposes of clan wars only, clans are matched based on overall strength (yet to be determined, based on walls, heroes, defenses, etc). Within each clan, members are ranked based on trophies. That is the part I don't like. If you already are putting in separate programming to evaluate walls, heroes, defense, etc, why not use that to rank each individual clan member as you rank the clan itself? Experience level would never factor in for any system.

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The reason I think is when that super duper strong clan member of yours ranking #1 in your clan in terms of his/her base strength wont be available during the clan war, (and leader/coleader doesnt have the balls to kick him/her out) then he/she could opt out of the war by shedding off trophies and placing himself at the bottom rank of the clan.

So its a nifty idea SC thought of that trophies would determine which clan member get to be involved in the clan war, because members could adjust their trophy count/leagues. Imagine if that super-duper-strong-clan-member-of-yours-ranking #1-in-your-clan-in-terms-of-his/her-base-strength would not be available at the time of clan war and SC based it on overall strength to determine warring members then your sure to lose that war because coordination is really important in winning a war.

Sorry to be off topic, but now we can have Mano e Mano's and Clano e Clano's(I think that's what they were called.)

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Originally Posted by Anarchos

If you were to step out of the clan for a few moments while you had a co-leader find a match your base wouldn't count towards the war from my understanding. Once the bases being used for the war are
determined you could rejoin the clan. Idk if this process would take place the moment you find a match, or at the conclusion of day 1. Either way, leaving the clan for 2 minutes would solve your issue.


Also on a side note, if you're the most progressed in your clan, then the other clan won't have a ton of players at your level, as the participating players average would drop your base down a bit if that makes sense.

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It does...but it seems like a real hassle if I don't want to do a Clan Wars that particular day(I'll do some), to have to leave my clan when they start it.

Also as has been said before it would be great if we could save a Clan Wars design so we don't have to change our base around for the war, it would just automatically use that design.

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

If it's a full 24 hours I can probably do one GoWiWi and one Loonion...I guess....

If you knock out your heroes in Clan Wars are they knocked out in the game? Mine take 3 hours to wake up....

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Pretty sure they said everything in the process of upgrading/recovering would be reset.

Guessing any member can donate as much as they want but I'm not sure. And do the donations from the clan war count towards the normal amount if donations you already have? In the videos it didn't show any xp so I'm guessing no.

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Originally Posted by creamofpayne

Further thought:

If I'm understanding it right, the optimal clan makeup would be 30 TH 1 players and 20 elite gemmers (talking in extremes for clarity), with the 30 TH 1 players all being above the 20 TH 10s in trophy count before the Clan Leader clicks the Matchmaking button.

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In the videos different times it showed the reward for winning a clan war varied a lot. In one video I saw like 480k 480k 5k, and in another video I saw 68k. I could be wrong but I'm going to assume the reward is based off the toughness factor of the clans involved. Meaning of your clan has a bunch of TH2s and that's your average, you might win the war when it comes to stars but it'll be useless due to no loot.

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Originally Posted by Uskrums

Is there a donation limit for each clan member? Or can one member who has maxed troops donate to all his clan members?

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My last comment was in replay to you, sorry i forgot to quote it.

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

It does...but it seems like a real hassle if I don't want to do a Clan Wars that particular day(I'll do some), to have to leave my clan when they start it.

Also as has been said before it would be great if we could save a Clan Wars design so we don't have to change our base around for the war, it would just automatically use that design.

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Yeah, would be a hassle, but it would be the best way (that I know of) to get around the issue of not wanting to participate.


And yeah, I too wish they had an option to save layouts. Super Steve said he wants it as well but currently has no timetable for when it will arrive.

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Originally Posted by Uskrums

Pretty sure they said everything in the process of upgrading/recovering would be reset.

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Ok, I only saw the upgrading part of that then.

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Originally Posted by Ryan2626

My last comment was in replay to you, sorry i forgot to quote it.

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No worries, thanks! Yeah the importance of having some max troop clan members will come into play. I know we don't lose any loot, but I am assuming we have to pay for the troops in CW?

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Originally Posted by Uskrums

No worries, thanks! Yeah the importance of having some max troop clan members will come into play. I know we don't lose any loot, but I am assuming we have to pay for the troops in CW?

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Yes you do have to pay

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

If you knock out your heroes in Clan Wars are they knocked out in the game? Mine take 3 hours to wake up....

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I believe so, just as your troops would be expended and your deployed cc would need refilling.

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It has been mentioned that a win in Clan Wars will go towards your clan's win counter. Is there any point to said counter? Will there be a leaderboard in the future? Will we receive "points" equivalent to our win counter that the clan can then spend on clan upgrades?

