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April fools??
For all those without sound is it possible to get a written version?Quote:
Originally Posted by LuigiCreed
No man its 2th AprilQuote:
Originally Posted by grafik
If this was a joke then a lot would leave, but it's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by grafik
Waiting for WARS! }:>
Any details on how clan wars will work?
I am still getting through the YouTubers videos, but so far Simon Tays is the most explanatoryQuote:
Originally Posted by Frenzy
:)
I just have 2 questions after watching all the videos from the youtubers about Clan Wars:
1. Is the number of participants fixed at 10 members per clan? Or can the leader/co-leaders select any number of war participants from their clan?
2. Will there be an improvement in the Village Edit mode where we can save different layouts, so that players can switch between a "War Layout" and a "Farming Layout" very quickly (instead of editing the entire village or build a hybrid base)?
Thanks, looking forward to the wars! Good job Supercell!
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1. No it won't be fixedQuote:
Originally Posted by UnitySharp
2. No ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by Daddy
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Originally Posted by UnitySharp
From what i picked up
War mode will save a seperate layout from your normal layout. So you wont need to switch between designs. just have your normal farming one and when you enter clan wars, day 1 is to sort your war design out which will stay the same until you change it??
Daddy said that if you gonna attack a clan that have 36 per example member.. your top 36 player will attack also..
As for an other news.. Godson upload the commercial video of clan wars now, and said to try to find 3 EASTER EGGS !! :cool:
If we fight wars every other day (2 days for each war), then do I need to change my farming layout to the war layout every other day? It would be very troublesome unless I use a hybrid design.Quote:
Originally Posted by GREGORY
If layouts can be saved, then I can switch my village to the war layout right before the war starts, and then switch back to the farming layout to continue farming. You see what I mean?
please release some details about how it works. we have all been waiting ages for this and you just keep dangling that carrot and not giving anything. the video was good but it didn't give us anything about how it would work. we all already knew that it was coming so it wasn't exactly a sneak peek.
c'mon give us something.
you say you have already released it to apple so you know exactly what is in the update. why not just release it all like you did when you did the sneak peek sprint a few months back.
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Originally Posted by UnitySharp
I mean your on your normal village. like now. and when you enter clan wars area you can click on your village and it will be your war layout and when you exit back clan wars your be returned to your normal village.
I agree with what you say about saving layouts, I only hope they include saving layouts.
as far as it was explained till now:Quote:
Originally Posted by UnitySharp
-> 1. Every member of a clan who wants to participate has to log into the War on the 1st day.
if Clan A has 25 members who wants to fight and Clan B has only 21 then only the first 21 members of Clan A are allowed to participate.
-> 2. Not much information on that till now... Only: the design you'll have by the end of day one will be used for the war... After the design is logged in you can change it back to your regular one... But there is no info if your original design is saved somewhere to switch back to it
Oh I see what you mean, but Simon Tay said the war layout will be a clone of your village before the war starts, which means you probably won't be able to edit the war village in the friendly territories, instead you need to modify your layout in your normal village for war. Is this correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by GREGORY
If correct, then saving layouts in the Village Edit mode would be super helpful!
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Originally Posted by UnitySharp
yeah tbh mate just imagine the longest and painfullest way to change designs.
thats what we'll have to work with.
(thumbs up)
Sweet. I have to admit I've been skeptical about wether it was actually coming, but now SC has officially said it is I'm anxious.
Am just curious... if U DO NOT want to be targeted... just drop all clan mates below 2000?
sorry for not looking earlier but I thought all the info on clan wars was speculation not from simon tay and daddy YT videos. just watched daddy's and it looks to me like there is 340k of each loot available. is that depending on what the village has on prep day or is that a standard amount?
cant wait if that is standard. I will finally be able to farm lvl10 walls. 3 mill each, ouch
Just some questions.
* are we going to have clan war statistics? if yes, is it going to be an individual record on our profiles or for the whole clan, right next to the description of the clan? I would like both.
* are we going to be able to save layouts? cause those who farm and willing to participate in clan wars need to redesign their bases every time they want to go to war.
* if members of the clan missed their attacks, what happens?
* if enrolled members left the clan before the battle begins, what happens?
Clan Wars can't wait, Should be very interesting!
Looks interesting, how is that loot divided up once the war is over? Do I get it during the battle?
What happens to the troops i use in an attack during clan wars?
I am currently 1,000 trophies ahead of the rest of my clan. Does that mean either I will be able to dominate a clan war with an opposing clan or that my clan mates would get smashed to pieces through the averaging out process?
I am excited of course for clan wars, because i want to see how they will differentiate it from their competitors! I also have a wish and a hope that other already existing features improve as well... one of them being INCREASE the IQ lvl of heroes ^^ thanks SC :)
Woohoo!! So excited! Gonna be fantastic I'm sure.
