Fiery themed dark elixir troop: The Salamander

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Originally Posted by sargeantzeal

requires dark barrack lvl 6
dark barrack lvl 6: Requires town hall level 10, 3 million elixir, 10 days.

Background: After many millenias of surviving the harsh heat of volcanic environment, these reptiles(edit: Correction; amphibians) have evolved with the ability not only to thrive in extreme heat, but are able to generate heat enough to even melt metal. Cousins of the mighty dragons, they are able to manipulate intense heat and use it against any threat.

Description: Powerful ground dwelling dragonkin that has lost their ability of flight after generations of surviving underground in volcanic environment.

What it looks like: A salamander-like creature crawling on all four with orange-red skin and fiery glowing eyes. Have a pair of tiny wings on its back.

statistics

ground troop
hitpoints: 2250; 2450; 2700

movement speed:20

attack: Flame beams; shoots out beams of intense heat at up to three targets within range, healing effects are blocked by the intense heat. Primary beam’s intensity doubles after 3 seconds focusing on the same target and resets when switching primary target. Secondary beams’ damage will always stay the same. Only primary beam can target walls. Two beams cannot target the same target simultaneously.

Damage per second: Primary beam: 120-240; 150-300; 190-380

secondary beams: 120; 150; 190

attack speed: N/a

attack range: Pimary beam 3 tiles, secondary beams 4 tiles.

Housing: 25

training cost: 500; 600; 700 dark elixir

training time: 30 minutes

upgrading cost: 80000; 100000 dark elixir

upgrading time: 12; 14 days

abilities:
1. Fiery blood: Any targets within melee range of the salamander will take damage constantly. Does 20; 25; 30 dps to any ground targets within melee range of the salamander.

2. Fire eater: Beams from inferno towers and other salamanders also heals the salamander for 100; 120; 150 healing per second on top of its damage done to the salamander, this healing effect is not blocked by intense heat. (single target inferno towers can out damage this healing effect after a few seconds but multi target disco infernos will actually be healing the salamander for its entire time targeting it)

3. Cold vulnerability: Instantly destroyed if affected with the freeze spell.

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grrr u parcticly stole my idea!!!!!! Mine is the thermal lizard!!!!!!!dont steal it is not nice!!!!😠

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Originally Posted by player35542190

grrr u parcticly stole my idea!!!!!! Mine is the thermal lizard!!!!!!!dont steal it is not nice!!!!😠

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Tbh, i dont even know anything about a thermal thing you posted. Your idea involved something about a 1:1000 chance of spawning something else. And the other is something about ice lizard. I'm not the first person in the world that made something out of popular fantasy, and neither are you my friend.

I at least tried to put some statistics on it, and yes this is not an original idea. I got it from mixing the fireproof salamander myth (google it), thrown in a mobile mixed-mode inferno tower idea and added it with an ability to counter multi target disco inferno.

And it is also not nice accusing people of stealing ideas, im sure 'thermal lizard' has been tought by someone else even before you, as a salamander has been tought of by someone else before me.

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Originally Posted by SargeantZeal

Tbh, i dont even know anything about a thermal thing you posted. Your idea involved something about a 1:1000 chance of spawning something else. And the other is something about ice lizard. I'm not the first person in the world that made something out of popular fantasy, and neither are you my friend.

I at least tried to put some statistics on it, and yes this is not an original idea. I got it from mixing the fireproof salamander myth (google it), thrown in a mobile mixed-mode inferno tower idea and added it with an ability to counter multi target disco inferno.

And it is also not nice accusing people of stealing ideas, im sure 'thermal lizard' has been tought by someone else even before you, as a salamander has been tought of by someone else before me.

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But has the thermal lizard been mentioned in forums before...? NOPE!

Great idea dude I really like it!

Couple of things I'd change though. I'd make it available at dark barracks level7 because the pattern goes 2 new dark troops at each th level. For example: minis&hogs at th7, valks and golems at th8 and witch and..... At th9 meaning the next dark troop would probably come out at th9 and this troop is definatly more suited to th10!

And also to maybe balance discos it could be immune to inferno towers?

Just my suggestions, hope you like em!

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Originally Posted by J1M808

Great idea dude I really like it!

Couple of things I'd change though. I'd make it available at dark barracks level7 because the pattern goes 2 new dark troops at each th level. For example: minis&hogs at th7, valks and golems at th8 and witch and..... At th9 meaning the next dark troop would probably come out at th9 and this troop is definatly more suited to th10!