Also, what percentage bonus/penalty do we receive for winning/losing a war?

In Chief Pat's 2nd video, it is unclear whether we change our normal base(which the game then takes a picture of) or if our base is copied over at the start of Preparation Day, and we change the copy. Which method is used?

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Originally Posted by Uskrums

No worries, thanks! Yeah the importance of having some max troop clan members will come into play. I know we don't lose any loot, but I am assuming we have to pay for the troops in CW?

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But I'm not sure if the donations from the clan war count to you'r amount donated/received in the normal season?

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Originally Posted by slikk

I believe so, just as your troops would be expended and your deployed cc would need refilling.

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I'm sure i heard that they will not be knocked out but I'm not sure.

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Originally Posted by slikk

I believe so, just as your troops would be expended and your deployed cc would need refilling.

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I'm not sure actually.

1. Chief pats video, along with Steves explanation says that your CC in CW is different than your CC out of CW, meaning you can have defense troops in your CW CC while having farm troops in your real CC.

2. Your heros and defenses that are being upgraded in your normal base will be functioning normally in the CW base.


those things lean towards everything being seperate, including heros sleep times. The only thing detracting that idea is that you have to build troops in your normal base to use in CW.

Are there spells in the clan wars?

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Originally Posted by Anarchos

Yeah, would be a hassle, but it would be the best way (that I know of) to get around the issue of not wanting to participate.


And yeah, I too wish they had an option to save layouts. Super Steve said he wants it as well but currently has no timetable for when it will arrive.

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The problem with the save base for me is placing decorations....for someone who owns every decoration (like me) it will be a major pain to redesign the base every single time:rolleyes: I will most likely leave my clan like Jet will. Leave when it starts and come back when it has begun so that I am excluded:cool:

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Originally Posted by Sneakydave

however you normally do, clan wars will not affect this, except more available loot generated over time, and some loot in opponents clan castle.

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Anybody else happy?

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Originally Posted by GameloverHD

The problem with the save base for me is placing decorations....for someone who owns every decoration (like me) it will be a major pain to redesign the base every single time:rolleyes: I will most likely leave my clan like Jet will. Leave when it starts and come back when it has begun so that I am excluded:cool:

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You could always sell those useless dingoes :-0

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Originally Posted by Anarchos

I'm not sure actually.

1. Chief pats video, along with Steves explanation says that your CC in CW is different than your CC out of CW, meaning you can have defense troops in your CW CC while having farm troops in your real CC.

2. Your heros and defenses that are being upgraded in your normal base will be functioning normally in the CW base.


those things lean towards everything being seperate, including heros sleep times. The only thing detracting that idea is that you have to build troops in your normal base to use in CW.

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1. That is true of the cc in your war base. The cc in your typical clashing base is where your troops will come from when attacking tho, as I understand.

2. Your heroes will be alive and well (as will your war cc troops) for all defenses in the clan war. Not so for attacking in the war (see Daddy's video of his attack vs Simon Tay ... he forgot to bring his heroes or clan castle troops with him).

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Originally Posted by Anarchos

You could always sell those useless dingoes :-0

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NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: I love how they look on my base. The only problem I have is the redesign but I'll live with it:cool:

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Originally Posted by Anarchos

I'm not sure actually.

1. Chief pats video, along with Steves explanation says that your CC in CW is different than your CC out of CW, meaning you can have defense troops in your CW CC while having farm troops in your real CC.

2. Your heros and defenses that are being upgraded in your normal base will be functioning normally in the CW base.


those things lean towards everything being seperate, including heros sleep times. The only thing detracting that idea is that you have to build troops in your normal base to use in CW.

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From what I understand, in your war base, the CC troops and Heroes will be back if they are knocked down.
However, if your heroes are knocked down when you attack your enemy, they will have to sleep. Your cc troops need to be refilled and you have to train your troops again.. In other words, when you are attacking your enemy in clan war, it is exactly the same as when you are raiding normally :)

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Originally Posted by Ryan2626

Are there spells in the clan wars?

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Oh yeah, without spells you couldn't even one star some maxed townhall 10 bases so Clan Wars between them would get nowhere fast.

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Originally Posted by SuperSteve[Supercell]

Agreed, a huge pita. We hope to work out village edit mode saving in the near future, though we cannot promise that for the next update yet. We realize it makes tons of sense now and would have preferred to have it in before this came out, just wasn't in the cards. Your war base will not persist to the following clan war, so for now, you will have to reconfigure it again if you make changes after you save the war layout.

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this is so stupid. Feels like Supercell employees arent allowed to clash, otherwise they'd figure out this obvious flaw.

