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I have maxed out TH9 besides Walls and Heroes. I have Level 8 Walls and King 10, Queen 11. Should I go to TH10 for the Infernoes or stay at TH9 doing walls? It would be great if you guys could list the pros and cons of each Town Hall Level and then pick a favorite. I'm going to throw a poll onto this post as well. I look forward to the replies:cool:
What a general question you asked...
People have different opinions and ways of playing this game. Do whatever you feel like to do.
Well I kind of wanted this thread to be a general collection of what people think. I want every opinion:cool:
What I would/am doing: Staying at TH9 until 100% maxxed, gonna take a reeeaaaalllly long time though.
What you should do: Not take my advice seriously 'cause I'm a noob.
I do have really dumb ideas. Like I skipped TH8 just because having three of everything in a square game was making me so mad. I also am not going to TH10 at all even when (or if) I'm maxxed, unless there's a TH11. Only because I like TH9 for some reason.
Hi appart from the fact that you post doesn't tell us much what you have (lvl walls and lvl heroes...) but I would say lvl8 walls is good enough and 15-20 heroes is good thats my plan anyway
John
Walls 8. BK 10, AQ 11.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by kidcudi88
Very confusing.Quote:
Originally Posted by GameloverHD
Maybe he forgot except.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angray
Oh god sorry! Added "besides" into there. Stupid typos and memory:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Angray
^^ This ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Loraxdooper
Also, this decision may become moot once the update is announced (e.g., SC may push a bunch of upgrades down to lower TH levels meaning you need to do a little more farming at TH 9 to max yourself out (again)).
Having three of everything in a square?Quote:
Originally Posted by TTTIIIMMM
I would go for th 10. Upgrading your hero's to max lvl for th9 might take more then 2 month, also keep in mind you have lvl 8 walls which means for th9 you have to do lvl 9 walls 1 mil each which is 250 mil gold in total n lvl 10 walls 3mil each which is.... I guess you don't want to know :p
Stay TH9 until you have at least all level 9 walls.
So what you're saying is you're not maxed?Quote:
Originally Posted by GameloverHD
in my opinion go for TH10 since you have maxed defenses of TH9.
Besides you will get Inferno Towers which will make your base scarier and more cool.
go to TH10 and you will have time to max everything step by step.
I say stay as long as you can... Rushing to th10 and maxing everything as quick as you can will just cause you to quit the game sooner as you realize there is no end game worth playing. The journey there is much more satisfying. Enjoy it, take your time.
I would say th10 because lvl8 walls from th8 are plenty
it depends on how much you farm a day....if u do example 8million a day then you will finish walls in notime at th9...or if your average is 1 million a day then you will stay at th9 for a very long time and you have to consider how much lab upgrades and th10 upgrades you could do while you spend doing walls at th9. By reading some of your postīs in the forum i see you farm around crystal 2? the loot penalty wont have 2 much impact on you around that area...but it will get a little toughter....on the bright side...once you get those infernos and extra xbow, you will notice the difference they make...say goodbye to those hogs and balloon attacks that you ususally had a problem with.
I actually don't have that much of a problem with Hog attacks which is why I'm wondering whether to upgrade or not. I farm in 2500-2700 keeping the Master III shield. Works great for me:cool: You brought up some good points. It seems like TH10 would be the proper choice but if the loot is really as bad as they say I will be stuck:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by DragonClasher
How much do you farm a day on a average?Quote:
Originally Posted by GameloverHD
Depends on my activity but on a normal day approximately 3 million Gold and 10 thousand DE:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by DragonClasher
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Originally Posted by TTTIIIMMM
i honestly like your thinking :rolleyes:
Thats good, i would say that you will loose around 25% of that gold income...but the de would prob stay the same if not higher with your new de drill.Quote:
Originally Posted by GameloverHD
well thats how i was when i upgraded to th10 except i had made like 80 lvl 9 walls r something like that and i don't really regret it. its fun to be th10. i wanna be the again though, loot came so easy back then
Upgrading to TH10!! Thanks for all the input guys. Decided to do TH10 as those advantages seemed to outweigh the disadvantages. Again, huge thanks for all the help deciding:cool:
Since you've gotten the VAST majority of your gold through the gem store, you might as well go up to TH10. There's no loot penalty if you're buying the loot. Your next 330 Million gold will cost you the same $800 as your last 330 Million.
