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I haven't thought of a solid number, but I think that that the ratio of wall to moat would be about 4:1. I want there to be enough that you feel challenged, but not enough that you can fully enclose your entire base twice with them. At the max lvl you probably would be able to handle ~1/2 the total amount of walls you can possibly have.Quote:
Originally Posted by KL597
I love this idea, just what the game needs. Only 2 problems: 1) Not enough space on the battle field for the moats, like at TH 9 and 10, it would be too much because of the sheer size of the village, so if this was to be implemented, it would also require to make the village space bigger then before. Another thing is that I think it would be to OP to have both water and magma moats, so it must be one or the other. A improvement to this would be multiple types of moats you can select when you go up town halls. EX. at TH 5, you can get just water moats, but at TH 6 you can get water moats or a fiery moat, and they would have their own abilities. Another improvement I would make is to have a troop type, called a logger or something to have temporary bridges over the select types of moats, and upgrading the logger will upgrade the amount of troops each bridge can hold, types of moats it can go over, ect. So with a little fine tuning it could be a great addition to the game:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by BlitzBreak
I like the idea as a whole, except the magma moat. It's a bit OP because it might kill decrease the usefulness of wallbreaker too much. I know you don't have enough magma to surround the base, but it's still a bit too much IMO.
As for the water moat, it's just a reverse rage spell (only at the moat range though) so they don't exactly need to code new animations/program. Just tweak with the stats and the range of the usual circle range on spells
Some of these ideas I already noted in the OP. I said that when the moat reaches a certain level it has split upgrade trees where you can continue down the traditional moat path (Water Path) or magma moat (Magma Path), so no worries about having more than one type of moat like you've said. I also took note that no additional troops are to be created. A logger as you suggested would only be useable if someone decided to buy moats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robotechwac
Wallbreakers can't cross magma moats but they still have some use. They can still be used, and take note that if you choose the Magma Path you would have less total moats than the Water Path and the Magma Path is costlier. The magma moat helps fortify your weaker walls as it causes the attacker to decide if the risk of crossing the magma moat is better than attacking your stronger walls and facing your strongest defenses. This also will give Goblins a challenge as if you place your gold or elixir storage on the wall being protected by a moat, they will have to cross the moats to get to them while getting nicely roasted!Quote:
Originally Posted by fre3dom
May be going off on a limb, but I've been thinking about another moat idea as it's come to my attention that the magma moat idea isn't getting as much praise as I thought it would get when I introduced the idea. So here it is:
The Slime Moat!
This is going to be called the Slime Path. This path can also be made accessible when the magma moat is unlocked. A slime moat acts like the traditional moat as it slows troops down, but it has an added twist! Rather than it allowing you to leave traps in it, if A) An Inferno Tower attacks a troop in the slime moat or B) A Giant Bomb goes off, or a Wallbreaker/Balloon drops a bomb in its proximity, the slime will immediately blow up, causing considerable splash damage. That's right! Slime moats are highly combustible. When slime detonates, the entire strip of slime that it's connected to disappears allowing for troops to regain speed as they approach walls. This path will be more costly than the Water Path, but less than the Magma Path. Be sure to hit me up with that feedback, and if you forum readers like this idea, I'll be sure to add this into the OP!
I support it, but it would have to be more compact.
Loving the new path.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by BlitzBreak
Sounds really cool!
A very interesting idea. Could be quite good, while would need to be limited to maximum of 25-30 at max lvl or it could become too strong a defence in positioning, strengthening all 'weak' points. I think for now just the water trenches should be used, as the magma ones would be too big an update, and hard to balance. You say the trench would slow troops by 20, but I'm feeling that may be very small a change, as it would slow a troop by 0.2 of a second or so, as they go from the outside of your base, to your walls. Maybe at first level have it at 40%. Additionally maybe only have a few levels (say goes to 60% then 70% (not 80%, as mathematically, that would double the time it would take a troop to travel across the water, compared to the 60%). But then have the amount you can have increase from 10 at th5, and then increase by 5 every th level, up to a cap of 30 (reached at th9).
Apart from my preferences, it think its a stunning idea, as it doesn't just add another trap, defence or level to something, rather it gives a whole new aspect that you can take into account when you design your base, giving a lot of new strategies.