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March 12th, 2014
joebates26

Dragon AI

Will we ever see Dragons get a better AI? I know that this has been discussed and SuperCell stated there would be some AI changes coming but I would like to know if Dragons are a part of this change? Thanks
March 12th, 2014
M0NEY

I like the dragons AI. Group them in a spot close to a couple AD and hit them with rage they will fan out on there own and both AD will be gone quickly, then you'll usually have the core of a base destroyed befor having to cross your fingers that they will get into the AD on the other side of the base for a 3 star.
What do you want different? Dragons that target defences first would be way worst then hogs.
March 12th, 2014
sj74

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Originally Posted by M0NEY

I like the dragons AI. Group them in a spot close to a couple AD and hit them with rage they will fan out on there own and both AD will be gone quickly, then you'll usually have the core of a base destroyed befor having to cross your fingers that they will get into the AD on the other side of the base for a 3 star.
What do you want different? Dragons that target defences first would be way worst then hogs.

Are you crazy! Dragons that prioritise defenses would be unstoppable!
March 12th, 2014
M0NEY

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Originally Posted by sj74

Are you crazy! Dragons that prioritise defenses would be unstoppable!

Wasn't asking for that at all like I said I like dragons the way they are
March 12th, 2014
lanesteele240

Drags have adhd worse the. The barb king. They would follow a squrell off into the path if something else would not catch there eye
March 12th, 2014
NioTheDreamer

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Originally Posted by joebates26

Will we ever see Dragons get a better AI? I know that this has been discussed and SuperCell stated there would be some AI changes coming but I would like to know if Dragons are a part of this change? Thanks

Nothing personal, but I hate when people complain about the AI of the dragon and PEKKA. Just they are as smart as a barbarian, but hey barbarians are pretty good if used correctly.

This is why I like to bring along minions. I use them to clear specific buildings to basically herd the dragons towards my target. Honestly I prefer to bring 30-40 minions along rather than have those extra dragons. If you deploy carefully, avoid wizard towers and check for traps - then they bring allot of DPS and speed.

If you do this you can generally avoid the stupid giant circle thing that dragons often do.
March 12th, 2014
clashofclanspro

I say that they need to change the dragon AI so they attack walls and only walls, they also need to decrease their health to 20 or so.
March 12th, 2014
Michaelyoda

Personally the only change I would want to the dragon is for it to stop targeting the barb king(on offense).
March 12th, 2014
joebates26

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Originally Posted by M0NEY

I like the dragons AI. Group them in a spot close to a couple AD and hit them with rage they will fan out on there own and both AD will be gone quickly, then you'll usually have the core of a base destroyed befor having to cross your fingers that they will get into the AD on the other side of the base for a 3 star.
What do you want different? Dragons that target defences first would be way worst then hogs.

True, and I am ok with this. My biggest complaint is when they hit the core they usually focus on one or two defenses then they go to the Left or Right. I would like them to finish the core before taking off somewhere else.

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Originally Posted by lanesteele240

Drags have adhd worse the. The barb king. They would follow a squrell off into the path if something else would not catch there eye

With Rage they can do damage but they are pretty sporadic.
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Originally Posted by NioTheDreamer

Nothing personal, but I hate when people complain about the AI of the dragon and PEKKA. Just they are as smart as a barbarian, but hey barbarians are pretty good if used correctly.

I am not complaining. I just asked a simple question. Sorry if you felt I was complaining.

This is why I like to bring along minions. I use them to clear specific buildings to basically herd the dragons towards my target. Honestly I prefer to bring 30-40 minions along rather than have those extra dragons. If you deploy carefully, avoid wizard towers and check for traps - then they bring allot of DPS and speed.

If you do this you can generally avoid the stupid giant circle thing that dragons often do.

I will try this. Thank you for the helpful advice.

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Originally Posted by Michaelyoda

Personally the only change I would want to the dragon is for it to stop targeting the barb king(on offense).

Haha. I doubt we will see this happen but I would like to see Dragons focus on an area and once all the defenses/buildings are gone they move on to the items that are closer to them. My biggest problem is they get to the core and they take out one defense and they spread out again. Can be frustrating at times but it is only a game.
March 12th, 2014
rhaegar13

Favorite Target: Town Halls ;)
March 12th, 2014
GameloverHD

I hate it when people complain about troops and their AI. If you knew their AI, you can master it and then use every last bit to your advantage. I use the opponents Archer Queen to lure their Clan Castle troops. Instead of complaining about my troops AI, I figured out a way to overcome it. Not that difficult people get over it.
March 12th, 2014
BrainZ

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Originally Posted by Michaelyoda

Personally the only change I would want to the dragon is for it to stop targeting the barb king(on offense).

Totally true.
March 12th, 2014
Raindragon

I LOVE the dragons. They kick butt and have a mind of their own. They will always surprise you. Just when you think you know what they're gonna do...they turn around and go the opposite way. :D
March 12th, 2014
Gremlin4

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Originally Posted by Raindragon

I LOVE the dragons. They kick butt and have a mind of their own. They will always surprise you. Just when you think you know what they're gonna do...they turn around and go the opposite way. :D

Dragons and PEKKAs need to meet up and have coffee :rolleyes:
March 12th, 2014
maggiep0tat0

Hmm... odd though... an entire clan of dragon lovers sitting in the Leaderboards seem to disagree... :rolleyes:

But seriously, I've seen those babies do some serious damage in the right hands.

