New Obstacle: Runestone

This idea features a new obstacle that would do a couple of things. One, the Runestone would begin spawning like bushes, mushrooms, trees, etc. at TH level 7 because, you guessed it, the Runestone requires DE to be cleared! It doesn't take much DE, just a bit (details later) and the Runestone also adds a passive ability.

Runestones spawn rarely. They emerge from the same ley lines that our elixir and dark elixir is collected from. These ancient stones have one of two passive abilities. Only one ability will take effect at a time (if that wasn't clear before), and the ability only matters when a village is being raided. (Interactive Environment!)

Ability 1: Runic Rage-The Runestone casts a minor rage towards any enemy troops near it, this temporarily boosts speed and attack strength while enemy units and heroes are in the ring.

Stats:

Damage Boost: 15%
Speed Boost: 10
Radius: 7 tiles

Ability 2: Ley Life- The Runestone casts a minor heal towards any friendly troops near it, this temporarily boosts health while CC troops and heroes are in its healing ring.

Stats:

Healing Total: 300
Healing per pulse: 10
Number of pulses: 30
Time between pulses: 0.2 secs
Radius: 7 tiles

Outside of battle one cannot tell which type of Runestone is in their village, so it is a risk to have any. It costs 150 DE to clear a Runestone, and it takes 2 mins. These are the exact stats of the obstacle...

Runestone:

Size: 2x2
Removal Time: 2 Minutes
Experience Gained: 10
Removal Cost: 150 Dark Elixir
Gems Gained: 0-10

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So I picture something like this. Kind of a pillar of dark stone with glowing runes. The above stone is a historical Viking Runestone!

Clash On,
~KingDao

Cool idea.

Thank you! Any questions, comments, or suggestions anyone?

~KingDao

I like this idea :)

Are you saying though that the rage helps enemy troops while the healing rune helps defending troops? I think that both should help the defending troops. That might be what you are saying and that I'm just reading it wrong XD

EDIT: It's fine that these runes have similar effects that spells have, but what if the rage was the opposite and effected enemy troops instead of defending troops? In other words, the effect would be a hidden trap-like spell instead of a hidden spell for cc/heroes? Instead of a rage it would be a "calm" trap that temporarily slows and weakens the enemy troops around it? Idk

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Originally Posted by iDANglin

I like this idea :)

Are you saying though that the rage helps enemy troops while the healing rune helps defending troops? I think that both should help the defending troops. That might be what you are saying and that I'm just reading it wrong XD

EDIT: It's fine that these runes have similar effects that spells have, but what if the rage was the opposite and effected enemy troops instead of defending troops? In other words, the effect would be a hidden trap-like spell instead of a hidden spell for cc/heroes? Instead of a rage it would be a "calm" trap that temporarily slows and weakens the enemy troops around it? Idk

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The rage helps the attacking troops NOT the defending troops. The heal helps the defending troops. Does that clarify?

~KingDao

I'm not in love with this idea. The rage effect is much worse than the heal effect is good. This in a sense is a 150 DE tax everytime it spawns because few people are going to want to keep it around. Realistically folks lure heroes and cc out anyway. Thus I'd simply lure these away from the rune stone and then drop troops on top of it after the heroes and cc were dead. If it is a rage stone i benefit. If it isn't it won't matter.

Also The whole purpose of obstacles is to give us small amounts of gems every day. Meaning they are a small bonus to the player. This idea seems out of place to me.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

I'm not in love with this idea. The rage effect is much worse than the heal effect is good. This in a sense is a 150 DE tax everytime it spawns because few people are going to want to keep it around. Realistically folks lure heroes and cc out anyway. Thus I'd simply lure these away from the rune stone and then drop troops on top of it after the heroes and cc were dead. If it is a rage stone i benefit. If it isn't it won't matter.

Also The whole purpose of obstacles is to give us small amounts of gems every day. Meaning they are a small bonus to the player. This idea seems out of place to me.

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I can see why you say that. The point of this however is to benefit all players. As for the player whose base the runestone is on, they can easily tell which runestone it is (by watching replays.) These mystic stones are also incredibly rare. (More rare than Christmas trees!) They give you more gems (if your lucky!) because it costs DE to clear them. (Which seems fair).

As for the uneven nature of the abilities, what would you suggest I do? Both of them are approx. half of what the tier 1 spell does. Should I just make the runestone summon a neutral (hits all troops) lightening storm? Or just up the heal stats some?

Thx for the feedback,
KingDao

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Originally Posted by KingDao

I can see why you say that. The point of this however is to benefit all players. As for the player whose base the runestone is on, they can easily tell which runestone it is (by watching replays.) These mystic stones are also incredibly rare. (More rare than Christmas trees!) They give you more gems (if your lucky!) because it costs DE to clear them. (Which seems fair).

As for the uneven nature of the abilities, what would you suggest I do? Both of them are approx. half of what the tier 1 spell does. Should I just make the runestone summon a neutral (hits all troops) lightening storm? Or just up the heal stats some?

Thx for the feedback,
KingDao

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My suggestion would be to roll this idea up into some sort of structure that players can build as opposed to an obstacle that randomly spawns.

i like the idea, it sounds cool to me

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Originally Posted by dahimi

My suggestion would be to roll this idea up into some sort of structure that players can build as opposed to an obstacle that randomly spawns.

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That could work well too.... Carve a runestone as a build that gives your defensive troops a passive bonus..... Could be nice.

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Originally Posted by KingDao

I can see why you say that. The point of this however is to benefit all players. As for the player whose base the runestone is on, they can easily tell which runestone it is (by watching replays.) These mystic stones are also incredibly rare. (More rare than Christmas trees!) They give you more gems (if your lucky!) because it costs DE to clear them. (Which seems fair).

