The Hardest thing to accept about the trophy game for a hardcore farmer

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Originally Posted by arold

This got me thinking, a fair counter to heroes would be a new defense tower that has heroes as favorite target. It could be made available at TH8 (or even 7) and increase levels with higher TH. It should cost same as heroes though, i.e. roughly 6M DE and 230 builder days to max it completely. And it cannot be freezed.

This would be a perfect and fair counter to heroes. If someone has maxed this kind of defense, than he should win against heroes. But until then, heroes should rule, and rightly so.

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How about a simple fix.....

Allow spring traps to work on heroes and pekkas too....still allows for a better chance of a defensive win without completely making defense to OP. Or the possibility of a hero or pekka hitting a spring trap freezes them for a given amount of time.

Personally i would love to see a hero flying off the screen after hitting a spring trap....that would be awesome.

i understand eveything here. i have been playing 6 mounths now. im at lvl 96 th10. i have farmed over 500mill gold.

as long as i was farming up to th9 it was no problem. th9 in gold 3 league. i could easy farm 5-8 mill a day. ofc i did loos a few defence and lost up to 800k. but then again i an use a few raids and its all back(farming with archers\minions)

but then i got th10 and the loot was so ♥♥♥♥. (i do understand why so many stop playing)
i needed to go higher in trophies. becouse only th9 and th10 do give me a desent profit.
gold 1 was bad. so push up in crystal. im in crystal 3. and then the "fun" starts. i can use a hole day farming 2 mill gold\1mill elixsir(becouse now i need to use giants\wiz etc to farm) high costs.

then i logg off for 5 min. come back and 2 raids againts me. since they both only did 4x% and didnt take my th thats standing outside.
lost is: 800k gold and 600k elixsir.

for one week now im standing still on elixir. i have no chance to get it up. and its so hard to just farm gold. so i can upgrade the last levels on the defence.
i farmed 8 mill gold in a week. but then again. i was damn much online.

something must be change when it come to loot in the new update. or i think more ppl will stop playing.
in my mind the most activ players wil be the best players.
and not buy yourself to the topp.
the game has been so fun all the way (5mounth1week) unthil i reach th10 and the last 3 week has just been painful.
a game should only be funnyer not the other way.

last thing. sry bad english.

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Originally Posted by Kennan

i understand eveything here. i have been playing 6 mounths now. im at lvl 96 th10. i have farmed over 500mill gold.

as long as i was farming up to th9 it was no problem. th9 in gold 3 league. i could easy farm 5-8 mill a day. ofc i did loos a few defence and lost up to 800k. but then again i an use a few raids and its all back(farming with archers\minions)

but then i got th10 and the loot was so ♥♥♥♥. (i do understand why so many stop playing)
i needed to go higher in trophies. becouse only th9 and th10 do give me a desent profit.
gold 1 was bad. so push up in crystal. im in crystal 3. and then the "fun" starts. i can use a hole day farming 2 mill gold\1mill elixsir(becouse now i need to use giants\wiz etc to farm) high costs.

then i logg off for 5 min. come back and 2 raids againts me. since they both only did 4x% and didnt take my th thats standing outside.
lost is: 800k gold and 600k elixsir.

for one week now im standing still on elixir. i have no chance to get it up. and its so hard to just farm gold. so i can upgrade the last levels on the defence.
i farmed 8 mill gold in a week. but then again. i was damn much online.

something must be change when it come to loot in the new update. or i think more ppl will stop playing.
in my mind the most activ players wil be the best players.
and not buy yourself to the topp.
the game has been so fun all the way (5mounth1week) unthil i reach th10 and the last 3 week has just been painful.
a game should only be funnyer not the other way.

last thing. sry bad english.

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There must be something seriously wrong with your base if you get clobbered even in Crystal 3.

Sometimes, instead of thinking defense is getting useless, consider the fact that people becomes more and more skillful at attacking bases. It's really boring when people suddenly relies on defense. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by PedroLee

Sometimes, instead of thinking defense is getting useless, consider the fact that people becomes more and more skillful at attacking bases. It's really boring when people suddenly relies on defense. :rolleyes:

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Lol, how many extra troops are summoned by lv40 heros? Oh yeah and that new ability they get thats not super awesome either :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by billwinkiesbear

Lol, how many extra troops are summoned by lv40 heros? Oh yeah and that new ability they get thats not super awesome either :rolleyes:

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I have played this game pure defensively and offensively. Both path is awesome, but I'd rather choose the offensive part. Unfortunately, it cost a lot of money. Lucky for me I found awesome people who never gets tired funding my game.

Speaking of which, i just noticed my sig is soooooo outdated. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Foufoumoro

I disagree with you big time.

If your base is maxed and you have pretty good walls, your defence IS INDEEED OP.

I mean, yes it can be destroyed, but it's by top players with top armies.
You gotta realize that 99% of player base can't wipe a maxed th10 base !

And it's just logical that with the good army comp (the most expensive ones with maxed heroes and stuff), your defense is likely to be crushed.
It's a normal thing (neither good nor bad) that as you go up in leaderboard, attack is what matters most because it's what makes the difference between players ("skill", army price and uptime).
But up to 2600, maybe even 3200 trophies, defence DOES MATTER A LOT. Try to get to champ league with crappy def of no defence : you'll have to compensate by attacking SOOOO much, using soooo much gems !

Defence / attack is pretty well balanced imo.
Max defence seems absolutly unbeatable for 99% of army comp / player base.
And yet, of course, when you use the most expensive units in the game (GoWiWi), defence get "crushed", even though it still has a word to say in terms of being two or three starred.


i think you lost sight with how "optimized" attackers are past 3200 trophies. Thus, it's perfectly ok for defence to become less and less meaningful the higher you go in trophies.
On the other hand, long hours of farm changed the way you can progress up to 2600-3000 trophies, making your base so hard to go against.

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+1


I agree with the above. Defences is already strong enough as it is. With 3 xbows and 2 disco towers most players would not be able to take on a maxed TH 10. This is an offensive game! Attackers are supposed to win.

How demotivating would it if defense was even stronger than it is now.

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Originally Posted by Teflonsean

How about a simple fix.....

Allow spring traps to work on heroes and pekkas too....still allows for a better chance of a defensive win without completely making defense to OP. Or the possibility of a hero or pekka hitting a spring trap freezes them for a given amount of time.

Personally i would love to see a hero flying off the screen after hitting a spring trap....that would be awesome.

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You are asking to throw away a structure (here) that took almost one year and insane amount of DE to max by a simple spring trap that costs 2k gold to replace.

NO. My proposal was fair in the sense that, if a defensive structure would take the same amount of time and recurses as heroes to max then it should be able to counter heroes. Nothing else that is short of that would be acceptable or fair.