seems almost impossible for me but some say you should do that whilst farming gold... i could never
seems almost impossible for me but some say you should do that whilst farming gold... i could never
You gain 3.2k d.e per day by just clicking on your drill.
Lets say you zap every half hour for say, 8 hours per day? =16k dark elixir from zapping
lets say you raid 5 times an hour for lets say 4 hours of sitting down and actually raiding? = 5k-10k dark elixir from raiding
=24.2k-29.2k dark elixir per day
=169.4k-204.4k dark elixir per week (before being raided)
Lets say you get raided for 2k per night
=155.4k - 190.4k
So you should be able to upgrade both heroes continually until they are level 17 each if you are average at farming or level 21 if you are above average.
Probably more if you balloonion as I have been told that you net about 10k+ dark elixir per hour
Having both heroes upgrading was very easy up until they reached lvl 14-15, where the DE cost was too high for me to have them always both upgrading.
I'm a "pretty good" farmer, very casual compared to others, but I think I have a good strategy as I manage to get enough gold to max my TH9 while upgrading my lvl 9 walls, and my heroes are at a good lvl (BK going to lvl 20 and AQ lvl 15). Without focusing on DE farming, I still manage to get enough DE to have AT LEAST one heroe upgrading constantly past lvl 15 (before that I managed to have them both upgrading for the first few weeks of TH9).
So don't give yourself a headache: Just play and farm the way you want. But yes, you should use all your DE on heroe upgrades. You won't need DE troops if you're farming, but heroes are a very nice addition to your base.
I had the same experience, just raiding for gold I got enough dark elixir to keep one heroe upgrading. Then I went to masters and never left and make more than enough, but need a heroe for those occasional 48-49% to get to 50%. :).
I used barch with 8 wbs, in gold 3-2.
Still using it, you can check my base: Foufoumoro clan leader of "Nouvel Eden" clan (BK finishing 19 in 3 hours and going to 20 right when it's up)
Strategy:
Going from 1750 to 1950 trophies, using a decent farming army that can either:
-Get juicy inactive bases as I have enough barch
-Get juicy 300-350K TH8 - TH9 bases using heroe + spells if well executed attack (that brings lots of de when successful attack on a 2.5k de target! )
Army comp:
16 giants
16 wallbreakers
rest barch almost 1:1 ratio
In barracks:
barrack 1: 4 giants 4 WB all Barbs
Barracks 2 to 4: 4 giants 4 wb 6 barbs rest archers (result is approx a 1:1 ratio in barbs and archers).
Spells:
1 light
1 heal
2 rage
Lately I've been using wizards because I feel the factory and hero 1 gem boosting makes huge raids more valuable, so I keep the same comp with 8 wizards instead of 32 archers... Works fine, even though it's somehow sad to use wizards on inactive bases x)
What if you get zapped 8 times per night?
I have not really used my heroes much. constantly under the hammer. I make 30K/day net on average. Both my heroes are going to lvl 18 and am doing lvl 3 valk (rest of De troops are maxed).
This may change though when the upgrade costs go higher. I dont see myself raiding more then 30k/day.
Well I'm kind of an anti-bam guy.
I have bamed for some time while th 8 (cuz I got too much DE I couldnt spend once my BK was lvl 10) so I know what I'm talking about.
My opinion on this is simple: I have NEVER encountered a base I could win/loot with BAM that I couldn't win/loot the very same way using BARCH + few WB.
BAM is, in my opinion, a flawed strategy: it is for the lazy players. Sure, it's efficient. But any BARCH +8 wb is 99% as efficient as BAM is.
DE being my most precious ressource (gold is not, gold is for walls which are an esthetic thing, we all know now with hogs, ballons and overpowered heroes that there is barely a difference between a base with full 7 or full 10 walls), I am totally against the use of BAM: it costs TONS of DE. Sure you can still profit DE with it, but oh my... Once a few weeks of bam have passed, if you think about all the DE you spent on this expensive and luxurious minions (luxurious compared to a good old barch army which costs nothing), you'd realize you could have get 2 or 3 more levels to one of your heroe would you have used good old BARCH.
Between having a bit easier raids than BARCHing and having slightly more complex raids and +3 lvls to my heroes, my choice is made.
That's why, good sir, I don't use BAM and will never use BAM any more.
I want to know what balloonian EVER came close to averaging 10,000 DE per hour??? A minion heavy balloon army takes 40 minutes to train. That's 2/3 of an hour. If you want to earn 10,000 DE per hour with an army that takes 40 minutes to train you'd need to average 6,600 DE per raid. And if you want only net (minus 600-700 DE per raid for minions) you'd need to haul in north of 7,000 DE per raid. No one does that....
Great thread and the comments helped a ton. Thanks and this motivated me to get to work on my heroes (which I have been slacking on). Also, make sure you have your max level drills to bring in the endless supply of DE!
If you de farm in upper crystal or masters, you will see consistent gold gain. Enough for defenses maybe not for walls.
On the topic of constantly upgrading, only the most hardcore will after the mid 20s in levels.
It all has to do with trophy range. The higher you go the more DE you find with the gold. You have to find a sweet spot your base can survive in though. Mine is max TH10 so it doesn't matter so much but if you have weaker defence try around 2k or just under.
Mine are constantly upgrading (both going to lvl 35 as we speak). Some guys in my clan like to upgrade the AQ first but I just do em both at the same time. By the time one has finished upgrading I have enough DE for the next update although it's getting a little tricky now with them costing so much... my next AQ upgrade costs 180k DE! Phwoarrr
Farm in c3...I made enough de there to keep one lvl 10-20 hero going at all times while still using bam
My clanmate, Spechi, he barches in Master (or even champions) and makes tons of DE. He just shared now his latest attack log. 3 attacks in 20 minutes, 11200 DE. I am jealous of him. I tried to barch but not much success. Apparently not everyone can master the barch (pun intended).
By farming on 1500-2000 u can get 1k in no problem