Its gonna be a nightmare for farmers, it will also hit cup chasers, since even cup chasers more or less protect their resources, which aren't affected during war, so better strategy will be to use storages as shields without any protection.

Players would have to calculate perfect timing to set the base minutes before a war starts and to fix it back right after. What a hassle. Instead of this bizarre complex snapshotting mechanic you should just let us have two separate bases, one normal, one for clan wars.

Guys, consider delaying it for one more week to fix this ridiculous flaw. Just let us have a second permanent base for wars. We can survive one more week without CW (just don't forget to prolong the 1 gem boost :)

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

Not worth cooking a 90-120 minute army and since we're going for most percentage/stars to be the best I can for my clan I'd have to use GoWiWi. Huge time sink...and since I'm the strongest in my clan I will be forced to participate in EVERY SINGLE Clan War.

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Just cook the army two times while you're on a shield.... Attacking in the clan war doesn't affect your shield....

Think about the positives - with clan wars you are farming potentially big additional loot while you're on a shield. Hard to see this as a negative in my mind.

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Originally Posted by elder

this is so stupid.

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Don't like it, don't engage right? They did say they were hoping to have it implemented for this update, and that they will continue to work on it. Just think about how bad it would be without village edit mode!

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Originally Posted by Anarchos

In the videos different times it showed the reward for winning a clan war varied a lot. In one video I saw like 480k 480k 5k, and in another video I saw 68k. I could be wrong but I'm going to assume the reward is based off the toughness factor of the clans involved. Meaning of your clan has a bunch of TH2s and that's your average, you might win the war when it comes to stars but it'll be useless due to no loot.

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Agreed it'd not be worth it for the loot.

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Originally Posted by slikk

Don't like it, don't engage right? They did say they were hoping to have it implemented for this update, and that they will continue to work on it. Just think about how bad it would be without village edit mode!

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I appreciate your time and effort on adding your valuable opinion on my post

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Originally Posted by elder

this is so stupid. Feels like Supercell employees arent allowed to clash, otherwise they'd figure out this obvious flaw.

Its gonna be a nightmare for farmers, it will also hit cup chasers, since even cup chasers more or less protect their resources, which aren't affected during war, so better strategy will be to use storages as shields without any protection.

Players would have to calculate perfect timing to set the base minutes before a war starts and to fix it back right after. What a hassle. Instead of this bizarre complex snapshotting mechanic you should just let us have two separate bases, one normal, one for clan wars.

Guys, consider delaying it for one more week to fix this ridiculous flaw. Just let us have a second permanent base for wars. We can survive one more week without CW (just don't forget to prolong the 1 gem boost :)

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I already redesigned my base so it's just a few swaps of defenses and storages to change between my war base and my farm base. I suggest others do this too until the fix to save multiple bases is implemented.

Watched daddy's video and you're right. Heros that die in a CW offensive raid have to regen in real time. Same with offensive CC troops.

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Originally Posted by elder

this is so stupid. Feels like Supercell employees arent allowed to clash, otherwise they'd figure out this obvious flaw.

Its gonna be a nightmare for farmers, it will also hit cup chasers, since even cup chasers more or less protect their resources, which aren't affected during war, so better strategy will be to use storages as shields without any protection.

Players would have to calculate perfect timing to set the base minutes before a war starts and to fix it back right after. What a hassle. Instead of this bizarre complex snapshotting mechanic you should just let us have two separate bases, one normal, one for clan wars.

Guys, consider delaying it for one more week to fix this ridiculous flaw. Just let us have a second permanent base for wars. We can survive one more week without CW (just don't forget to prolong the 1 gem boost :)

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I'd rather have Clan Wars with no village edit mode, than no Clan Wars. The village edit mode will take longer than 1 week to implement. If you notice the quote from Steve that you added to your message says he wishes they could have had the edit mode in place before now but it's not in the cards, and he's unsure of when they will have it. He even said he won't make any promises for the next update after CW.

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Originally Posted by MattCoC

I already redesigned my base so it's just a few swaps of defenses and storages to change between my war base and my farm base. I suggest others do this too until the fix to save multiple bases is implemented.

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the hassle is that you have to do these swaps minutes before war starts (or under a shield), otherwise you are at risk. And consider you're out of internet, busy, etc and miss the time

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Originally Posted by Anarchos

Pats vid says if a player is in a clan and leaves for another he'll have a cooldown period before he can go to war with the new clan, how long is the cooldown? Also if a clan is at war and a new member joins who hasn't been involved in a recent war can he participate in an on going war? Or will the player be locked out. Also, what if a player is involved in a war, leaves the clan and then returns. Can he continue to participate?