I quit about a month before the profile update. I've only spent $100 total. $25 on builders and $75 on boosting for pushes or finishing up buildings. I still have 1,800 left:rolleyes: You really need to learn to stop flaming me. I thought we agreed you were going to ignore me:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by ColonelForbin
Care to explain how you got a BK 10 and AQ 11 with a 591k Heroic Heist?Quote:
Originally Posted by GameloverHD
Stop lying about your prowess and I'll stop calling you out on the lies.
http://clashofclans.wikia.com/wiki/Archer_QueenQuote:
Originally Posted by ColonelForbin
http://clashofclans.wikia.com/wiki/Barbarian_King
Add it up:rolleyes: I already told you I've been playing from WAY before the profile update. I had my heroes to about 7 each I think (Sorry but my memory doesn't go back months for a video game. They could have been 8 or something). I also didn't upgrade any dark troops during this period so most of my 591K HH went towards DE troops instead of my Heroes. I can count it all out for you:rolleyes:
If all your defenses are done it is time to upgrade TH 10. Sticking around only for walls and heroes is a waste of time....unless you like that sort of thing.
Dude, I'm 99% sure that the August 2013 achievement update would NOT have affected your Heroic Heist because you hadn't maxed it. It only paused the progress on people who had already farmed their 1,000,000 by then, which you hadn't. Therefore I'm close to certain that you have farmed under 600K DE lifetime. If I'm wrong I'd love to have it explained to me how I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by GameloverHD
So as far as adding it up, a Level 11 AQ has a cumulative DE cost of 402,500 and a BK level 10 has a cumulative cost of 227,500.
That right there is more DE than you have farmed lifetime, which means you must have gemmed it.
I'm also willing to wager that your minions are level 5, thats another 100k DE. How about your hogs? golems? valks? witches?
It seems conclusive to me that you've gemmed a fair amount of DE.
Therefore I also don't buy that you farmed 430,000,000 gold prior to July 2013, then quit for some period of time and have now come back with your GG reset at 100,000,000 and have only farmed 69,000,000 gold.
If you'd farmed 430,000,000 gold in July 2013 you'd be a pretty famous farmer.
I can't be certain of the details of your GG, but when you lie about 1, 2 or 3 things, how can you expect to have any credibility on your 4th?
And I know this seems like an ad hominem attack...but I'm really just trying to get the facts straight since you dispense so much *wisdom* about things that I'm beginning to suspect you don't really know anything about.
Why do people write " maxed out " when they aren't even close :rolleyes:
Definitely TH10. Past Crystal League walls are irrelevant and Inferno Towers help protect your resources much better. Unless you're one of these cowards who hide in Silver League, then you may stay at TH9 forever if you find that fun.
What does this have to do with th9 vs th10?Quote:
Originally Posted by ColonelForbin
Because the data indicates, to me, that he gems rather than farms his resources. For the record, I'm by no means anti-gemming. I've bought gems and will possibly do so again in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by ab6c
But if you gem a large share of your resources the loot penalty for farming is less of a factor in deciding whether or not to upgrade.
While OP might not like my response, it's certainly relevant to his question.
The thing is it will be easier to farm it at town hall 9... but at the same time you want those infernos sooooo badly. Your choice. Can you farm it against town hall 9's mostly, or do you still need to attack those town hall 8's
Don't forget the drills:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ColonelForbin
Listen to me and only me: do lvl 9 walls, the th9 loot is way better then th10 so it will take less time. Are you in such hurry for the bad th10? It took me 3-4 months to finish them but you feel good after getting them done.
It seems to me that ur trying to "expose how much of a dirty gemmer he is" rather than just answer his question.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColonelForbin
I think its very annoying when people demand an explanation or proof of something completely unrelated to them. I admire the OP's patience to explain why his stats r they way they are, my response could have been a bit different.
