Farming - Is it the proper way to play?

Hi, before you call me a randal for being new the forums, I've been playing Clash for a couple months now ever since I started again. I'm currently struggling to push in the gold league as a TH7 and I know my way around stuff. I like this game. It would be nice if people listened and considered this thread. What I'm about to write up here is probably something most will disagree with as its a touchy topic. But I ask of you, read the whole thing.
The touchy topic I'm about to go over is Farming - the act of dropping trophies and putting your TH outside for free shields to let your collectors overload and get easy loot raids.
Sorry if my grammar is bad, its not my strong suit.

I'm aware many people do it and even I've done it myself. But it has to go for being a cheap way to play. Why it may be cheap? I'll just list the reasons.
-Easy raids-
You drop down to a lower league to where your troops should overwhelm almost anything of the TH levels that make up most of that particular league. Now you go steal a bunch of loot and trophies from some lower leveled person that stands very little chance to defend it, no matter his setup. Does the defender deserve to loose all those trophies and loot to something he has no chance against? You're trying to push and you're practically getting penalized trophies. Sure it doesn't really matter in the long-run, but its like pitting a fight between a fish and a shark. Lopsidedness like that shouldn't be in any game.
Now you may think "how often does defenses like THAT happen!", a lot actually. Especially in the Silver and Gold league. Most of my defenses contain mass lvl 5 Archer attacks, Golems, Hogs, and other troops I just can hardly defend at my level. My sister is only in TH5 and she constantly gets raided by healing spells from farmers and darktroops which are again, near undefendable at TH5.
Tackling the last part on this issue, people I've talked to about this says its fair on people trying to push in the lower league too since they get a free 1-star. Is placing down a couple of troops really a legit and intended way to gain cups?
-It's just a shortcut-
Even though there isn't difficulties in Clash, gaining resources become incredibly easy while farming. With nothing but the other farmer being able to get a decent raid on you in a lower trophy range, it just turns saving up gold/elixir from "hard" to "eZ". Now why can't anyone just save up for stuff in their proper trophy range under a proper difficulty? Why should you get the option to make a multiplayer game easier? Its pretty clear that farming seems a bit superior compared to normal pushing, why allow something thats clearly superior?
-Free shields-
So we all know how people in the champions league used to make alt accounts to give each other free 40% shields. Farming is essentially the same thing, just with the purpose of easy resources and random people give the free shield for you for some stupidly easy trophies.

Now what I think should happen as a solution? Make finding raids based on village level and TH level, not trophies.

Now I know a TON of people farm here and I don't mean any offense whatsoever to the people who do. I just think that the non-farmers deserve a fairer chance to push trophies without getting weighed down by undefendable people. I and hopefully many others are sick of seeing lines of defeat in their defense logs against people that outlevel them by a lot or victories from trophy droppers.

Sorry for the long post.

Hi,

Welcome to the forums! Could we see a picture of your base? If you post one, we might be able to help you with making it better. Putting your town hall on the edge will help make lower lvl ppl attack you. Make sure to also upgrade defenses.

You don't get attacked by golems in high silver league & low gold league. Another thing, farmers HELP the trophy pushers bud. How do you think a th2 made it to crystal? By th sniping FARMERS... Although I like the idea of a th based matchmaking system it wouldn't work. For one thing a th8 could make it to the #1 player & no one but th8's would be able to attack him.

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Originally Posted by Tysonyoshi

Hi, before you call me a randal for being new the forums, I've been playing Clash for a couple months now ever since I started again. I'm currently struggling to push in the gold league as a TH7 and I know my way around stuff. I like this game. It would be nice if people listened and considered this thread. What I'm about to write up here is probably something most will disagree with as its a touchy topic. But I ask of you, read the whole thing.
The touchy topic I'm about to go over is Farming - the act of dropping trophies and putting your TH outside for free shields to let your collectors overload and get easy loot raids.
Sorry if my grammar is bad, its not my strong suit.