Can only the leader of a clan initiate a war, or co-leads as well? Does the leader/co-leader have to get a certain number of clan members to click a confirmation button of some sort showing they want to participate, or does the leader just start a war and hope the clan participates?


Once a war ends do the clans participating in it have a cooldown (similar to a player leaving a clan at war for another clan) or can the leaders immediately look for a match for another war?


If a player is upgrading his defenses normally, and a war starts will his village in the clan war have defenses offline or will they be working in the clan war only? (This could be a huge participation killer in farming clans if you are at a disadvantage in a clan war due to defenses upgrading.)


Is there a minimum town hall level to participating in a Clan War? Would a clan full of TH2s be able to initiate a war against other clans full of TH2s?


Pat's video says defenders don't lose resources, they will be generated. What kind of loot will be involved for the attacker? Will it be as if the defenders storages are full to capacity, or 1/2 or some percentage?

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How many Attacks do we start off with, anyone know?



Once the match making finds you a suitable clan to war with, will you be able to hit next and skip it like in normal match making? I mean, can you keep searching until you find a clan you want to clash with?


Will the matchmaking take into account stats like gold grab and heroic heist? I'm not saying it should, as I'm looking forward to clashes between top farming clans and top cup (gemming?) clans, but just curious if the means by which players have developed their base is taken into account.


Will the leader/co-leader be able to determine which clan mates will participate in the war? For example, can they exclude inactive members or low level visitors?

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Will the war base persist from one war to the next (not between the 2 battles, but from one 2-day war to the next), giving you the chance to stick with it or overwrite it with the current village base? Unless there are enhancements to the village edit mode to save/load different base configs, it will be a pita to have to keep changing between farming and war bases. Hybrids are always a compromise.


How does the matchmaking work? We know it's based of TH level, hero level, weapons levels, and wall levels, but is everyone in the clan weighed the same? Or is it like in trophies, your top 10 players make 50% of your clans total? Also do any of the matchmaking tools (TH, hero, weapons, walls) get weighed more heavily than the others?


What if some of the strongest bases in clan are inactive, will still be selected? And then since they're inactive what type of layout would an inactive member have? and those that don't want to do clan wars are they forced into it? Because they may have the strongest base, but just prefer to farm or cup hunt?


Is it true only the top 30 bases in a clan will be able to be attacked/participate?


Will we still be able to raid bases in the queue whilst a war is active?


Is there a reward for the winning clan?



Will there now be "save layout" options for switching between your "clan base" and regular base?



When will this be released?


Is there a minimum number of members required?



What happens if you kick someone out during a war.


How will the "strongest base/most trophies work?" What if say I am farming and I am say 17th in clan for trophies, if I am th7 and another person is Th10 but has awful defenses, and lvl walls? Will I be selected over the TH10?


How do we farm during a clan war?


What happens if the war ends and both clans have the same number of stars?


During matchmaking can we manually select a clan to war with or is it automatically done?


Is there a minimum number of members a clan needs to participate in a war?


Will there be a clan war leaderboard showing clans or individuals that have excelled in wars?


What happens if a clan starts a war, a players base is locked in, and they are kicked from the clan or leave?


Can a clan declare war on another clan of their choosing?


Youtube videos show you can deposit troops in a clan members CC on the clan war page. Is this the same CC as your out of CW CC? Or is it a copy?

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awesome thread anar!

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Originally Posted by thebronzedestroyer

awesome thread anar!

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Thanks Des!

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Originally Posted by elder

the hassle is that you have to do these swaps minutes before war starts (or under a shield), otherwise you are at risk. And consider you're out of internet, busy, etc and miss the time

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Yes, it is evident it won't work.

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Originally Posted by Anarchos

The village edit mode will take longer than 1 week to implement. If you notice the quote from Steve that you added to your message says he wishes they could have had the edit mode in place before now but it's not in the cards, and he's unsure of when they will have it. He even said he won't make any promises for the next update after CW.

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This is rule number one for software companies: never give estimates on feature implementation. Keep the flexibility. This just means they are not going to do it right now. There is no info on complexity.

Besides my main question was: how they managed to look this over in the first place. Was it intentional, or poor gameplay design? This flaw is so obvious

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Originally Posted by elder

the hassle is that you have to do these swaps minutes before war starts (or under a shield), otherwise you are at risk. And consider you're out of internet, busy, etc and miss the time

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Yea true - short of being able to save multiple layouts it would nice to just have a button to "lock in this layout" to lock in your war base rather than waiting for the timer to finish.

