Been playing 5 days and something disturbs me greatly

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Originally Posted by Nervceo

I'm someone who in the past has played games like starcraft/AOE/LoL/WoW/runescape, you name it I played it. Not only did I play them but I was always top 5% except in runescape of course because that game didn't have any competitive aspects. Now some of my cousins introduced me to clash of clans a few days ago and I was blown away at how fun and satisfying it is. I thought to myself "this is what age of empires online wanted to be except this is way more accessible. I bought a few builders homes because it was pretty obvious this was the only real investment i could justify making without ruining my gameplay experience. I got excited when after an hour i could build archers, then after a day I could train wizards. I constantly fought to get gold to upgrade my walls to all dark iron or w\e and one little gold wall in front of my wizard tower. So naturally I went to look up youtube videos of CoC gameplay to see if there were any viable strategies where people just mass trained wizard. This is where i saw something very dark and almost disgusting.

I watched a video where a guy spent hundreds of dollars in a matter of minutes training troops and making spells. Upgrading everything in a matter of an hour while spending thousands. On the forums top players posting that you either pay or you won't be competitive. At first i thought "surely there must be a daily limit you can spend on this game", then when i found out that there was no limit I began to realize the game was one giant scheme for the people who buy gems constantly. When you buy gems to upgrade something there is always something else to spend cash on. Their is no end to it. I felt sick looking at what i was watching. Not because I was "jealous", but because i had never seen people throw away the chance to upgrade over time with buddies and try getting the top 5 spots or so in your clan just for fun. It was something much darker i was witnessing. I checked the timeline for CoC and i realized its relatively new so I think the company has a chance to fix this issue by putting a harsh cap on the amount of cash people can spend on the game per month.This will increase the longevity of the game, attract people looking for a legit AOE style moba without scaring them away, and help a lot of people who have put on different forums that the game ruined their lives because they spent so much cash only to realize that there was no end to it. Sure i could spend 200-300 dollars a week buying gems, but what am I gaining except skipping out on the satisfaction you get from leveling stuff up like in most games.

If the company doesn't change its policy soon I'm almost tempted to ask a few friends of mine or my step mother whom are lawyers to see if their is anyway to clarify this game as being a ponzi scheme that is accessible by children. Just because the game tells these poor souls over spending that "pay money and you can skip the most satisfying part of the game only to realize that you will never stop paying because we have you addicted", when it's also "pay money to get to a point that you think is the finish line, only to realize you can only stay there if you keep giving us your money, but instead of 500 gems its now 2000 gems, and now its 5000 gems". This is the very definition of a ponzi scheme.
I know it seems silly to write this after 5 days but when i play a game i like to watch youtube vids/read the forums/the reddit. The rate at which i was always to find out how dark this game was for a lot of people and very quickly.

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Thanks but you are obviously insane.....something called personal responsibility and freedom of choice

I have been playing for about a year now and haven't spent a penny. Playing without buying gems is way more satisfying in my opinion and certainly competitive to some degree, just not in the top of the leaderboards.

You have to keep in mind this game started of as just another mobile game which has grown quite big. It's nothing like the MMORPG's you're referring to and you shouldn't compare it with them.

(By the way, you clearly have no idea what a ponzi scheme is.)

OP, take deep breath. Now clear your mind of all that you just said. Now go on with your life without being delusional.

As somebody who has been playing this game for well over a year can tell you, you don't need to spend money to enjoy this game, yes there are people out there who spend an inordinate amount of money on this game, but you don't have to.

You won't get to the top of the leader board without spending but the game is not really about the leader board. You can have all the fun you expressed about progressing with friends over time.

There are plenty of people here on the forums who play this game daily, and have very advanced bases without having to spend a cent.

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Originally Posted by wip3ed

I find it really hard to argue with the OP here. You are spot on. It is possible to reach a maximised base without gemming, but you can only go so far. Lv 11 walls takes for ever and lv 40 heroes takes almost a year if constantly upgraded.
The top spots are for top gemmers and there is no chance to be there if you don't. That is the sad part, not that I would have reached it anyway. It would be very interesting to hear how high up someone have reached without buying their way up. Just so I know what my highest possible goal in this game should be.

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There was a thread last week of somebody who maxed their heroes without gemming.

there are plently of ppl farming towards maxed walls with over a billion already farmed.

Thats the beauty of this game, if u have the time you can achieve the same as what u can achieve with gems.

I agree with the the OP's intent if not use of the word Ponzi. The game developers have worked very hard to design a game that almost requires purchased gems to compete at some point. And I also agree that if SuperCell's avarice isn't mediated somewhat this game will flame out. People want to compete but few are silly enough to pay thousands of dollars to ramp up their bases. If they are continually being crushed by pay to play people they will not be competitive and will move on to something else. There are millions of games out there and many other companies who may look at the mistakes being made by SuperCell now as an opportunity. I see it as a real lost opportunity by SuperCell.

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Ok... But in this game you can choose to go without buying anything so its really up to you

You can perfectly play this game without gems. If you decide to pay for gems, that's your choice..
I don't see the problem?

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Originally Posted by VincentVegas

There was a thread last week of somebody who maxed their heroes without gemming.

there are plently of ppl farming towards maxed walls with over a billion already farmed.

Thats the beauty of this game, if u have the time you can achieve the same as what u can achieve with gems.

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Beautifully said, completely agree. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Bodhilv

If they are continually being crushed by pay to play people they will not be competitive and will move on to something else.

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The funny thing is though: I happen to find a lot of the people that spent a lot and max there base quick, are often not as good as the people who invest their time and learn to play the game properly as they progress. :)