Tiny Ringus-an early-mid th 8 anti-giant/ anti hog setup, inspired by peabaks ringus

Attention, this base is not properly tested yet, so if you don't like experiments, stop reading here =)
If you are aware of that and willing to test this base with me, just go on =)

This design could be a good design for an early (and almost maxed) th 8 or an epic fail, don't know yet =)

Hey Forum members,

For my mini-account I needed a good th 8 setup, which also works against those lvl 6 (mini tanks) giants.
I thought there are not enough anti-giant/anti-hog bases, for early th 8.

Th8 is a hard time, especially when you just finished upgrading, even from a fully maxed th7. Those lvl 6 giant/healer combos are undefendable, not even thinking about hogs.

So I decided to modify peabaks famous ringus. It was not that easy, as th8 doesn't have enough defenses nor walls to make a proper ringus design, but I think it's pretty close =)

Have a look here
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...eansing-Design

By early I DO NOT mean a premmie or rushed th8, but when you come from a (mostly) maxed th 7, this base should work against the most common armys in gold 3-1. I even recommend to stay on your th 7 base setup till you got the new defenses on paar with the old ones, then it's time for a th 8 design.

I've seen some decent th8 bases (trapception, tempest, shuriken, pokeball, ttp, etc.), but they are either overused, or work best for at least advanced or almost maxed th8.

This is where my (I call it) tiny ringus setup is getting interesting.

Of course it won't be as effectiv as the th 9 ringus, as you don't have the 2 xbows, 4th tessla, 4th WT and 25 walls are missing, but I think it could be kind of useful against those defense orientated armys.

I made 2 versions.

NEW V2

http://i.imgur.com/FQLoheW.png


Older Versions:

1. Farming version

http://i.imgur.com/FyKE4fx.jpg

advantages:

- cc completly unlurable
- staggered junctions
- you can swap around the defenses as you like, which is very useful especially when you upgrade them (as you can see I have 4 defenses upgrading at the moment)
- at least 2 giant bombs together, nice against hogs
- you can swap cc and de storage to even better protect de (attention: makes the cc lurable)

This is the original version, without any defenses upgrading

http://i.imgur.com/OJNvcrG.jpg

2. Transformer version:

http://i.imgur.com/7XCMGUq.jpg


Same advantages as mentioned above for farming version:
- simpy switch between farming and trophy version, just replace th with de drill and replace the drill with any collector
- you can swap th and cc if you prefer (attention: this makes the cc lurable)


I honestly prefer the farming version, as the funnel might work better, due to big "entrances" of transformer version the giant might not activate the spring trap. (Perhaps should rearrange these spring traps)

I just "created" both versions, so they are not properly tested yet, but they are pretty close to the ringus design. I just hope they serve me as well as ringus did to my main account.

Please DO NOT expect wonders from this base, there is no miraculous th 8 base out there (and probably will never be, till SC gives us at least a xbow, and still...)
You should also be aware that in the early stages of th 8 you will have to upgrade a lot of defenses which leaves you pretty vulnerable.

The main goal is not to win defenses, but to limit the damage. I've never been on a serious trophy hunt, and I'm not planning to do.
So if a lvl 6 giant attack finishes with only 3 or (max) 4 out of 7 storages, I consider this a win =)

Any feedback is highly appreciated =)

The 1st Defense log so far, please keep in mind, that I have 4 defenses upgrading and the rest of the defense is far from being maxed, as mentioned above =)

http://i.imgur.com/jyPyhOX.jpg

1. Barch attack, not really dangerous, wanted my gold and took one storage
2. Well, this was a th snipe and then tried to get some ressources - failed
3. Puh, this was by far the hardest attack since I reached th 8. NOTHING any TH 8 base could have done against this army. I mean 32 lvl 6 balloons + lvl 4 minions. This army is used in master and even champ to 1 or 2 star a maxed th 10 base. Perhaps if all my ADs are maxed and the rest of the defense like AT, WT and HT are close to max I would have stand a chance, but I don't think so.
So yeah a bad loss but I wouldn't call the base a fail due to that attack.