As for the uneven nature of the abilities, what would you suggest I do? Both of them are approx. half of what the tier 1 spell does. Should I just make the runestone summon a neutral (hits all troops) lightening storm? Or just up the heal stats some?

Thx for the feedback,
KingDao

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My suggestion to help this issue would be that the runestone always effects just the attacking troops, or you can decide that it effects attacking and defending troops (neutral effect). With that in mind, the risk would not be who it effects (attacker or defender), but whether or not the effect is good or bad! I'm not suggesting what I'm about to say next necessarily, but let's pretend play each current spell except for the jump spell. Let's also assume for now that the spells are neutral.

Let's say the attacker lures the cc and heroes towards the rune. Once the defender's troops approach said rune, the rune turns out to be a lighting spell! The defender's tier 1 and other low health troops are gone and the stronger troops are damaged. Yay, the attacker got lucky and now has a small advantage.

Same situation, but instead of the defenders' troops activating a lightning spell, a healing spell emerged! Sure a smart attacker would either wait for the healing spell to deplete (resulting in the heroes returning to their alters though) or the attacker could lure the troops away from the spell, but either way it causes the attacker to exhaust more troops and effort in many cases.

Same situation but this time there's a rage spell! At a first glance one might think "Well this will just make the fight between the two armies go by quicker because both armies are buffed!" This would more than likely not be the case considering the stat boosts, but I won't bother blabbering on about that. The attacker could lure the defenders past the rage, in which case the rage helped the attacker prepare to take the enemy troops out faster. In short there are situations in which this spell could help either side.

Freeze spell! Let's assume that the attacker was smart and didn't place his troops near the rune but let the defending troops take on the cold. Result? Easy kills for the attacker! If the attacker instead dumps his troops into a freeze rune, well, hopefully it doesn't result in another broken device from being thrown across the room in a nerdy rage!

If we assume that the rune only effects the attacker's troops, the attacker will more than likely just send in a barb every time to see what effect it receives. If it is a helpful spell the attacker has the option to utilize it or to ignore it due to poor location. I find this idea a bit more boring compared to neutral effects, but these are my thoughts for now :) Hope this idea takes off!

EDIT: I said at the beginning that I wasn't suggesting anything. Looking back though, I guess I did ;)

A really unique idea, I'm not sure if I would agree with it or not. Even if it was added, all those adjustments to the troop's statistics would be kind of overpowered, especially if it's range is 7 tiles. If I was going to support this kind of idea, the only effect I would add to it is the healing effect, because the fact that it can heal troops literally through a stone really appeals to me.

And besides, you'd want to get rid of as many of these as possible on your base so you're enemies can't be benefited.

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Originally Posted by iDANglin

My suggestion to help this issue would be that the runestone always effects just the attacking troops, or you can decide that it effects attacking and defending troops (neutral effect). With that in mind, the risk would not be who it effects (attacker or defender), but whether or not the effect is good or bad! I'm not suggesting what I'm about to say next necessarily, but let's pretend play each current spell except for the jump spell. Let's also assume for now that the spells are neutral.

Let's say the attacker lures the cc and heroes towards the rune. Once the defender's troops approach said rune, the rune turns out to be a lighting spell! The defender's tier 1 and other low health troops are gone and the stronger troops are damaged. Yay, the attacker got lucky and now has a small advantage.

Same situation, but instead of the defenders' troops activating a lightning spell, a healing spell emerged! Sure a smart attacker would either wait for the healing spell to deplete (resulting in the heroes returning to their alters though) or the attacker could lure the troops away from the spell, but either way it causes the attacker to exhaust more troops and effort in many cases.

Same situation but this time there's a rage spell! At a first glance one might think "Well this will just make the fight between the two armies go by quicker because both armies are buffed!" This would more than likely not be the case considering the stat boosts, but I won't bother blabbering on about that. The attacker could lure the defenders past the rage, in which case the rage helped the attacker prepare to take the enemy troops out faster. In short there are situations in which this spell could help either side.

Freeze spell! Let's assume that the attacker was smart and didn't place his troops near the rune but let the defending troops take on the cold. Result? Easy kills for the attacker! If the attacker instead dumps his troops into a freeze rune, well, hopefully it doesn't result in another broken device from being thrown across the room in a nerdy rage!

If we assume that the rune only effects the attacker's troops, the attacker will more than likely just send in a barb every time to see what effect it receives. If it is a helpful spell the attacker has the option to utilize it or to ignore it due to poor location. I find this idea a bit more boring compared to neutral effects, but these are my thoughts for now :) Hope this idea takes off!

EDIT: I said at the beginning that I wasn't suggesting anything. Looking back though, I guess I did ;)

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Are you saying you want the spell to affect both the attacker and defender? Because I like think that would improve KingDao's idea. For example, a freeze spell would effect both the attacker and defender's troops.

Also, I suggest different runes have different spells. Maybe have a freeze rune, a healing rune, a rage rune, and a lightning rune. I also feel 150DE is a lot to remove the rune. Maybe 100 instead?

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Originally Posted by dahimi

My suggestion would be to roll this idea up into some sort of structure that players can build as opposed to an obstacle that randomly spawns.

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Yes, this would be cool

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Originally Posted by Isaacium

Are you saying you want the spell to affect both the attacker and defender? Because I like think that would improve KingDao's idea. For example, a freeze spell would effect both the attacker and defender's troops.

Also, I suggest different runes have different spells. Maybe have a freeze rune, a healing rune, a rage rune, and a lightning rune. I also feel 150DE is a lot to remove the rune. Maybe 100 instead?

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If there are multiple way to interpret what I said, I'm saying whichever you think is best :p