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Originally Posted by shutzy
Haha that's not possible. SC will go bankrupt.
From ok what i gathered, think of it as 'farming for stars'. The clan that has most 'stars' at the end of the war wins. Winning Clan earn bragging rights and some sort of incentive which hasn't been revealed.
Nice work supercell! I am anxious to watch the videos to see how it works.
im sure you did great, way to not rush it!!
Saving different layouts in village edit mode is now my #1 feature request.
3 cheers though, this looks completely epic. Thank you for your hard work and visionary design. I think this update hits it out of the park.
Farming bases are largely characterized by the townhall being placed outside of the base. Based on the Simon Tray video which show that storages ontop of the townhall, I think we can expect that loosing your TH will have a loot penalty attached to it to discourage this behavior. This all means that there will likely be no need to have a different base for trophy and farming as in both scenarios you will still want to protect your TH.Quote:
Originally Posted by UnitySharp
Good move on their part I think.
lol at the hog xD
Thanks SC! Cant wait to try it out!
ETA on when the update will come?
Not just the TH, in a war layout, all the resource buildings (DE & gold storage tanks) will go outside of the base. Also my farming base and my war base are quite different because they are catered towards different trophy ranges where players have very different behaviors. So it would be ideal if we can save layouts and switch back and forth instantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by tprice5
If not, it is not a huge deal for me. We can just make war layouts and then move the buildings around (mainly the TH and the storage tanks) to convert a war base to a farming base.
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Originally Posted by darkido
from what I saw it said 340k available on daddy's video. if it isn't available then what is the benefit of putting all that elixir into troops. I have no use for elixir at the minute cause im nearly maxxed at th9 but I will need lots of it when I get to th10
So much this. Can people stay online 24/7? (Excluding the 5 minute breaks) Can shields be bought? I cant see CoC not giving an incentive for gemmers, but how important would it be? I will try to be hopeful, but we are in a game where you pay to be first, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foufoumoro
This is why we always believe the hype! Woo!
After a year of asking for clan wars, I'm grateful they took their time to make it so awesome!
From im what I've seen it is incredibly thought out and polished!
Congrats supercell team this is quite an accomplishment!
I can't contain my joy for this!! ^_^ Gonna be so amazing. Next awesome thing would be clan levels and experience!
well, they definitely fix loot problem with clan wars. hahaha
Chief Pat Is the man yow
Yeeeaaaaah ! Claaan Waaaars ! :D
Wow thank you so much Supercell. You truly listen to your customers. This means a lot.
CLAN WARS!!!! YEAAAHAHAHAHA
This will be awesome!
http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/231100-Leaked-Update-Stuff-Compiled-Assessed%21-%28Most-updated-Details%29can we have some other small sneak peeks along with each teaser as well?
I thought it was an update, but that video was still hilarious
I cant wait for clan wars!
Just watched all four videos. Took till Simons one to actually get some details! His is by far the best. God sons was decent too. Daddy, your videos are normally good mate, but this one looks rushed if im honest. And that's including the 90 seconds of black at the end! You can see chief pats gimmick in releasing a video a day, but people want info now! And that's what Simon gave.
And nd that folks is my imdb review lol.
meh.....with a capital MEH!
Quite excited by this, but I hope the matching works ...
I'm very closed to maxed defences,
3x lvl 12 Archer towers still to do, 4x lvl 8 air defences to do, 2x lvl 3 inferno's to do ... Just another 68 million there...
But walls are waaay down, mostly just level 8.
Interested how matchmaking will take such things into account IE how big an impact walls will have. As if defences takes big priority I will be matched against people way above me, but if walls has a big part to play I might find this works quite nicely ...
Also, I do wonder if we'll now have to kick some of the less active clan members, but in theory having to login once per day to prep and then just to attack twice isn't exactly arduous. It might get pretty frustrating for the guys though if every time we go to war they are a guarunteed 3 star defeat ...
This is going to be very interesting indeed ...
Dave
I'm pumped!
Awesome! But I thought the update was today.
I'm sorry but if this game turns into a gree game.... I'm done...
whats a gree game?Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin490
It is my understanding we are matched up as closely as possible wit a clan of similar lvl......
Will the high lvl farmers join mediocre to terrible clans as mercenaries? Will the mediocre to terrible clans playing that clan become upset when that farmer three stars half their bases and takes away their bonus loot?
Will high lvl farming clans split in half and recruit 25 noobs to each new clan to earn favorable matchups while in farming mode?
