Who's to blame for Champions problems?

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Originally Posted by rjdofu

Sure you you want a competition, lets make it a competition. It's like a mountain climber who decides to climb to the very top of a mountain after he cross the finish line (along with other contestant), then complains why he has trouble breathing up there. Is the tournament company the only one to blame?
I know it's redundant, but that's just to show that your rebuttal is not very convincing.

The finish line here is champ league, or to a certain point after champ league (when things start getting ridiculous), simply because there's nothing there after champ league, just the same thing over and over again. That's the finish line, yet some people of course aren't satisfy with just that. They decide to climb higher, until they are way beyond the line and closer to the top, at all cost (gemming, more gemming and some che@ting). Of course it's gonna be harder, it's only logical.

Again, the problem here lies with both parties, not just 1. It's SC responsible for the game design, and it's the player who's responsible for going beyond the limit of the system.

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What you seem to forget or ignore is that SC control the environment they have made.

So to take your example. We have 2 mountain climbers and every 2 weeks they go into a competition to see who can climb the highest up the mountain. As they get bettter they go higher and higher until at some point the reach the top of the mountain.

Well unlike real life SC can increase the size of the mountain they can also reconfigure the routes to summit to make it harder or easier. They control all the parameters.

How could you possibley argue that its the fault of the climber because they have climbed too far ahead of the rest of the pack?

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Originally Posted by GameloverHD

Finally! C'mon, why do we have to have this flame war thread about something that will never be fixed.:rolleyes:

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And only a handful of forum users will ever experience this.

essentially, you are to blame.. for not having rich parents, or six-figure salary..

i'm in an all-champs clan and we gem max golems/witches for donations like it aint no thang.

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Originally Posted by VincentVegas

What you seem to forget or ignore is that SC control the environment they have made.

So to take your example. We have 2 mountain climbers and every 2 weeks they go into a competition to see who can climb the highest up the mountain. As they get bettter they go higher and higher until at some point the reach the top of the mountain.

Well unlike real life SC can increase the size of the mountain they can also reconfigure the routes to summit to make it harder or easier. They control all the parameters.

How could you possibley argue that its the fault of the climber because they have climbed too far ahead of the rest of the pack?

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Stop and think about it for a moment, isn't this already hard enough? Now if they make it easier, just imagine the limit going off the roof, like the animals are cut lose and let roam free. Some might not even come back to the game. More importantly, I can assure you that at some point, the exact same problem will return. Adjusting the mechanic won't fix it, since players can adapt too. That's my point, the whole thing is more dynamic than you think it is.

I really dont see why the problem will recur.

There are lots of other competions in real life that are run succesfully, why would this one differ?

By adjusting rules and parameters SC can steer this any way they like.

If I use an example of Judo. Once you reach the highest levels you will have less of a pool of opponents. If the Judo organisation holds a competion where the top players are able not to fight but still be number one. Or if the top Judo people decide with each other to lose in order to keep status quo then the association needs to step in and change the rules.

The fault for the competition being wrong is with the organisers.

everyone has their limitations, I find it ridiculous that people are spending so much time, energy, and money in trying to be at the top of the leaderboard. its worth trying, but its not worth pulling your hair out and starting an argument for. why cant people be satisfied with having a great clan and base rather than testing their limitations and going too high up? I'm not saying you should be a coward or a lazy clasher, but you cant be careless about these things. trying to be at the top is kind of like seeing who can lose the most body parts. you might be victorious in the end but you totally ignore the consequences and the after-math of it all and the struggles you go through just to prove yourself right and others wrong.

/sigh

Again, another blame thread about the problems in Champ League,
started by a Champion...

Wait. a.. minute...

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Originally Posted by maggiep0tat0

/sigh

Again, another blame thread about the problems in Champ League,
started by a Champion...

Wait. a.. minute...

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The little (2 hours in clouds & counting) Potatroll

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It it is NOT a blame thread, just facts I think show why both parties are unintentionally at fault. And I'm not a champion, as you can tell by my sig. So, before you comment, try to read again.

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Originally Posted by jjjjj2

essentially, you are to blame.. for not having rich parents, or six-figure salary..

i'm in an all-champs clan and we gem max golems/witches for donations like it aint no thang.

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holmes just flipped the table on yall. gem it up and climb to champs so they can has raids!

but seriously if you wanna pay for me to max out ill come play the shell game.

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Originally Posted by 789firespawn

It it is NOT a blame thread, just facts I think show why both parties are unintentionally at fault. And I'm not a champion, as you can tell by my sig. So, before you comment, try to read again.

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Well instead of being stingy and defensive about it, you could thank her for her input.:rolleyes: