Level 9 walls and higher

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February 17th, 2014
Zevion

Level 9 walls and higher

Other than appealing look of an wall, I don't get the concept of flaming wall when it doesn't serve protection from hog riders or those have ability to jump over flaming walls. It should have some damage at least little perhaps 5 points, and with increased level of walls, more damages incurs. I believe it will help out some balance with hog rider or those ability jump over walls, because I've seen many replays it seems hog riders have taken over town quickly and unfair to those who is struggling, and it to me it not balanced.
February 17th, 2014
Rastis

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Originally Posted by Zevion

Other than appealing look of an wall, I don't get the concept of flaming wall when it doesn't serve protection from hog riders or those have ability to jump over flaming walls. It should have some damage at least little perhaps 5 points, and with increased level of walls, more damages incurs. In reality, it hurt to walk over bed of coal, and hog riders should have same effect. I believe it will help out some balance with hog rider or those ability jump over walls.

Hogs are already balanced, they have had several direct nerfs and a few indirect ones. They also jump over walls, not walk - and CoC is not really reality. Besides, there is no reason or logic behind adding in some new damage portion skill that counters the one unit that inherently has been given the ability to ignore walls. It would kind of take away everything special that hog riders have.
February 17th, 2014
mountaindrew

I don’t like this idea. It won’t make a difference
February 17th, 2014
Zevion

Ok walking or jumping over fire is intense

even if you're pretty close to fire it is intense, and little as 5 damage out of smallest hit point of 270 might doesn't seems much, i've known hog riders can jumps all over and quickly overtake the town and to me it is not balanced. So starting with flaming wall it has a little risk for hog riders. Why we spend a lot of gold to build an wall and flames serves no purposes.
February 17th, 2014
Rastis

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Originally Posted by Zevion

even if you're pretty close to fire it is intense, and little as 5 damage out of smallest hit point of 270 might doesn't seems much, i've known hog riders can jumps all over and quickly overtake the town and to me it is not balanced. So starting with flaming wall it has a little risk for hog riders. Why we spend a lot of gold to build an wall and flames serves no purposes.

I'm sure you knew that hogs jump walls before you had poured more than a few tens of millions into those walls, didn't you? A proper layout and well placed traps counter most scrubby hoggers - and the majority of hoggers are just facerolling, and will fail against a good layout (TH9 and up). Good hoggers will tear your town apart, but so will most good bloonion / gowipe / gowiwi users as well.
February 17th, 2014
BoJay

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Originally Posted by Zevion

Why we spend a lot of gold to build an wall and flames serves no purposes.

Erm, incase you didn't know those higher level walls also give more HP, and they look awesome.;)
February 17th, 2014
Zevion

Higher hp for walls means nada for hog riders

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Originally Posted by BoJay

Erm, incase you didn't know those higher level walls also give more HP, and they look awesome.;)

Yeah high hp, but nothing to hog riders
February 17th, 2014
fenn93

simple! Build an anti hog base!!
February 18th, 2014
Rastis

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Originally Posted by fenn93

simple! Build an anti hog base!!

This^

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Originally Posted by Zevion

Yeah high hp, but nothing to hog riders

And I'm sure you knew from quite early on that hogs jump walls - and even if not, ignorance is no excuse.

Hogs jump walls and attack defenses - that's their perk (all DE troops get a rather unique perk, and before you argue, the Valk perk is splash damage, tankiness and suckiness). Hogs have been nerfed several times, the trap revamp nerfs them further and the addition of IT anti-heal (yea, upgrade to TH10 asap!) kills them. You might argue that they pose a large threat to TH9, and yes, they do - but they are rather managable with an anti hog layout.

Special troops (wall jumping and targeting defs) requires special measures and a special layout, easy as that. People build special bases to counter GoWipe /GoWiWi too, but I don't see you complaining about those, and can only assume you haven't encountered those yet. TH8s get owned by hogs for sure, but they also get owned by balloonions, gowiwi, gowipe and even giant wiz / giant wiz healer.

Hogs are fine, case closed.