I am wondering if it is 25 people vs 25 people if it takes the first 25 that accept the clan war or only the top 25 players listed in the clan by trophy count. I am hoping it is the first 25 to accept the war to keep people who are not able to make the war or are gone for a couple days from joining.
After watching all of the videos that are up as of now, we can all agree that Simon's was ultimately the only useful one to watch; although, Godsons has some good insight. Simon mentioned that involved in matchmaking will be:
- Hero levels
- Town hall levels
- Weapons (Defences I presume)
- Walls
- Number of players
Obviously we can expect to get more in-depth videos, but I would like to know how everything works regardless. Judging from the videos, it seems that SC has actually made a solid Clan Wars, a side game that is fair to all. The only thing I am not certain on, is this matchmaking. Is it truly the average town hall? Do players who lack heroes register a 0/0 on an average hero level? Were research levels overlooked by Simon, or will they be excluded from interest? Does the matchmaking take more interest in the top 10 players of every clan? Either way, I will finally tip my hat off to SC for what seems to be the best update we have witnessed.
Daddy - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hEXuBUGrb6k
Godson - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lKinAy-f2sQ
PlayClashofClans - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AAWuw6zOyLs
SimonTay - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R8QlNjr_Xqg
All videos - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...kU5DmMrEQV_QM-
This would be cool
Can you post links to the videos??
Sure, give me a minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeowImmaKitty
Wooooooooooooooooot! Thanks SC! :)
We will own everyone :p:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayClashOfClans
To exploit matchmaking by going to lower lvl clans or by recruiting terrible players
Ohhh, I can't await the upcoming update, guys.
Gonna be so impatient until it's there haha :D
That is what I am thinking. Recruit complete newbies at th 3 to average it out to a th 6 clan, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clark
It looks like avail loot is based on lvl of the storages. So u might want to avg out just one lvl lower than the majority of your players are.....get just enough noobs on your squad to drop a tier and let big guys three star everything
Its a double edged sword. Kinda pointless unless you are winning a massive amount of gems anyways imo. People will try and ♥♥♥♥♥ the system for sure but it won't be as bad if they have higher tier rewards for higher lvl bases match ups. Thats the incentive. You bring in trash, you get trash:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clark
Well took forever ,but finally happening.All those clan war haters will be leaving in droves now hopefully,you know who you are.
I agree, we have the loot bonus for that. Somewhere in the video (or other ones), i saw bases with 340k resources each bonus, while others have 90k or something. So there're definitely different tiers for the bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by 36DArchers
Also, exploiting the system by allowing weak townhall into your clan will also means free 3* for enemies, it goes both ways.
Right which is why u sandbag just enough to drop where u can still dominate....u might want 10 noobs instead of 25, all depends on matchmaking.....Quote:
Originally Posted by 36DArchers
hope supercell takes like the top two or three players into the most consideration when matchmaking to discourage it
If this has already been covered then apologies in advance but, who is able to send a clan to war? I'm assuming this will only be possible for leaders and co-leaders to prevent 50 people simultainiously searching for an opponent...
Red: TH 7
Yellow: Gold mine
Orange: Archer tower
http://imgur.com/ejGDp8m
People can only attack 2 people, so it's kind of harder to exploit than you guys think.
It looked to me like it could be storage lvl like on goblin maps....?Quote:
Originally Posted by rjdofu
Let us hope it cannot be exploited. You are correct on the last part, newbies will be bringing in straight losses. Could this create a wave of clans with second accounts? A newbie with a good setup might be enough to fend off other newbies.Quote:
Originally Posted by 36DArchers
So in a fifty person clan if you have 40 lvl 100 players and 10 lv1 players, will you be matched with lvl 81 players? Pretty easy for 40 th9s to three star 50 th8s in 80 attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDevilsLuck
What are you trying to say here? Aren't they quite obvious? (Esp. the mine and arch tower)Quote:
Originally Posted by KMRS
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Originally Posted by Clark
well.. it's also level of heroes and those other stats.
10 lvl one players going to bring down those averages too since they dont even have herosQuote:
Originally Posted by rdtx2012
Who knows exactly how it will work.....but hopefully they have it figured out to stop these kinds of exploits....if not hopefully they figure it out before release
i don't think it's a direct average.. we'll see.. it wouldn't make sense if it was like that. i'm sure people like Daddy/Godson/ChiefPat/etc.. have asked about that and it's been covered..Quote:
Originally Posted by Clark
i mean.. they did attack the clan hoppers.. lol
Theoretically, the newbies without walls and heroes would drop the average significantly, depending how the system averages the players.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdtx2012
sorry if this has been asked already but, we can choose which clan we want to fight against right? Want to be sure!:eek:
nope, it's going to be matchmaking based on the total strenght of all members of your clan...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazain
...and of course you will pick up random clans... :)
Will upgrading defenses still be dysfunctional like in normal matchmaking? I wanna up my xbows but I don't want them to be down for the first CW :(
finnish flag at 0:13 :cool:
Presumably it is 'weighted averages' like how the current clan score is based? So the ten weakest accounts would have a very low impact on the clan rating.