Replay update 22.03.2014

http://i.imgur.com/p4liUEj.jpg

Not too much to mention, 2 heavy armies, didn't standy any chance.
yy.ko: there I figured the flaw in the base, as too much hogs entered the core

http://i.imgur.com/7zYlSYk.jpg

myflyty: This one upset me, how can a simple bag army take 5 out of 7 storages. Mortars down =(

http://i.imgur.com/e0lrcrO.jpg

Last one zapped de, otherwise nothing special

http://i.imgur.com/jtEn2lA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fTWGyeS.jpg

2 attacks within 3 mins.
3. didn't get much, but got all the traps
2. ly: no more active traps, didn't stand a chance.

http://i.imgur.com/l8HUeqJ.jpg

Shuriken setup

http://i.imgur.com/b8qzyJI.jpg

Shuriken setup

http://i.imgur.com/wqvGlXn.jpg

jean: didn't get much, AD upgrading, so it's okay

http://i.imgur.com/rcQDFe3.jpg

as you can see, nothing interesting to mention, but you see storages are full =)

edit:
I wanted to properly test the base, before I present it here, but as I will be very busy next week and probably the week after, I decided to give it a go now.

edit2:
I don't know how to record replays on an ipad air, so if you know a good app, let me know and I can post some reviews here.
If someone knows how to hide(spoil) on this forum, please post the bbc code =) Way too much pics here now

Looks like a solid th8 base, keep the defense logs updated

by writing the OP I got attacked once more...

http://i.imgur.com/rM07PRQ.jpg

Don't know what I should think about this defense. Am happy and not at the same time. 57% is not too much, but he(or she) took 5 storages, this is a no go.
I could just say once more, my defenses are upgrading, rest is very weak, but thats why I wanted to try this design...

The giants went around the base and were springtapped or shot as supposed
The main problem, those lvl 5 wizards (must have missed when they became so popular in gold 3, I think this was another overnight army - they can't be one shoted and a healing spell behind, they are very strong) as they headed towards the core and boom.

At the moment I'm sitting on almost full storages to attrackt these heavy farming armies to properly test my base. If storages are almost empty perhaps he would have skipped, who knows...
Perhaps on another design they would have taken everything or nothing, once more, who knows =9

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Originally Posted by snail88

Looks like a solid th8 base, keep the defense logs updated

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Thanks ;)

I looks like, but has to proof itself...

I will keep the logs as updated as possible. As I mentioned, very busy next week...
So if anyone is willing to jump in and test the base with me, you're very welcome =)

A lot of your defense buildings are still in TH7 level, that could explain why you're facing difficulties fending off attacks. Once the defenses are more upgraded, I think this design might work alright.

It probably won't be as effective against hogs obviously, since th8s don't have xbows, but against giant armies should be quite an annoyance.

Thank you once more snail ;) highly appreciate it

I'm well aware that my defenses are still very weak, as I said I just reached th 8 about 2 weeks ago, and I'm not expecting wonders. The combination low defenses and full storages make me very interesting :D

There is not base out there yet for early th8, that can really defend against a strong th9 or even th 10 army.
That's why I tried to create/modify one. As well as the original ringus, the tiny ringus doesn't work well with too weak defenses, but I hope it can as well minimize the damage and loss.

So my main goal now is to upgrade the defenses in the core/heart, cause this is the most important part in this setup, and I'm sure once I get all 3 mortars and AD to lvl 6 ( and of course the rest of the defenses), I will start to see the results (hopefully) =)

I'll keep you postet =)

Hey! I love the original Ringus layout but i'm at th8. I was using trapception (that works very well for me) and during last weeks i realize that i was facing two tipes of attacks: th snipes and giant-healer. So…why don't participate to this experiment?

This is my base right now
http://imgur.com/QuLG64Q
I'm planning to bank 4 mil in next 24 hours…let's see what happens :cool:

P.S.
How can i post big images? Using "Insert Image" button i receive an error message

Hey stimmed, welcome aboard =)

I've just checked your base, you have a liitle advantage already as all your mortars are maxed. This will help a lot.

Regarding the 3rd layer of tiny ringus, you modified it a bit, and I see 2 "problems"

1. If I'm right, you have a 3x3 space between the tesslas and the AT, so your enemies can deploy troups directly in the layer - this could be fatal.

2. I organised the 3rd layer like this, to have several spots to place 2 giant bombs together, as this is the only weapon against hos. The attackers are not supposed to know if, and where are the giant bombs and tesslas, so hopefully he will thow the heal spells on the wrong places.
Remember 2 lvl 3 giant bombs will directly kill lvl4 hogs and leave lvl 5 hogs very weak. Ideally one mortar shot or WT shotarrives just in time this will kill lvl 5 hogs, if the attacker doesn't heal with a spell fast enough.

Glad you joined my experiment =)

P.S.To upload big images, you upload to imgur and you take embed code. Just copy the bbc code (starting with [IMG] complety in the line where you want the pic. No need to use insert image ;)

I have already realized i had some holes so i rearranged things :D

http://i.imgur.com/QuLG64Q.jpg

So are you saying i have to put 2 giants bomb close each other?

P.S. Thx for images (as u can see :cool:)

No my friend you don't need to put 2 giant bombs together.
But this is a big plus against hogs in the original ringus, and I like to keep that detail =) unfortunately we only have 3 of them =(
So try your setup, and if this doesn't work, you can still try my version :p

The changes you made to the 3x3 squares are perfect now, but it's still somewhat easy to devine where the tesslas are, as there are only 3 spaces inside the base left.