Wow....I was offline for about an hour and missed this huge flame war about me and my gems.... Time to respond:cool:First, this has little to do with the thread but I'll dumb it down for you. I don't lie:rolleyes:. I'm not a famous farmer with 430mil...at all. Also, You seem to be forgetting that my mines go for a major portion of my loot gain. I have nothing against people who gem as it keeps the game free and the updates flowing. Does it matter if I gem or if I don't? Anyways, what are you even trying to prove? My question was "Should I upgrade to TH10?" not "Can you please prove to me exactly how many gems I have used". The amount of time you spend trying to make me look like a liar you might as well just start a thread called "Reasons GameloverHD is the worst forumer". Try doing that instead of starting arguments with me on almost every thread:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ColonelForbin
First, it makes you feel better. Second, I am maxed besides walls and heroes which few people even consider into the word "max".Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael1515
Exactly! I've been sitting on two Level 6 Drills for a while. Those things must have produced hundreds of thousands of DE during this time!Quote:
Originally Posted by daclanman
Thanks ab6c:o:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ab6c
I'm maxed on all defense and over half my walls are L9. That is more than enough for me and after our clans push this week I am scraping together the 4 million and moving up to TH10. I could care less that my heroes are still so low as all but my golem is maxed out and I'm not in any rush to get my minions to L6 so all my de can go to my heroes for a looong time.
Have to agree with other poster. You are not a great liar and stats show it. Also, if you are using hog armies non-stop that adds another kink into your twisted web considering how much 20-30 hogs are costing you each round. I could care less that people gem, I thank them every day. But lying to make yourself out to be a super-clasher is just sad and you have a habit of it.
Good luck at TH10 though, should be fun!
I don't use Hogs non-stop. I'm not trying to be a super-clasher. I know that I'm not the best or anywhere near and I don't care. It is a game and I'm having fun playing it so why do you care how I do it? Thanks for the luck and good luck to you when you reach TH10 as well:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraist
Sup brotha.
I'm too a TH9er. The feeling of being so close to them discos is a curse. I wouldn't say max everything out. What is say is: get your walls, at least around 150/250 to level 9. Get your heroes to a decent level such as 15-20. With hero abilities level 15 is actually pretty nice and way better than 10/11.
Wouldn't get ♥♥♥♥ about it and do lvl 10 walls or lvl 30 heroes. That's just making the game boring for me. Lvl 9s are bad as they are let alone 10s.
Having lvl 9 walls makes th8/9ers run away. Except if they use loonions/hogs. Still - trust me it makes a huge difference scaring people (just like lvl 3 xbows scare the f of almost everyone lol).
Do whatever you think that makes the game more enjoyable to you. But I gotta say... I always talk trash about those TH10s with lvl 3 IT and lvl 6/7 walls!! 😂🙊
Perfectly sound advice. Thanks bud!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ratcher
Do what you want. Probably best to do some walls and see how how burnt out you get. Feedback from current town hall 10's will be a lot more useful than us th9's on this topic though. Set yourself a target and see how it goes - seems to work for me!! Good luck
I meant this is a squareish game so having three of everything annoyed me.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlindHaze
Yea I was kinda hoping some TH10s would give me their opinions because I already have a TH9 opinion....myself. I'm already burnt out from Level 8 Walls. Those are the most boring things on the planet and I can't imagine Level 9+:eek:. Thanks for the luck and I'll try setting the goals. What really got me thinking was the thread by Goodguy a.k.a BuckyLastard about how easy TH10 farming is in Master III with Balloonions. I've been doing it at TH9 with moderate success but when he said that the Infernoes scare off attackers like crazy I really started thinking about the upgrade:o I've already started the upgrade. No going back now:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunkstation
Hi Mate,
I was in exact same position, maxed th9 defence and did the skulls and heroes both to lvl 15.
I decided to go to th10, and Im loving it. I use Hogs on lazy farm around 3million a day and ive progressed well with only 1 lvl3 IT and then the AD and AT left...and then i guess I will do lvl 9 walls
I dont think it makes such a difference really. being th10 you say goodbye to raiding th8s but theres still good 250k plus raids easily enough to find, plus after having that elixer wasted for ages as you maxed th9, you will enjoy an outlet for that for while! anyway my 2 cents
I owe you an apology. When you'd said yesterday that:Quote:
Originally Posted by GameloverHD
I had assumed that you started playing post android release in October.Quote:
Originally Posted by GameloverHD
I got that stuck in my head, and in light of your other exaggerations I was hasty in coming to a judgment.
Your base must have been very close to what it is now since you've farmed 69000000 since coming back and well over half of that went into the new levels of Mortars and Wiz Towers.
In July 2013, farmed TH9 bases with skull walls and maxed turrets were exceedingly rare. You must have been playing a LONG time prior to that to grind it out.