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

Not worth cooking a 90-120 minute army and since we're going for most percentage/stars to be the best I can for my clan I'd have to use GoWiWi. Huge time sink...and since I'm the strongest in my clan I will be forced to participate in EVERY SINGLE Clan War.

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you are never forced to do anything, if you participate you are doing so by choice, to represent your clan. cooking an overnight army and then once more should not be a big set back to your day, but if it is, you could always step out of clan right before clan wars starts, then jump back in and you wont be part of the roster. or just dont attack at all, many options here, none of which are forced

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Originally Posted by MattCoC

Yea true - short of being able to save multiple layouts it would nice to just have a button to "lock in this layout" to lock in your war base rather than waiting for the timer to finish.

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Ideally, the objectives should be aligned, that trophies = resources, and that there would be need only for one kind of a base. The next best solution I suppose is to have a second editor for the clan war base only.

It feels like they wanted to do it the easiest, most convenient way only to later find out it just won't work.

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Originally Posted by elder

Besides my main question was: how they managed to look this over in the first place. Was it intentional, or poor gameplay design? This flaw is so obvious

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Farming is a phenomenon SC never intended, and trophy pushing is what really pays the bills for them, and makes the game available for all of us. Every update they add more to incentivize trophy pushing rather than farming (leagues, then league bonus', then bigger league bonus', etc.) Why would they spend resources on something that incentivizes farming?


Clan Wars is the most anticipated feature in the history of CoC. SC managed to make it better than anyone hoped for (by the sounds of things that is) and at the same time made it so it adds extra loot to the game. Meaning you can trophy push, and do clan wars. Which could sustain loot for extended trophy pushing. Just because players that farm want a village edit mode doesn't mean SC does.

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Originally Posted by dfgdfgdfg

Ideally, the objectives should be aligned, that trophies = resources, and that there would be need only for one kind of a base.

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Ideally yes, in that case we wouldn't need farming, dropping cups or taking our THs out. By the way SC knows how to achieve it - thats the way it works in Boom Beach.

I need to stop reading this thread. The amount of complaining is driving me nuts. It isnt even out yet, and like everything its going to need tweaking! Give it a chance and give it time.

Again you don't have to participate! Instead you want to complain like your being forced to do something. how dare they try and improve the game!

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Originally Posted by Anarchos

Farming is a phenomenon SC never intended, and trophy pushing is what really pays the bills for them, and makes the game available for all of us. Every update they add more to incentivize trophy pushing rather than farming (leagues, then league bonus', then bigger league bonus', etc.) Why would they spend resources on something that incentivizes farming?


Clan Wars is the most anticipated feature in the history of CoC. SC managed to make it better than anyone hoped for (by the sounds of things that is) and at the same time made it so it adds extra loot to the game. Meaning you can trophy push, and do clan wars. Which could sustain loot for extended trophy pushing. Just because players that farm want a village edit mode doesn't mean SC does.

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Farming wouldn't have happened if the economy was right. Punishing farmers is pointless (anyway this "phenomenon" is Supercells fault initially), the right way is to make cup chasing profitable.

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Originally Posted by DipNFalls

I need to stop reading this thread. The amount of complaining is driving me nuts. It isnt even out yet, and like everything its going to need tweaking! Give it a chance and give it time.

Again you don't have to participate! Instead you want to complain like your being forced to do something. how dare they try and improve the game!

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Sadly this is typical for every update. Complain Complain Complain! I agree how can you complain when you have not even tried it?

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Originally Posted by Anarchos

Farming is a phenomenon SC never intended, and trophy pushing is what really pays the bills for them, and makes the game available for all of us. Every update they add more to incentivize trophy pushing rather than farming (leagues, then league bonus', then bigger league bonus', etc.) Why would they spend resources on something that incentivizes farming?


Clan Wars is the most anticipated feature in the history of CoC. SC managed to make it better than anyone hoped for (by the sounds of things that is) and at the same time made it so it adds extra loot to the game. Meaning you can trophy push, and do clan wars. Which could sustain loot for extended trophy pushing. Just because players that farm want a village edit mode doesn't mean SC does.

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If only they could find a way to link resource production/loot to your trophy level.....

What do the members of the clan that aren't in the top 30 do while the clan is at war?

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Originally Posted by elder

the right way is to make cup chasing profitable.

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I think this will help make trophy pushing profitable. Did you watch daddy's latest video? When he raided Simon Tay and 2 star'd him he got only like 50k/50k, but look at the league bonus for that one attack. It was more than 400k/400k. 2 victories per war puts you at nearly 1,000,000 of each resource, then if your clan wins you get another big bonus for
the clan award. Add that to any res you happen to get while trophy pushing and it could be pretty profitable.

