Moats : New Form of Defense

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Originally Posted by 966souchou

Loving the new path.:)

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Originally Posted by chrish2124

Sounds really cool!

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Thanks! Glad to hear it! If you could help spread this thread around, that would really be appreciated!

The moat idea seems pretty cool. But if magma and slime have so many more abilities than the water moat, I think the water moat needs a buff. So, for your consideration: when the water moat (or a troop in the moat) is struck by a hidden tesla, the water should conduct the electricity and damage all troops in moat. (Maybe deals about 10-20% of the original tesla's damage?)

Whatcha think?

~KingDao

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Originally Posted by Piiees

A very interesting idea. Could be quite good, while would need to be limited to maximum of 25-30 at max lvl or it could become too strong a defence in positioning, strengthening all 'weak' points. I think for now just the water trenches should be used, as the magma ones would be too big an update, and hard to balance. You say the trench would slow troops by 20, but I'm feeling that may be very small a change, as it would slow a troop by 0.2 of a second or so, as they go from the outside of your base, to your walls. Maybe at first level have it at 40%. Additionally maybe only have a few levels (say goes to 60% then 70% (not 80%, as mathematically, that would double the time it would take a troop to travel across the water, compared to the 60%). But then have the amount you can have increase from 10 at th5, and then increase by 5 every th level, up to a cap of 30 (reached at th9). Good idea, I'll try to incorporate this so it'll be better.*

Apart from my preferences, it think its a stunning idea, as it doesn't just add another trap, defence or level to something, rather it gives a whole new aspect that you can take into account when you design your base, giving a lot of new strategies.

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Glad you like my idea! It would slow troops by 20% and would increase by 5% for each time you've upgraded the trench. Max lvl would be 8 so that would mean that if you were to use the water moat, it would slow your troops down by 60%. The slime moat as I've recently suggested would slow troops down probably by the same. For now I guess I'll make sure that the water moat get's the most attention it deserves as incorporating all my moat ideas into CoC at once would be a big update. But that doesn't mean I'm going to ask anyone to stop giving me constructive criticism so that I can fix any problems that can be found with the magma, slime or even water moat ideas.

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Originally Posted by KingDao

The moat idea seems pretty cool. But if magma and slime have so many more abilities than the water moat, I think the water moat needs a buff. So, for your consideration: when the water moat (or a troop in the moat) is struck by a hidden tesla, the water should conduct the electricity and damage all troops in moat. (Maybe deals about 10-20% of the original tesla's damage?)

Whatcha think?

~KingDao

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I think this is an amazing idea! But think about it if a PEKKA crosses the moat and isn't struck by the Hidden Tesla but is effected as the water moat is made conductive. Would it still be effected by 2x Damage or will it be dealt the same amount as any other troop? I'm the type who wants to see PEKKA's and under-used troops be seen in competitive leagues more, and I feel that this combination of the Tesla and the moat would expand the range of the Hidden Tesla greatly, thereby making PEKKA's seem even less appealing. What exactly were your thoughts?

Great idea! Some changes need to be made, but that's not our job :cool:

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Originally Posted by BlitzBreak

I think this is an amazing idea! But think about it if a PEKKA crosses the moat and isn't struck by the Hidden Tesla but is effected as the water moat is made conductive. Would it still be effected by 2x Damage or will it be dealt the same amount as any other troop? I'm the type who wants to see PEKKA's and under-used troops be seen in competitive leagues more, and I feel that this combination of the Tesla and the moat would expand the range of the Hidden Tesla greatly, thereby making PEKKA's seem even less appealing. What exactly were your thoughts?

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I don't think the moat should get the 2x damage to PEKKAs, that seems a little too powerful. I mean, PEKKAs are really slow already, so the moat will do enough to them with just the slow and zap effects without the 2x damage as well.

~KingDao

Newly revised and edited the OP. I took some of your tips KingDao, and I think the water moat seems a lot less plain.

Edited OP again, now crediting people who help with this idea in the OP!