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Now, I know farmers do this a lot and only protect their resources. I'm asking this though - besides getting a free shield, what is the purpose of leaving it out in the open? Does a shield really matter if they're just going to start farming again anyway?
Thanks,
MasterHPotter
It doesnt matter at all if you are going to be coming right back on, it only matters when you are going to bed or wont be playing for several hours.
Also makes more room for storagesQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterHPotter
As stated above. Its for when your at work or sleeping and you hope that a trophy hunter comes and drops your th then ends battle. Free 12h shield at the cost of a few trophies.
and 1k each of gold and elixir, which isn't much of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahland3r
Never thought of it that way. I think I'll try this. Thanks zach and everyone else!Quote:
Originally Posted by zachUVA
Yeah, who needs to sleep or go to work these days? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterHPotter
Not me. I'm a nocturnal bum. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by silentwill
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Originally Posted by MasterHPotter
1) CHEAP SHIELD! not free...you lose; 1k each G/E, and 'X' amount trophies.. so not free. (now I agree 1k is drop in the pan.. but I digress)
also, they cant "bleed you out" by only getting 39% or less before leaving. thus not granting you a shield, (but still taking your resource) leaving you very vulnerable to other attackers. if you have traps set and the first guy triggers them, but does not get the 40%...and you dont get on before the next few attackers get your base..then your base is less then optimal for attackers after the traps have been triggered/disabled. I tried a funnel deal with a bunch of spring traps near an exposed air-def, to lure Giants, and it worked great the first attacker, but not so much the following three guys that got my base before someone gave me a cheap shield.
2) Also a shield will "keep you place" so you wont continually get trophs dumped on like you like when you are SUB200.., or lose them from being destroyed by a stronger TH lvl.
3) it helps to lower your trophy count so you stay in the optimal range more often. without having to mass dump trophs.
if I have a lot of time, Ill log off and troph chasers will bust my TH, so I get lower troph, and it only cost me the 1k G/E..and I can stay 'near' my farming range with little hassle.
4) TH takes a lot of walls to protect, walls that could be used to protect your more important Storages, Mortars, WTs and maybe some high lvl collectors
5) the Trophy hunting clowns get so bent out of shape over it.. it makes me laugh so much, quit whining and enjoy the dang fun this game has to offer!
lol! Thanks for the info! It helped a lot!Quote:
Originally Posted by AFRO
be aware though, only complete noobs will kill your town hall. farmers tend to avoid the TH. and like previously mentioned, not incorporating the TH in your design makes the design so much tighter as the TH is a pain to fit in any design with it's larger size.
in the days where we were all at 0 trophies farming with no TH cap, there were a small number of high level farmers where we would see each others bases and give each other free shields. it was a respect thing, we would give each other a shield when we would see each other out so our trophies didn't get out of hand because at 0 cups you would leave for 30 minutes and come back to 200+ trophies from other farmers dropping single goblins to get to 0. total pain in the butt trying to get back down to 0 cups every time.. lol
i should also mention, the idea behind having the TH outside is when you log off you hope a noob kills your TH so a high level farmer doesn't come along and wipe you out. there are always bigger fish swimming around in the same waters you're swimming in... ;)
Thanks for the reply! I take it 0 cups is worthless now?Quote:
Originally Posted by facescraper
impossible to reach now. there comes a time where the battles no longer give you a negative trophy to reach 0 so 100-200 is the minimum levels. some people still farm under 200 in my clan but it's hard work to stay there and from what i've heard the reward isn't really worth the effort with town hall penalties etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHPotter
Gotch ya. Thanks man!Quote:
Originally Posted by facescraper
Not impossible. just tried it for the heck of it a couple of weeks ago and had my walls upgraded to violet. But I was th7 then so it might be even more difficult now. Or not, since trophies and th levels have no relations.Quote:
Originally Posted by facescraper
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Originally Posted by silentwill
Ill find out this weekend and issue a Pros/Cons report on Monday.(I play a lot on weekends, OP if you dont mind Ill post it here..)
SUB200. It was good to me when I was TH5-6. Maxed walls and Defs down there! In pretty short order.
Been TH7 for a week. But at the end of my brief TH6 time, I chased the 1250 troph achievement.. some impressive loots could be found in the 1000-1200 ranges.. (I passed on a bunch to get st00pid trophs..but have 5thbuilder now soooo….) It takes longer to train troops, (in part because you acquire more) but once you get the Healer(TH6) the “Cheap Troops” become a little more effective. That little bit can turn into a lot of good loots; which means upgrades happen sooner. (Giant/Healer,supported…WUT!W00t!)
Im about 900 now, when I get on later Ill plummet into theSUB200 then see how the farming is with 195 troops, 20 CC troops.
Part of the reason I got out of the SUB200 is the fight tostay down there is a bit exhausting. If you have anything that will take you away from CoC for any stretch of more than say 15 min, expect to be in about the3- 500troph range with no shield usually…
By all means, please do.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFRO
Here my thought. I am trying my best to explain so you guys understand
I have my base farming style, TH out but i go trophies hunt. I have 24 hrs a day, and I play only 12 hrs
Deffense (12hr off)
My base Vs farmers. to get to my resouces they have to get deep inside. if they success that more than 40% damg to my base. free 12hrs shield. Trophie -10 (just a number I throw out. Hold your thought for later)
My base VS trophies hunter. They go after TH. we all agree, farmer base is not Ez to hit and hunter just want TH to win -10 trophies.
We all agree that once you lose the battle no1 else att so I lose 10 trophies
Offense. 12 hrs
k so let say It's take me 30 mins to train my troops that give me atleast 12 attt. (6 hrs play time)
Raid farmer base.. Att TH +10
Raid trophies hunter base.. Att theirresouces and other building to get 1 * ... +10
so 10x 12 att= 120 trophies - 10 I lose = 110 gains
K the number is just example but I point is you are the one manipulate win-lose ratio. and the use of sheild. sometimes you failed the raid but there would be some wins in your deffense so they even out.
So i dont care if you call me loser farmer or trophies hunters. I farm when I need supplies, I hunt trophies when those builders busy. Have fun with the game
Most farmers manipulate their trophy count on offense, not defense. If I win 30 or lose 30 on defense it really doesnt matter. During a long raiding session, however, you need to watch your trophy count and make sure you arent losing so many that you drop out of your range (except for sub 200 farmers). Personally, I don't usually worry about the 40% rule since there are plenty of targets in my range, so I just surrender after I have stolen all of the gold, although I still usually lose the battle. When you get too low, just do some fellow farmers a favor by taking out their THs. Defense is about shields, not trophies, for most farmers. I find winning trophies on offense a burden for farmers, since it is much more practical to always lose the battle.
For a while there I thought you were "Afro" from my clan. But looking at your other posts I guess not.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFRO
Nope, he is the Afro from ours. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by silentwill
Winner Z!Quote:
Originally Posted by zachUVA
I try to distinquish myself with the all caps AFRO..:cool:
and yeah we be Farming4(Gold/)Elixir all day sonn! (well when Im not working lol)