Haha I hear ya!Quote:
Originally Posted by dossier
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I started both my IT's >.< Could be an interesting first war! :P
I am optimistic first off but there are some things I worry about
1) How will the match making system balance lopsided clans?
-Simon Tay alluded to this but with nothing concrete. I looks like perhaps you are limited in the number of opposing clan members you can attack. Simion Tay talked about coordinating your attacks with your clan so that you don't attack the same people. Perhaps this means your biggest hitters are better off attacking the opposing big hitters, because your weaker clan members would need someone they could reasonably expect to beat. It also said it'd only take the most stars for the final calculation (meaning if two attacks occur on the same base, one was a 3-star and one was a 1-star -only the 3 star would count.
1b) Okay, second issue. How will it work for lopsided clans? I am currently 1,000 trophies ahead of the rest of my clan. Does this mean in averaging out ability that I'd get an opponent I could crush, while my clanmates would be desperately outmatched?
2) How is the loot bonus calculated?
This is a big consideration. I appeared in Simion's video that more difficult opponents would generate more loot. If this were true, then your heavy hitters would want the bigger loot pots. It also appeared those loot pots where significant - which is important. As we'd need good motivation to hit those tough targets
3) Do we train our own troops? How is this related to the clan castle donations.
Simion said that the clan castle is automatically restocked. Is that with the same units? Do I still build and attack with an army like normal?
I'm excited, just curious
O hope they don't go off the top player. I'm a lvl 100 with all level 70s and under. I don't want my buds to get destroyed
They said that this has nothing to do with trophies, and the loot that you get is all bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clark
I hope the rewards include more incentives than just the loot reward, because it does not look all that significant. A couple battles per day with a 300k bonus, would be nice, but it would be similar to offering 2 abandoned bases. Can this truly raise the fun factor for those extremely inactive clanmates?
Well, if it becomes common then most clans will have mercenaries so it will even out. Also you are limited to 2 attacks per day, so even a top player can only influence the war by a little bit.
Sorry if this has already been addressed. Are there leaderboards? Your own clan's Clan War profile? Would be cool to have a world rank system like our current for cup hunting but with a clan profile which shows the number of 1-2-3 stars, wins/losses, back log of who was faced, total wins etc. Matching up against top clans to see where you stand would provide additional motivation as well. (Not that this update isn't awesome enough) Cheers - ark
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Originally Posted by JSpong
The best update we've witnessed was the update where they implemented REPLAY's .. in all honesty nothing can top that one
How can that even be compared to this? I would even rank the permanent army camps over the replays/profiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGbunnyEARS
Mercenaries will actually hurt your clan. Your best chance to win a war is if your entire clan is basically evenly matched. allowing high level players to join will skew clan-wide matchups to be more difficult overall. SC has spent a lot of time thinking about how to implement this, so trying to game the system is probably pointless. It's best to treat this as it is--an interesting diversion designed to add fun to the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom128
We won't know until they actually release but I just wanted to remind folks that "average" is not necessarily "arithmetic mean".
"Average" can also be the median or mode.
For median, it would be the middle player in any ranked list. This removes the skew a lvl 250 player puts on a clan of lvl 25 players. Median as a measure could be carefully gamed also. 26 low level players and 24 high level players would have a low median.
For mode, it is the most frequently occurring value. You can probably figure this out and dream up ways to game it.
Since we have been told they have multiple inputs for their "clan level" measurement, I think we can also be sure they have looked carefully at the various ways to characterize a clan. Even simply going with an average value cross indexed to the standard deviation value would reduce the opportunity to "game" your clan level toward weaker opponents. They have had a good amount of time to think this through and play test it. I would not worry about it too much.
Seems like we still need an answer for how base editing will work. As mentioned, it looks like the war base is a clone of your current base, which then gets edited and saved. It looks like it is saved for that war for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by UnitySharp
I guess, what happens next war? Do you need to create and edit a new war base? Or will it save the last one you used? With building levels changing often and maybe new ones being added, I don't see how it could save it for the next war event. My guess is you need to edit a new war base for each new war.
Looks like there's gonna be a lvl 6 cc. Godson's vid shows his lvl 5 cc offering a 7m upgrade presumably to 6. Simon Tay's vid shows his lvl 4 cc costing 5m (currently 7m) from lvl 4 -5, presumably to adjust to the cost of a lvl 6 cc.