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Originally Posted by DipNFalls

I need to stop reading this thread. The amount of complaining is driving me nuts. It isnt even out yet, and like everything its going to need tweaking! Give it a chance and give it time.

Again you don't have to participate! Instead you want to complain like your being forced to do something. how dare they try and improve the game!

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I merely question How things work, Why they are designed this way, Is there any other way to solve the same problem. This is how my brain works. That's the way to perceive the world. By questioning and reflecting. Its that simple.

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Originally Posted by ayellowjeep

What do the members of the clan that aren't in the top 30 do while the clan is at war?

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All members of the clan participate in the war

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Originally Posted by ayellowjeep

What do the members of the clan that aren't in the top 30 do while the clan is at war?

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They read this thread and find out they are in fact in the war and the leader gave them the wrong info, because he did not read the threAd. Lol

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Originally Posted by ayellowjeep

What do the members of the clan that aren't in the top 30 do while the clan is at war?

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Do whatever you normally would do. The "war" is two attacks at most for each player. Its not like they will be leaving you by yourself for 2 days.

Is it possible to be involved in 2 wars at the same time. One in which your clan initiated and one in which your clan is defending?

Loot from CW is distributed at the end of the "season". Does this mean at the end of the league season or is the duration of the war its own season?

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Originally Posted by NoneYa

Is it possible to be involved in 2 wars at the same time. One in which your clan initiated and one in which your clan is defending?

Loot from CW is distributed at the end of the "season". Does this mean at the end of the league season or is the duration of the war its own season?

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1. No

2. At the end of the CW you receive the loot not at the end of the league

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I think this will help make trophy pushing profitable. Did you watch daddy's latest video? When he raided Simon Tay and 2 star'd him he got only like 50k/50k, but look at the league bonus for that one attack. It was more than 400k/400k. 2 victories per war puts you at nearly 1,000,000 of each resource, then if your clan wins you get another big bonus for
the clan award. Add that to any res you happen to get while trophy pushing and it could be pretty profitable.

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i hope it will be that way. We also had high expectations a year ago when leagues and bonuses were introduced. Everyone expected that bonuses will be high and it will solve the problem.

I like a lot Boom Beach economy, there is no need to farm there. I hope they will eventually bring that mechanics here. No nexting, no cups dropping, no exposed town halls

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I need to stop reading this thread. The amount of complaining is driving me nuts. It isnt even out yet, and like everything its going to need tweaking! Give it a chance and give it time.

Again you don't have to participate! Instead you want to complain like your being forced to do something. how dare they try and improve the game!

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Sadly this is typical for every update. Complain Complain Complain! I agree how can you complain when you have not even tried it?

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Agreed. Hasn't even made its' way to us yet. On the surface SC appears to have addressed many of the common concerns. Yet people find a way to be dissatisfied before they can even try it out for size. I can only surmise that these peeps are glass is half empty (thanks Angray) sorts ... and see it as such regardless of the actual fluid level.

Admittedly, I was a skeptic that clan wars would be implemented in a way I could enjoy, just judging from others' experience with another platform. I have to say that so far I am pleasantly surprised, and even look forward to experiencing clan wars first hand :D

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Agreed. Hasn't even made its' way to us yet. On the surface SC appears to have addressed many of the common concerns. Yet people find a way to be dissatisfied before they can even try it out for size. I can only surmise that these peeps are glass is half full sorts ... and see it as such regardless of the actual fluid level.

Admittedly, I was a skeptic that clan wars would be implemented in a way I could enjoy, just judging from others' experience with another platform. I have to say that so far I am pleasantly surprised, and even look forward to experiencing clan wars first hand :D

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I believe you mean half empty.

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All members of the clan participate in the war

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I don't believe that is true... and if so, it wouldn't be fair.

The system will round down by FIVE to the nearest lower increment. Apparently, there will be a limit of 30 defending bases.

However, ATTACKING players will still be limited by the lower number of clan players. If one clan has 50 players and one clan has 44, but they are still matched up, theoretically shouldn't the number of attacking players be 40 for both sides?

There must be equal number of attackers and defenders in a clan war to be fair IMO.

When do android devices get clan wars?

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When do android devices get clan wars?

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The same as iOS.

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When do android devices get clan wars?

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Android users will have to wait 2 years before receiving clan wars. :rolleyes:


But seriously, why would this update be any different than the others? Obviously Android gets it at the same time...

I saw people playing clan wars already on YouTube on ios. Was wondering if there was a date for clan wars. Not looking for sarcasm, but thanks.

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I saw people playing clan wars already on YouTube on ios. Was wondering if there was a date for clan wars. Not looking for sarcasm, but thanks.