I'm aware many people do it and even I've done it myself. But it has to go for being a cheap way to play. Why it may be cheap? I'll just list the reasons.
-Easy raids-
You drop down to a lower league to where your troops should overwhelm almost anything of the TH levels that make up most of that particular league. Now you go steal a bunch of loot and trophies from some lower leveled person that stands very little chance to defend it, no matter his setup. Does the defender deserve to loose all those trophies and loot to something he has no chance against? You're trying to push and you're practically getting penalized trophies. Sure it doesn't really matter in the long-run, but its like pitting a fight between a fish and a shark. Lopsidedness like that shouldn't be in any game.
Now you may think "how often does defenses like THAT happen!", a lot actually. Especially in the Silver and Gold league. Most of my defenses contain mass lvl 5 Archer attacks, Golems, Hogs, and other troops I just can hardly defend at my level. My sister is only in TH5 and she constantly gets raided by healing spells from farmers and darktroops which are again, near undefendable at TH5.
Tackling the last part on this issue, people I've talked to about this says its fair on people trying to push in the lower league too since they get a free 1-star. Is placing down a couple of troops really a legit and intended way to gain cups?
-It's just a shortcut-
Even though there isn't difficulties in Clash, gaining resources become incredibly easy while farming. With nothing but the other farmer being able to get a decent raid on you in a lower trophy range, it just turns saving up gold/elixir from "hard" to "eZ". Now why can't anyone just save up for stuff in their proper trophy range under a proper difficulty? Why should you get the option to make a multiplayer game easier? Its pretty clear that farming seems a bit superior compared to normal pushing, why allow something thats clearly superior?
-Free shields-
So we all know how people in the champions league used to make alt accounts to give each other free 40% shields. Farming is essentially the same thing, just with the purpose of easy resources and random people give the free shield for you for some stupidly easy trophies.

Now what I think should happen as a solution? Make finding raids based on village level and TH level, not trophies.

Now I know a TON of people farm here and I don't mean any offense whatsoever to the people who do. I just think that the non-farmers deserve a fairer chance to push trophies without getting weighed down by undefendable people. I and hopefully many others are sick of seeing lines of defeat in their defense logs against people that outlevel them by a lot or victories from trophy droppers.

Sorry for the long post.

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You seem to be unaware that there are loot penalties in clash of clans. Farmers only attack people at their townhall level or 1 lower. The only way 2 levels below is worth attacking is if it has all maxed collectors at 150,000 in each.

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Originally Posted by nathannathan1232

Hi,

Welcome to the forums! Could we see a picture of your base? If you post one, we might be able to help you with making it better. Putting your town hall on the edge will help make lower lvl ppl attack you. Make sure to also upgrade defenses.

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I don't get how thats even going to help and you're telling me to farm when I just made a wall of text on farming. But I'll try to get a screenie up, its not the best, but it does okay against people who's on the proper trophy range.

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

You seem to be unaware that there are loot penalties in clash of clans. Farmers only attack people at their townhall level or 1 lower. The only way 2 levels below is worth attacking is if it has all maxed collectors at 150,000 in each.

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I'm aware of that, it doesn't seem to have helped the cause at all though from what I'm seeing.
And theres a gigantic diffrence bewtween a mid TH8 and TH7.

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

You seem to be unaware that there are loot penalties in clash of clans. Farmers only attack people at their townhall level or 1 lower. The only way 2 levels below is worth attacking is if it has all maxed collectors at 150,000 in each.

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I think the vast difference between farming and pushers can be seen as a great ecosystem. I understand your point about how "cheap" it is for farmers to pick on lower level players but this is one of the major aspects of the game. It would be near impossible to manage 5 builders at one time while pushing. Pushing to high cups (2200+) takes a lot of elixir on top of being raid 5minutes after you get off. I have farmed pretty much constantly for the past 6 months and have recently finished th8. My opinion from this is obviously farming is important and beneficial. my only advice if you are getting attacked by higher level players drop trophies. There is no real point for a th1-7 to push for high cups because masters is unrealistic unless you snipe. If I was you I would consider farming at 1100-1200.

You say you wrote about farming but all I saw were tactics to defend your resources. Farming has nothing to do with townhall placement, base design or trophy count.

Farming(Def.)- The act of attacking in a manner that maximizes resources gained per hour.

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Originally Posted by Tysonyoshi

I'm aware of that, it doesn't seem to have helped the cause at all though from what I'm seeing.
And theres a gigantic diffrence bewtween a mid TH8 and TH7.

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Townhall 7 and 8 problems don't really matter, you stay at them for what 1-4 months? Maybe 5? Then spend years at 9 and 10.