Posting as last effort with Coc :( :( hoping game programmer/employee sees this

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Originally Posted by GameloverHD

Upgrade and try it out;) You won't like the change. TH10 is in a sinking ship though. I don't plan on going because the loot is impossibly poor.:mad:

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TH10 is fine. The long build times actually make it pretty easy to keep your builders busy.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

Can either of you quote your sources on this or are you just trying to flame? What you've both implied is of a serious nature and would require a factual basis to be believed. Its more likely that you both do not understand what you are discussing and due to fear/misunderstanding you are mischaracterizing SC to support that irrationality.

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You want quotes? Is it "serious nature" now?lol

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Originally Posted by SuperSteve[Supercell]

There are no planned changes to the loot system at the moment. Our dev. update on the matter still stands. We'll continue to monitor the situation.

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Originally Posted by SuperSteve[Supercell]

Looking at the statistics, there has only been a small increase in the use of the Next Button since the changes to the loot system. We realize that the experience is different from everyone, and that this result may surprise you and contradict your own experience, but is what the numbers tell us.

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Originally Posted by Rawdoggie

Loot is functioning as they designed. Any increases in pressing Next is simply our perception.
Supercell's unshared data shows everything is working wonderfully & loot is higher than ever before.

if there is any loot draught, it is our own fault of being in the wrong trophy range, raiding at the wrong time of day, using the wrong army composition, expecting too much, etc etc.

Supercell has said this, so it must be true.

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Originally Posted by superclash99

No, they already said loot and nexting are working as expected, no changes are planned, but they are monitoring closely. lol

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So we have here are you guys interpreting these quotes. Here is mine.

Yeah they are happy with the designed loot.
Your taking his rebuttal of the nexting argument/data to an extreme in an attempt to support arguments.
Yes they say data shows a small increase in loot.
Does not say to change your play style at all or that you are expecting too much....

Says they are going to further investigate loot and nexting. So please stop flaming, my original comment stands.

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Originally Posted by SuperSteve[Supercell]

There are no planned changes to the loot system at the moment. Our dev. update on the matter still stands. We'll continue to monitor the situation.

As far as increased use of the "Next" button, I am personally quite concerned about this and hope we can take a close look at that in the coming days. Things have been a little out of sync with the holidays, a few bouts with Influenza and the hard work going into upcoming updates, but hope to have more news soon.

I appreciate your patience, and realize it's probably stretched pretty thin at this point. I hope to have more info on Next Button usage soon.

Steve

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Originally Posted by SuperSteve[Supercell]

Looking at the statistics, there has only been a small increase in the use of the Next Button since the changes to the loot system. We realize that the experience is different from everyone, and that this result may surprise you and contradict your own experience, but is what the numbers tell us.

As such, we have decided to revisit this in the near future, but don't see any viable solution for the time being that would not be simply reactive - as in, we'd rather create a trophy and loot system that is as closed to perfect as possible instead of making quick changes and short-term solutions.

Essentially what I am saying is that the trophy and loot systems are constant works in progress, and we'll continue looking into making the right changes and adjustments to create the best experience possible for the largest amount of players possible. For the time being, we are not planning to address the increase in "Nexting" but we will take a look again in the near future at other ways to address this problem.

-Steve

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The Loot thing has been addressed again since then.

Any news on when the "moaning about loot" sub-forum will launch?

Just move up in trophies .. master 2 is SO RIPE with loot x3

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

So we have here are you guys interpreting these quotes.

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Huh? It literally says:

"There are no planned changes to the loot system at the moment. Our dev. update on the matter still stands. We'll continue to monitor the situation."

No interpretation here, but......

....I know, my bad. I didn't know I was arguing with a fanboy here, which is pointless (and your reply to my quotes is proof of this).

So you said

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Originally Posted by superclash99

No, they already said loot and nexting are working as expected, no changes are planned, but they are monitoring closely. lol

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Show me the 2 are equal please. Try to do it without characterizing me as a demon fan boy thereby trying to negate my argument.
They say there are no changes planned ATM =/= working as expected. You are also trying to take it out of context which is why I imagine you edited his quote in your original reply.

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Originally Posted by superclash99

Huh? It literally says:

"There are no planned changes to the loot system at the moment. Our dev. update on the matter still stands. We'll continue to monitor the situation."

No interpretation here, but......

....I know, my bad. I didn't know I was arguing with a fanboy here, which is pointless (and your reply to my quotes is proof of this).

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

So you said

Show me the 2 are equal please. Try to do it without characterizing me as a demon fan boy thereby trying to negate my argument.
They say there are no changes planned ATM =/= working as expected. You are also trying to take it out of context which is why I imagine you edited his quote in your original reply.

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You are arguing because of "working as expected"? LOL

I think it is save to say that a new system which will not be changed is mostly working as expected. This is common sense, exactly what fanboys lack.

Neverthelss, since I don't want to search for a quote stating "working as expected" I edited my initial post:

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Originally Posted by superclash99

No, they already said no changes are planned for loot and nexting issues, but they are monitoring closely. lol

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My post still stands.

I can't even read this stuff anymore...

Hi Coathanger, i found this regarding our perceived increase in Next'ing:

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Originally Posted by SuperSteve[Supercell]

There is always room for improvement in Clash of course, but improvement implies going forwards and not backwards. We definitely won't be reverting to the previous loot system as we are confident that the new one works better overall, even with the issues.


We'll considering future changes to the system as time permits and when appropriate. Like I said we're checking out possible problems and changes to be made around the perceived increase in the Next Button's usage, but can't promise anything at this point.


-Steve

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This comes from the Thread Lack of Communication, posted here in General back in January. He clarifies that 'it's good to back up anecdotal evidence with analytical data', but we are not allowed to see any data other than creating our own.