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Yes, people are already playing clan wars on Youtube. Those would be the youtubers who went to Finland to visit Supercell, and the ones who are giving us the sneakpeaks for Supercell...

do we need to be in crystal or higher for clan wars? or what is with the crystal thing on the piano?

So in short make a war party of 10 up of active players who are willing to do the 2 days of clan wars.. Then go back to clan after the wars... Solves inactives problems correct?.

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do we need to be in crystal or higher for clan wars? or what is with the crystal thing on the piano?

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No, the crystal league on the piano was just an easter egg. The hog rider won't have a piano or sing as he goes into battle either.

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answer 10 there is no longer a limit of 30 bases

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Will defenders be determined the same way as attackers (round down by FIVE)

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No, the crystal league on the piano was just an easter egg. The hog rider won't have a piano or sing as he goes into battle either.

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That should be the lvl 6 version of the hogrider that would be so AWESOME whos with me piano riding hog singing hammer swinging troop lol so cool

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That should be the lvl 6 version of the hogrider that would be so AWESOME whos with me piano riding hog singing hammer swinging troop lol so cool

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Haha, yeah it would be pretty sweet. Like just before three starring the base he could whip out a piano "three starrrrrrrrrrrsssssss".

Can a clan with only 10 members, each being level 10, ever be matched up with a clan of 50 level 7 members or something similar? This seems like it would cause a serious disparity in favor of the smaller, stronger clan if it can happen.

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Can a clan with only 10 members, each being level 10, ever be matched up with a clan of 50 level 7 members or something similar? This seems like it would cause a serious disparity in favor of the smaller, stronger clan if it can happen.

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Yes, but only 10 players with be matched. It rounds down to the nearest 5 and the minimum clan that compete has to have 10 players.

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Yes, but only 10 players with be matched. It rounds down to the nearest 5 so if there were 7 it would be 5 v 5.

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*raises hand slowly*

How are the people eliminated chosen? Are they the worst bases in the clan? And what happens to them? They just dont compete?

I read that SC has said the bases will be ranked/listed with the highest trophy count at the top and thus yielding the highest loot bonus rewards.

My question is, if you have an algorithm to rate base strength based on the criteria listed by SC, why wouldn't you use a version or that algorithm to rank the bases in the war so the toughest bases yield the best bonuses and are therefore the most desirable to attack? Just doesn't make much sense to me. But maybe there'll become a clear reason why when "all is revealed"

Thanks! Can't wait for this awesome update!

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*raises hand slowly*

How are the people eliminated chosen? Are they the worst bases in the clan? And what happens to them? They just dont compete?

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It picks the strongest bases. Walls, Hero levels, general base progression. The players not competing are just spectators.

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It picks the strongest bases. Walls, Hero levels, general base progression. The players not competing are just spectators.

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Aight thats what I thought... thanks

Sounds cool. Cannot wait.

Hi I read through all the Q&A on first pages, but not the replies so sorry if not answered.]
There was confusion about how many bases/players from one clan is chosen, intially 30 but then that was refuted. So just some clarification there espcially with inactives, or high lvl players dropped low trophies to farm etc.

How many players from each clan join?
How those players are entered? automatically, chosen by leaders?

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*raises hand slowly*

How are the people eliminated chosen? Are they the worst bases in the clan? And what happens to them? They just dont compete?

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It picks the strongest bases. Walls, Hero levels, general base progression. The players not competing are just spectators.

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Maybe I'm misreading sneakydave, but he's saying it's based on trophy count, not base strength:

Originally Posted by Sneakydave http://forum.supercell.net/images/bu...post-right.png
firstly, clan wars is optional for all clans. Your players that get chosen to participate (up to 50) cant lose anything so theres no down side. The amount chosen will depend on your starting clan member count and your opponents (to the nearest 5, rounded down, excluding uneligable players from clan hopping). the ones chosen are then based on trophy count, so if you have anyone going inactive they need to drop trophy count. Anyone not chosen will become a spectator instead.

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Maybe I'm misreading sneakydave, but he's saying it's based on trophy count, not base strength:

Originally Posted by Sneakydave http://forum.supercell.net/images/bu...post-right.png
firstly, clan wars is optional for all clans. Your players that get chosen to participate (up to 50) cant lose anything so theres no down side. The amount chosen will depend on your starting clan member count and your opponents (to the nearest 5, rounded down, excluding uneligable players from clan hopping). the ones chosen are then based on trophy count, so if you have anyone going inactive they need to drop trophy count. Anyone not chosen will become a spectator instead.

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Oh my bad, I was talking about the way clans are matched to other clans.