I suppose the key is just mastering the AI. :)

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The little (still a little upset over her last dragon defense) Potatroll :(
March 12th, 2014
BonbeeTyrael

Considering I'm almost maxed out and I just got almost 2 starred when a guy just spammed all his dragons in one spot without luring my cc or heroes, I think dragons are fine now. Of course this player is top200 and known for their dragon attacks.
March 12th, 2014
facescraper

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Originally Posted by maggiep0tat0

Hmm... odd though... an entire clan of dragon lovers sitting in the Leaderboards seem to disagree... :rolleyes:

But seriously, I've seen those babies do some serious damage in the right hands.

I suppose the key is just mastering the AI. :)

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The little (still a little upset over her last dragon defense) Potatroll :(

Spot on. Takes a bit of practice and like every troop they have a certain way they behave. Don't dump them all in one spot or a small line. Take the time to drop them individually. Clear outside buildings with one or two so others placed behind will go in instead of around. Predict their path and Rage them with that in mind. I see a lot of guys Rage them only to see them fly off in another direction because the Rage was poorly placed. They've had a few tweaks lately and they are really strong now, especially on bases with disco inferno's.
March 12th, 2014
nesnnesn

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Originally Posted by Michaelyoda

Personally the only change I would want to the dragon is for it to stop targeting the barb king(on offense).

Minions do the same thing. :(

SC should change the AI so dragons and minions do not target the BK on offense.
March 12th, 2014
ZomDog

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Originally Posted by sj74

Are you crazy! Dragons that prioritise defenses would be unstoppable!

Lol that would be insanity
March 12th, 2014
BonbeeTyrael

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Originally Posted by nesnnesn

Minions do the same thing. :(

SC should change the AI so dragons and minions do not target the BK on offense.

Or witch skeletons still in the core. I'd be down with not having my troops go chasing stuff that cant hurt them to the core so they dont get wasted.
March 12th, 2014
ZomDog

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

Considering I'm almost maxed out and I just got almost 2 starred when a guy just spammed all his dragons in one spot without luring my cc or heroes, I think dragons are fine now. Of course this player is top200 and known for their dragon attacks.

I agree I think that they are fine
March 12th, 2014
Fros

Drag AI is fine
March 12th, 2014
Michaelyoda

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Originally Posted by sj74

Are you crazy! Dragons that prioritise defenses would be unstoppable!

Aerial hog riders...
Only better.;)
March 12th, 2014
BonbeeTyrael

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Originally Posted by Michaelyoda

Aerial hog riders...
Only better.;)

So...balloons?
March 12th, 2014
facescraper

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

So...balloons?

Haha... Indeed. :rolleyes:
March 12th, 2014
Danvadary

Drag already balance between offen n deff, if it attack deff thats very OP
March 13th, 2014
joebates26

Thanks for all the comments and helpful tips. I love when people think people who post threads are instantly complaining about something. I appreciate the ones that actually try to help in a situation like this. It is clear that I need to practice my Dragon skills Haha. One more question and this may push the thread to a different category. Should I use 3 max Rage and 2 freeze spells or two Rage and three freeze? Both are maxed. Appreciate any more advice I could get.
March 13th, 2014
joebates26

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Originally Posted by Gremlin4

Dragons and PEKKAs need to meet up and have coffee :rolleyes:

Classic comment. Love it.
March 13th, 2014
KingRyan1120

What

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Originally Posted by clashofclanspro

I say that they need to change the dragon AI so they attack walls and only walls, they also need to decrease their health to 20 or so.

Did anyone else read this comment? Lol
March 13th, 2014
BonbeeTyrael

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Originally Posted by KingRyan1120

Did anyone else read this comment? Lol

It belongs in someone's sig.
March 13th, 2014
Nickroge

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Originally Posted by clashofclanspro

I say that they need to change the dragon AI so they attack walls and only walls, they also need to decrease their health to 20 or so.

Walls????? That makes no sense to me sorry lol
March 13th, 2014
LilWayneClashOfClans

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Originally Posted by joebates26

Will we ever see Dragons get a better AI? I know that this has been discussed and SuperCell stated there would be some AI changes coming but I would like to know if Dragons are a part of this change? Thanks

Dragons are just winged lizards, don't expect them to have too much brains. But on real terms, I think dragons should only target defenses first.
March 13th, 2014
joebates26

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Originally Posted by LilWayneClashOfClans

Dragons are just winged lizards, don't expect them to have too much brains. But on real terms, I think dragons should only target defenses first.

Defense only would be nice.
March 13th, 2014
CaesarII

Changing the Dragons AI to Defense First would be ridiculous.

You would have to make AD/Archer Towers to x2-x4 damage on dragons to somewhat nerf that
March 13th, 2014
Coathanger

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Originally Posted by joebates26

Defense only would be nice.

For sure. I could give up facerollin and go with a much simpler tactic.

3 people in favor of the motion and it passes. Might as well update the patch notes now.