And also to maybe balance discos it could be immune to inferno towers?

Just my suggestions, hope you like em!

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Thank you, i have never tought of the pattern of dark elixir troops being released like this. Two for each level of townhall... Well i might be thinking too far ahead if supercell intend to continue that pattern... Seems like another spooky themed DE troop is coming out..

well as to become immune to inferno towers, i dont want to degrade the usefulness of single target inferno towers as they are already rare in the lower to higher-mid leagues (farming leagues up to mid masters are choked full of discos, from my own experience) thus having itself actually eating the flames of discos and healing itself compared to being almost as vulnerable to single target infernos as the next high hitpoint troop would be good to counter discos but not single target infernos.

I like this idea, another fiery troop that sounds like it has potential to be a good troop, also finally a troop that's not super op but is good counter to an inferno tower, the freeze spell damaging it is good too.
I like your back story, btw :-1

I feel like some of the salamanders attributes are to op. For example: the salamander should only receive half the damage from inferno towers rather than being healed by it because it would discourage building the inferno towers in the first place if the salamander heals from a 5 million dollar defensive building. In addition, for a unit that attacks three buildings at once the salamander does not take up enough housing space. The salamander should take up at least 30 housing spaces and be reduced to two targets at a time. Lastly, the fiery body idea should be scrapped completely because it negates yet another defensive building; the clan castle ( which is arguably the most important defensive building). The unit already has a lot of special abilities and having cc units receive damage for attacking is to overpowered. Don't get me wrong if you think I don't like your idea cause I wrote this super long paragraph. I simply want to see this unit in the game and in order for it to have a chance you have to consider these changes. Peace out

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Originally Posted by KingCoopa

I feel like some of the salamanders attributes are to op. For example: the salamander should only receive half the damage from inferno towers rather than being healed by it because it would discourage building the inferno towers in the first place if the salamander heals from a 5 million dollar defensive building. In addition, for a unit that attacks three buildings at once the salamander does not take up enough housing space. The salamander should take up at least 30 housing spaces and be reduced to two targets at a time. Lastly, the fiery body idea should be scrapped completely because it negates yet another defensive building; the clan castle ( which is arguably the most important defensive building). The unit already has a lot of special abilities and having cc units receive damage for attacking is to overpowered. Don't get me wrong if you think I don't like your idea cause I wrote this super long paragraph. I simply want to see this unit in the game and in order for it to have a chance you have to consider these changes. Peace out

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My point is that the salamander heals only from multi target inferno fire, nagating half of the damage done would also discourage the use of single target mode, being more than 500 dps reduction at top flame intensity for single target infernos. Its not to discourage building the inferno towers, its to encourage the use of its single target mode. The healing done by the inferno beams is actually the total healing minus the damage done by it at the same time, altho there are space to reduce the healing number and still achive total healing from a multi target disco infernos.

bases with inferno towers but underdeveloped overall defenses should be vulnerable to it, but bases with enough dps from other defenses backing the disco inferno should be fine.

as the triple targeting, its reasonable to reduce the number to two, because the reason for multi targeting is to counter another common strategy used by inferno tower users, by using other lower priority buildings/defenses as buffer for the attacking troops while the inferno burns them. The same thing that multi target disco infernos are doing by negating the use of tanks for attacking army. A single golem can protect archers from an xbow by becoming its target, while the same strategy can not be used against a disco inferno. I think this calls for a dps reduction for the salamander.

for the fiery blood ability, i was thinking this troop as a cc defender, seeing how easy it was big troops like a pekka killed by a handful of barbarians. And IMO, cc are one of the most important defense a village could have, but if the cc is full of barbarians and goblins, which this skill effects the most, how important does the cc becomes? A cc filled with archers would not recieve any damage from this skill as both are ranged units and would never want to play slap each others face up close. This is also to help control the rampaging skeletal hordes of witches.

Lastly about the housing, the reason i put 25 instead of 30 is because if this troop is insta-killed by a freeze spell, a maxed cc would still have a few defenders left. Its hp and dps is somewhat close to a dragon of similar level, and being a ground troop, this makes it fairly weaker when taking fire from defenses compared to the current dragon.

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Originally Posted by Swagness

I like this idea, another fiery troop that sounds like it has potential to be a good troop, also finally a troop that's not super op but is good counter to an inferno tower, the freeze spell damaging it is good too.
I like your back story, btw :-1

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Thanks for the support and im glad you liked the backstory i whipped out.:)

well thought out:D
but i dont see it happening sorry
the next troop needs to really bring about something different