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Maybe I'm misreading sneakydave, but he's saying it's based on trophy count, not base strength:

Originally Posted by Sneakydave http://forum.supercell.net/images/bu...post-right.png
firstly, clan wars is optional for all clans. Your players that get chosen to participate (up to 50) cant lose anything so theres no down side. The amount chosen will depend on your starting clan member count and your opponents (to the nearest 5, rounded down, excluding uneligable players from clan hopping). the ones chosen are then based on trophy count, so if you have anyone going inactive they need to drop trophy count. Anyone not chosen will become a spectator instead.

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Ok, cool, thanks :)

Honestly, all they have to do to implement saving villages on war bases ONLY is

1. Don't allow obstacles one war bases.

2. Saving bases on war bases is only effective on war bases.

3. Whenever u upgrade a building it effects both war base/ normal base.

4. When u build something new, it won't affect war base until you go to it and add it.

I understand that if someone leaves their clan mid war they face a cool-down of 2 days before participating in another war. Can someone clarify:

Does the cool-down only apply for mid war leavers? Ie if you leave a clan not at war and join another, do you still have to wait 2 days before participating in the new clan wars?


it seems from the structure of selecting the toughest clan bases to participate in wars means that if you have tough, but not so active players in your clan, you will be at a disadvantage to win a war if they don't participate. To avoid some brutal kicking of loyal clan mates....Seems like having an additional clan (that only those who will participate in the upcoming war join) is a viable option. Just wondering how the cool-down feature would affect members moving between clans under this strategy.

cheers

So did I really read that we won't be able to do regular raids when we are in a war?

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So did I really read that we won't be able to do regular raids when we are in a war?

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If you read that, they were incorrect.

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So did I really read that we won't be able to do regular raids when we are in a war?

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That is false. You will be able to raid normally. Consider Clan Wars as a sort of side game, which you can go play for 10 minutes, and then get back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Just a thought, but it would be really nice to be able to "lock in" your war base at any time during the 24 hour prep day. Rather than waiting until the timer runs out on day 1, a player could just click a button whenever they are ready for their base to be "carbon copied" for the war.

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If you read that, they were incorrect.

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I hope so. What page did you find that answered on?

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I hope so. What page did you find that answered on?

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Even if you can find it stated explicitly somewhere, it is implicit in their approach that supercell wants clan wars not to effect those player who do not want to partake. For this reason alone you can rest assured.

You can most definitely make normal raids during a clan war.

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Honestly, all they have to do to implement saving villages on war bases ONLY is

1. Don't allow obstacles one war bases.

2. Saving bases on war bases is only effective on war bases.

3. Whenever u upgrade a building it effects both war base/ normal base.

4. When u build something new, it won't affect war base until you go to it and add it.

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You make it sound so easy. Lol those 4 "simple" steps would take a lot of programming, coding, and a lot of server space and testing.

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Even if you can find it stated explicitly somewhere, it is implicit in their approach that supercell wants clan wars not to effect those player who do not want to partake. For this reason alone you can rest assured.

You can most definitely make normal raids during a clan war.

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It's answered in the OP...

What else is in the update besides clan wars

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You make it sound so easy. Lol those 4 "simple" steps would take a lot of programming, coding, and a lot of server space and testing.

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It is just a few lines of code. What could be so hard about it?

;)

Thank you very much for this informative post!

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What else is in the update besides clan wars

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gem box and level six clan castle confirmed so far

Hi guys, anyone have any idea about this:

It maybe got lost in all the posts...Soory if illgeal to re-post..

Hi I read through all the Q&A on first pages, but not the replies so sorry if not answered.]
There was confusion about how many bases/players from one clan is chosen, intially 30 but then that was refuted. So just some clarification there espcially with inactives, or high lvl players dropped low trophies to farm etc.

How many players from each clan join?
How those players are entered? automatically, chosen by leaders?

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Hi guys, anyone have any idea about this:

It maybe got lost in all the posts...Soory if illgeal to re-post..

Hi I read through all the Q&A on first pages, but not the replies so sorry if not answered.]
There was confusion about how many bases/players from one clan is chosen, intially 30 but then that was refuted. So just some clarification there espcially with inactives, or high lvl players dropped low trophies to farm etc.

How many players from each clan join?
How those players are entered? automatically, chosen by leaders?

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TL,DR

Try reading first post.

I know clans are matched up by according to their base but are the levels of the defenses and heros and stuff rounded over the entire clan or individual by individual
For example if I am in a clan and i have a completely maxed out town hall ten with 49 th2 people will the clan we are matched against a compromise of "medium" lvl players or 1 high lvl player and a bunch of low level players :p