So there's still a lot that doesn't make sense to me regarding your HH and your hero/troop levels (I had overlooked your drills, but they only make up so much and I have to assume you lost some DE on defense from time to time, if only to zappers :) and we know you've been balloonioning for awhile). But there's no question that my initial assumption was way off. Regardless of whether you've gemmed some resources it's not to the extent I thought.
I'm going to continue to view your posts regarding farming with a HUGE grain of salt, (as is my prerogative) but somewhat less so than when I thought you'd only been playing since October.
Anyway, I'm enough of a man to admit when I'm wrong.
My bad, peace and Good Luck to you at TH10.
Well yea lazy farming is the chit buuut: you have to be way above average with loonions. If that's even what you'll be using.
I recently went to masters again, was hoping that because of the fact that I don't have gold EVER (fu walls) I wouldn't be raided as much as the first time I got to masters. It sucks to farm gold up there. Really. First off: 95% of the bases you find are TH10s with decent setups. Whatever, they have ITs protecting storages and I'm not using loonions to get 150k gold by hitting two storages only.
You get a lot (and I mean a loooooot of DE). Bonus + everyone having at least 1.5k available etc blablabla. Truth be told, with the same effort I get 8 mil a day at 1500-1900 whereas I get 2/3 mil tops "farming" at 2400+. Maybe I just suck. Who knows. 660k GG may not mean a thing after all! Kudos to you if you can make L9 walls up there! I stayed for a week and quit. Too bad for gold. Srs.
Both have merits.
TH10 has a superior defence, so much so you don't need hog gimmick designs, also an extra drill [+ mine/collector]
While you will almost never see loot from TH8 anymore, and a slight drop from TH9 - while you will have a better/bigger army to crack a fellow TH10.
But since the update is really close, I would wait and see what is in this update; and then decide.
I am in a similar boat with maxed defences, mostly lv 9 walls and heroes 15+. Just holding off to see what the update has.
Apology accepted bro. I love how you are always able to put some sort of snide remark about my character at the end of one of your posts. I've been playing since the game came out. I remember the waterfall:cool: I thought you were ignoring me yet you read all my posts? Interesting........... Anyways, I have never gemmed DE except for one occasion where I accidentally upgraded the AQ right after the BK. Basically I just dropped a BK upgrade and accidentally gemmed the res for the AQ upgrade which sucked:( That could be the difference but I don't think it makes up for all those numbers you were throwing at me. Honestly, I'm not the best with math and this game has tons of glitches. Cheers:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ColonelForbin
You guys are posting faster than I can reply to the posts before lol!
I'm not the best with Balloonions...at all. You say the gold up there is poor but then how does BuckyLastard from iQuit have all of his storages filled almost full-time? Man there are so many different strategies:eek: It will take forever to adjust to TH10:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ratcher
I really want that drill though. From reading loads of TH10 loot complaint threads and the responses I have understood that the Gold profits dip while the DE profit increase. I don't really hit TH8s anymore because they never have anything to offer me anyways:rolleyes: All the TH8s I find are dumping all their gold into walls or something because they are always broke:( I farm TH9s and 10s (obviously better at doing the 9s). The thing is TH10 gets no boost for a farming army besides the Level 6 Minions as I use BAM when in gold leagues and Balloonion when in Master. I don't know why to hold off. The update will probably only have things for TH10 so staying at TH9 to check it out will be useless IMO. I'm ready to see you in my TH10 boat too:o:cool: Good luck to you!Quote:
Originally Posted by daz258
I am exactly like you I have planned to not go to th 10 until there is th 11 so I'm going to completely max everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by TTTIIIMMM
Regardless of what others say, I am gonna type a wall of text. Brace yourself.
Let me start with heroes. Th 10 is THE BEST townhall for DE farming ( heroes :P )
It's the resource you don't worry with loot penalty. TH 9 with 10 % lower loot is negligible. Th 8 are mostly broke and nvm TH 7 XD plus if you are DE farming, you will be in Crystal league or masters. you won't find Th 8 anyways.
Infernos will help you greatly with DE protection(scare factor) minus the zaps LOL
I am myself not focusing on DE farming as TH 9. my only goal is to farm lavas while spending every single drop of DE on heroes ( so that i can overcome those long timed and lower cost hero upgrades and when the time is still 7 days per level but costs damn high, that's when i will actually farm DE and thats when it will pay off )
The reason i will farm DE at Th 10 is because unlike gold, you can't dump DE and keep storage empty. The losses will be too huge until and unless i have Infernos to help me out.
