Loot System isn't the problem..... Production is the problem

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Originally Posted by Danielg

Well i haven't post anything in several days on the forums and there are post after post with people complaining about the loot system. So once again I'm going to try to explain whats going on in the game.

The loot system I believe is fine. The problem is the mines they don't produce enough gold. Now before someone pops off with your supposed to farm the resources take 2 second and think about that, the resources you are farming come from the mines. All the gold in the game is from the mines. (The bonus i would say pays for the Next Button) It take 6000 days to produce enough gold for one person to have enough gold to complete the current upgrades. ( I would say it is more than that not everyone has 7 max out mines but in a perfect world its around 6000 days. )

The game is one sided in resource and that is gold. Right now if you where to attack me you would be able to steel less then 100K in gold but 600K in elixir. Why is that Gold upgrades are just under 3 billion and elixir upgrades are 500 Million. Almost every battle i fine in the list the elixir is 3 to 4 time the amount of gold.

We shouldn't be complaining about the loot system but the production of the resources, or the fact that gold is 6 time that of elixir in upgrades.

Last time I said that someone popped off with elixir is used in troops. I know but if you are farming you aren't farming with 10 dragons.

Gold is down in the game because active players are dumping the gold has fast as they can get it. I am farming lv9 walls so every Million I get I buy a wall. Has anyone else noticed the wall lv seem to be on the rise. I believe that more people are bumping the gold into wall then before the loot system changed. Super Cell made it possible for the higher up town halls to steel 600K so I don't believe the problem is the loot system.

Just my 2 Cents
Danielg
Killer Minions

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This is very true but.. It is all about cost of units in relation to amount stolen, for example if you use 3 giants and 30 gobs to get 80k gold, it might not seem like a lot but it adds up, you are spending around 8x less than you are using, if you use 12 giants and 50 gobs and 120 archers to get 200k, that is a lot more spent. A lot wasted.

I've been playing this game since Christmas, and one thing that became obvious to me was that mines and extractors don't produce anything like the resources that raiding does. With that in mind my mines and extractors have a lower priority than anything else. For example level 10 mine takes 3 days each to make. I'm not going to waste 3 days when I have barracks, army camps, etc to build or upgrade.

I've just started th7 and most my mines and extractors are level 7-9. I have seen some camps while pressing the NEXT button that have under level 5 mines and extractors and I'm guessing thats in part because they don't get much from them to start with, and they also almost never get attacked because they hold no resources.

I also wonder how many people reduce their funds through cancelling buildings multiple times before logging off.

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Originally Posted by JWALKR

I've been playing this game since Christmas, and one thing that became obvious to me was that mines and extractors don't produce anything like the resources that raiding does. With that in mind my mines and extractors have a lower priority than anything else. For example level 10 mine takes 3 days each to make. I'm not going to waste 3 days when I have barracks, army camps, etc to build or upgrade.

I've just started th7 and most my mines and extractors are level 7-9. I have seen some camps while pressing the NEXT button that have under level 5 mines and extractors and I'm guessing thats in part because they don't get much from them to start with, and they also almost never get attacked because they hold no resources.

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Indeed, yet we all pay for it at the end of the day.

That is why SuperCell really should put in an achievement for completing lv 11 gold mines. It would encourage those to put the time into developing them, and globally more loot will be produced for everyone.

I end up with more gold than elixer which sometimes blows. Walls are good to use on but i need more elixer for spells troops upgrades ect.. So yes please supercell help haha

Im a th8, so this doesnt go for higher th levels, but I believe supercell is adding inactives back into the game. Anywhere between 1300 and 1900 u can find an inactive every 10 raids. Also, in your calculations, you are forgetting gemmers, a bigger part of the economy then you think. They fill gold storage with gems, adding that gold to the system and boost collectors a lot too. And, if you could just sit back and max ur base in a week just from collectors, this game wouldn't be fun. If you want to win and be the best, you cant sit back and just let your collectors do the work.
I read this somewhere else on here, so sorry if I steal ur analogy, but I really like it. If you play one FIFA game every week for 10 minutes, you will never compete online with the hardcore players. If you play GTA once a week for 20 minutes, your never going to get 100% completion. COC is no different. To be good you need to work for it. Point is, being the best at a any game takes commitment. If your not going to play a lot you cant expect to max your base.

I sort of feel like there are just different parts of the game that demand a particular resource. Some TH levels are gold heavy, some elixer heavy, and of course, the higher THs are DE heavy in relation to the buildings and upgrades that are available at particular TH levels. I think an unavoidable problem is also that not everyone maxes their base before they upgrade their TH. If people keep upgrading their THs(perhaps prematurely) but neglect to upgrade their pumps, mines, drills, (or those who exclusively trophey push and neglect building their bases) naturally the loot isn't having the chance to be produced, thus, it has very little chance to be farmed. As others have also mentioned, walls at higher lvls litterally DEVOUR gold, and due to the overpowered offense that is currently in effect(not saying this is good/bad) it stands to reason that people would want to farm their walls. I don't think forcing people to max their bases before upgrading their TH is necessarily the answer, because it would probably ruin the game, however, perhaps SC could find an answer to this issue eventually.

These are just my theories concerning the loot complaints especially pertaining to gold resources. It is of course important to find the proper trophey range in which to farm, this range being of a very small margin, and totally depends on the individual players current state in the game. I personally never played in the glory days of massive raids and insane availability of loot, but after playing and reading the forums I think it is pretty obvious that resources aren't what they used to be. Not complaining though, I play the game that is available to me, and I am content with that.

EDIT: personally I have gold coming out my nose, elixir is what I struggle to find. I'm TH5, so I think this might show that different THs are hungrier for particular resources than others. Upgrades at certain THs are not equal in their consumption of gold/elixir.

Still dont see how there is a loot issue. I find loot fairly easy on both of my accounts. Nothing crazy but enough to make me gem builders because my gold storages are full. Im new to farming but been farming about 5 million gold a day.. And maybe around 15-20k DE because it be in my path lol.

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Originally Posted by Jsf

Im a th8, so this doesnt go for higher th levels, but I believe supercell is adding inactives back into the game. Anywhere between 1300 and 1900 u can find an inactive every 10 raids. Also, in your calculations, you are forgetting gemmers, a bigger part of the economy then you think. They fill gold storage with gems, adding that gold to the system and boost collectors a lot too. And, if you could just sit back and max ur base in a week just from collectors, this game wouldn't be fun. If you want to win and be the best, you cant sit back and just let your collectors do the work.
I read this somewhere else on here, so sorry if I steal ur analogy, but I really like it. If you play one FIFA game every week for 10 minutes, you will never compete online with the hardcore players. If you play GTA once a week for 20 minutes, your never going to get 100% completion. COC is no different. To be good you need to work for it. Point is, being the best at a any game takes commitment. If your not going to play a lot you cant expect to max your base.

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Totally agree about the inactives available. Every base I raided since midnight (3 hrs) has been inactive. I normally find a lot of them but not this many. Been hitting next 5 times max.

How about an increased loot bonus for a 2 star victory, and even higher for a 3 star?

It would inject extra loot while giving people an extra strategical dimension :)

I upgrade walls, this is all, ENDGAME