The base looks solid man, but the funnels are kinda wrong so you might wanna fix those :D

Since i made my tiny ringus i have faced these attacks (there was +250 k gold available)

http://i.imgur.com/pSqwK8m.png

It looks cool man. The funnels might look effective

Some updates: apparently nobody (in gold III) can stole more than 1 gold + 1 elixir storages. With more than 300k gold available i've never lost more than 90k. The base works (obviously) great against giants and level 6 mortars in the center can take care of archers and barbs. On the other sides wizard towers aren't very useful…but hey, i'm very satisfied

P.S. Now i've swapped gold and elixir storages because i feel they are more protected behind a wizard tower…let's see!

Defence log since I changed to this :)

http://i.imgur.com/L0cVxog.png

I'm testing this base at 1500-1600 trophy range

Hmm... It will be interesting to see the results.

This is a repost from the original Ringus thread.

I noticed that there have been a couple of TH8 Ringus attempts, with tschulieh's excellent version being posted only a couple of days ago. Thought I'd post my version too, with some defense history.

My core is slightly smaller because I wanted to have my Tesla's there as the last line of defense, inspired by a few previous TH9 versions. At the end my core had three level 6 Hidden Tesla's, which worked really nicely. Space means then that after CC and DE there is only space for two Mortar's and two ADs, but it seemed to hold OK. When I built it first in early February I was pretty close to fully maxed TH8, which really helped. Its been a while since I upgraded to TH9 at the end of Feb but I remember hitting a dozen TH snips in a row farming around Gold II. Unfortunately I could only find screen caps of five defenses. I will have to be more diligent in the future. Finally, I will say that my *cough* baby account *cough* (which is still pretty green defense-wise) still uses this base. I might give tschulieh's non-Tesla version a run at some stage.

Second try at posting pics. Might work this time.

http://i.imgur.com/ipG4Otl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RyCGM3l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ujasN2r.jpg

Hi, this is my first forum post; so I hope I'm doing this correctly. The Tiny Ringus design is interesting. My splash and AD are maxed and I will switch to this design during point defense and tesla upgrades. Thanks for posting the design!

Hey clasher,

nice to see that my thread wasn't completely forgotten during this week, and even nicer to see, that more user joined my little project =) I would highly appreciate it, if you could continue sharing your experiences.

As mentioned, I was very busy this week, but I kept on clashing, and beeing crashed - sometimes =)

During this week I upgraded 2 mortars to max, 1 WT (2nd finishes tomorrow) and more stuff I can't remember.

I will update the OP with more defense logs and it won't be very nice to see.
2 Mortars in the core upgrading, simply doesn't work with tiny ringus.
On (I think) tuesday I switched back to shuriken till yesterday, when both mortars finished. Wasn't much better, but a little.
I can't remember all the replays, those were way too much, but I will comment some, that I remember.

By watching the replays, especially those with the hogs, I figured a flaw in the base, cause the hogs jumped into the core too soon. I (hopefully) fixed that with V2. The problem was too much distance, between the tesslas and the canon, so instead of following the ring, they broke into the core, and everything was over quite fast.
I rearranged the tesslas/AT/canons and this should solve the prob.
Since yesterday (when the mortars finished) I haven't had a hog visit, so perhaps this still won't work, need to wait =)

So here is already the V2, rest in OP.

http://i.imgur.com/FQLoheW.png

Hi tschulieh! Are you experiencing hogs? How many trophies have you got?
I've continued testing my version of tiny ringus and i feel there is a problem with the core…we don't have xbows so when some units arrive to the center mortars can't do much. As soon as my teslas arrive to lvl 4 i wanna try to rearrange the core, putting them in place of the storage and drill (or drill and an AD)…

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Originally Posted by stimmedNerd

Hi tschulieh! Are you experiencing hogs? How many trophies have you got?
I've continued testing my version of tiny ringus and i feel there is a problem with the core…we don't have xbows so when some units arrive to the center mortars can't do much. As soon as my teslas arrive to lvl 4 i wanna try to rearrange the core, putting them in place of the storage and drill (or drill and an AD)…

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Put Archer Towers in the core.

Here are my only 3 attacks so far. Two TH snipes and one "real" attack of that wasn't executed very well and didn't touch any storages. I moved an archer tower to the core in place of the pump. I may try 2 towers and kick out an AD.

Is there a finalized trophy version with the teslas in the core?

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Originally Posted by Sphinx

Is there a finalized trophy version with the teslas in the core?

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I've started using a modified version of this base and it works very well. I tried the teslas in the core but their range isn't enough to make maximum use of them.

i might try a modified version of this up in C1

This is an awesome base, you will still get 3 starred tho :p