Now let's talk about gold.
It's one resource Th 10 cry for. Unlike DE, it's harm to come by.
Th 9 is a sweet spot to farm because you can farm two sets of walls while picking off TH 8 XD ( i do that all the time LOL )
Unlike you, i will be in a complete opposite situation. I am gonna end up with level 10 walls and with ♥♥♥♥ty defenses. but i am still gonna upgrade to TH 10 for DE farming ( i hate zaps )
But about the gold, here's my thinking. unlike DE , it's a resource you don't really need to prioritize. why? because even though walls are important, We know Attack is the way to go and Maxing heroes is much more important than walls. i know it's a weird opinion coming from a guy maxing walls lol. but read below and you will know why.
So i won't actually tell you to stick to TH 9 and max walls until you REALLY wanna stick to this game for long time (i will because i always play 1 game at a time with complete focus on it. i feel it's better to stick and be good at it rather than to suck at all :P )
Now it's upto you to decide how long you wanna stick to this game. Make decision accordingly.
Glad I could inspire you. But I have to say, farming at masters is not for everyone. With loons, you really need to master a specific type of attacking will you be able to farm at masters without spells(gems). But once you master it, the rewards can be great.
http://i.imgur.com/kuxBPZI.png
With this composition, I can attack twice an hour. The M2 win bonus adds 90k gold too. (don't mind the time between the first two raids. Been raiding while watching tv. Slows things down and took about 20 mins for that attack, but the next one came within 10 skips =_= )
Now, the offensive strength of a TH9 is not far behind and a TH9 can very well farm at this range and achieve similar results. However, a TH9 cannot lazy farm like a TH10 can. Once the TH9 logs off, it will often get attacked and get a huge chunk of its loot taken. A TH10 on the other hand, get less attacked. So it can just log off to continue with real life. Even when it does get attacked, a strong base with maxed infernos helps to keep the loot safe.
http://i.imgur.com/86avIsA.png
note: I have one elixer storage outside my base. And that DE loss was due to a zapper :mad:
This guy knows what he is talking about. Plus his forum name adds up to it :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Goodguy
You are like my CoC farming inspiration so you replying to my thread is one of the coolest things ever:o:cool: I'm learning tons from you and WILL eventually learn to do your 400K gold per raid loadout consistently. Just you wait.....I'll be joining you in iQuit and demolishing them bases up with you in no time:cool: Thanks so much for all the tips!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodguy
Lol don't start to worship me. There are more players who farm like me and many are more skilled.Quote:
Originally Posted by GameloverHD
Well you are the most down-to-earth and willing to share that I've met. You deserve your worshiping:o Hope you get some more like me:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodguy
To get your heroes up to lvl 30 from 10/11 would take more like four months of build time each if you managed to get enough dark to keep each asleep constantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zazi
I have no idea about this specific case, but don't forget the mines and drills skewing these numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColonelForbin
My wife's account is dormant from a raiding standpoint and I basically run it these days. I did simultaneous triple barracks upgrades on my account twice (12 total days) and farmed elixir on hers (well, I got a bit of gold too).
It's got a 158K Heroic Heist but with 13 combined hero levels before switching to dark troops in the lab (I could easily have the queen up another two levels if I'd preferred). This is a relatively fresh TH9 too so a few months from now we're talking quite a bit more progress with dark elixir outlays without any raiding.
We also maxed TH8 defenses on that account using mostly the mines.
There are almost no resource losses to raiders as it hovers around Silver I-II (people don't even have quality lightning spells down there to zap you with). 34K dark a week off the drills goes a really long way.
And I have already seen someone accuse that account of gemming too.
If you want to see the account (IGN: seewee), its currently in "RAHULs chat" (private chat for a minute) and usually in "Aesirian Exiles".
Anyway, I just post that as a general statement as I haven't looked into the OP here - I have no idea about him.
I tried climbing to Masters 3 with balloonions but stalled at 2300 because I ran out of Elixir but even as a TH9 in Crystal 2, its still pretty tough... I wanted to farm DE but at this level you mostly see only TH10s and when you logoff for the night you get this...Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodguy
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