What if it isnt a deal gone bad but exposing a thief to protect other traders? dont you want to know the person you are going to trade with is a known thief?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kolonistje1
What if it isnt a deal gone bad but exposing a thief to protect other traders? dont you want to know the person you are going to trade with is a known thief?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kolonistje1
This was meant as message not post.
i have 30 nails, 5 screws and 26 panels.
1:1 trade.
need:
duct tape
pm me if anyone interested.
i have:
20 deeds
23 nails
i need planks and bolts
1:1 trade.
That is also a trade going bad so the same rule applies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maaron
I know the sentiments behind it but we simply can't allow that. In some cases it might be a "thief" in lots of other cases it could be a misunderstanding or a trade going bad for other reasons. Trading is always done at own risk and things can go wrong whether it's intentional or not.
People can wrongly accuse others way to easy and it might end up in a fued. If you work out the trade through PM you need to work out the differences to PM.
Im looking to trade my Silo Expansion items for Barn Items:
I have:
Nails: 23
Screws: 31
Panels: 39
Looking for:
Bolts: 15
Planks: 13
Tape: 2
Trade 1:1
PM me if interested.
I need 36 Tapes & 26 Bolt, can trade with my below item.
I have:
Nail x 46
Screw x 14
Wood Panel X 19
GC: truelovesam
LV: 46
please pm me if interest .
I am looking to trade my 13 mallets for your 13 floor stakes.
1:1
Max price
with all due respect, how can it be a misunderstanding if apparently there are many of us who got scammed?
it would be nice if we can "protect" our, what once was a nice community.. by trying to inform others.
and, unfortunately, pm does not work, since the scammer refuses to reply you.
so, do you have any other suggestion?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kolonistje1
Hi all, I am in need of 7 white sugars in the next 45 min to earn my captain 3 award. Please help, will pay max price or trade a few tapes, nails for them!
Pm me if u can help! Much appreciated!
Gc ID zopelroo
Need:
3 Bolts
1 Stake
4 Mallets
6 Deeds
Have:
3 Planks (for Bolts ONLY)
7 Tapes
5 Screws
2 Nails
3 Wood Panels
23 Saws (2:1)
12 Axes (2:1)
5 TNT (2:1)
3 Dynamite (2:1)
4 Shovels (2:1)
I need:
20 tapes
10 bolts
10 planks
I have to trade:
37 panels 1/1
22 screws 1/1
11 nails 1/1
4 deeds 1/1
36 mallets 3/1
39 stakes 3/1
Mine / Yours
I have 20 deeds (1:1), 25 stakes (3:1), 12 mallets (3:1), 20 nails (1:1), 40 screws (2:1) and 40 panels (2:1). I need bolts.
I think traders should keep one another informed of potential traders/scammers whose aim is to cheat.
I have particularly seen a few newbies, who joined barely a few days, but suspiciously demanding me to pass the item to them first.
Would be nice if we could keep one another informed to ward off such individuals in future.
In addition, we seniors traders should insist those juniors who has yet to build their reputation to trade their items first.
Death to newbies!
I find it funny to read that you're a "senior trader" and yet your profile says you're a new member.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neit
But I agree there are potential scammers (clue: new members with less than 5 posts demanding to get theirs first) out there so I just ask anybody who trades with me to pass along theirs first unless we have traded before already.
I have 20 tapes
4 bolts
Need 24 planks. 1:1
Been trading actively with clean records for 2 weeks, but if you insist that's not senior enough, then no problem, I always offered to trade first. Those who traded with me will know :)
To be fair to those who are way senior, juniors (including me) should trade first no?
If not cheater, there's no worries right?
When trading you can do a lot to protect your interests like Neit mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by ciesca
The problem is there is no easy way to draw the line in the middle so therefore we don't allow it at all.
Imagine how you would feel if someone called you a thief all over the forum when a simple mistake occured and they wouldn't listen to a word you say.
i understand that it wouldn't be nice if someone call you a thief, however, if it is a mistake, why don't they just simply reply their message with explanation? people would not start calling you thief if you are reasonable.
sorry for being so harsh, i just lost 15 stakes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kolonistje1
Yeah i understand your frustration. I've been there too. I used to not care who goes first until that one incident when someone spoils it all. There are real scammers out there but there are trades that have gone sour simply because of misunderstanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by ciesca
I Have
Ratio(Mine:Yours)
Deeds(1:1)
Nails(2:1)
Screws(1:2)
Panels(1:2)
Stakers(1:2)
Mallets(1:2)
Need: Tapes and Bolts
Base Price.
U farm First
PM me
I am sorry you lost items because of something like that but there is no middle ground here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ciesca
If someone were to reply to it we just end up with a fued or the person crying thief isn't listening and we end up with having to deal with it all and giving people warnings, infractions and or forum bans.
We did have an experience once were someone accused the wrong person of stealing when they stumbled on a trade not knowing about trades. Instead of listening they went full steam ahead with the accusation.
I am sorry but this is not open for debate. Any name and shames we see will be at least removed.
I need:
12 Bolts
12 Planks
I have:
23 Nails
31 Screws
42 Panels
(1:1) trade
PM me if interested :)
Sell those for deeds (mine:yours)
45 saws (5:1)
28 axes (4:1)
16 dynamites (4:1)
6 tnt (3:1)
2 shovels (2:1)
1 dimond ring (1:1)
10 jams (2:1) - 2 blackberry, 4 apple, 4 raspberry
9 necklaces (1:1)
6 bracelets (1:1)
8 metal bars (2:1) - 6 gold, 1 silver, 1 platinum
Max price/default price?
I have to say i stayed away from trading until i started needing 20plus for an upgrade, exactly for the reason of trust, it always boggled my mind how much trust you have to put into another person, i have so far completed trades with several people, no complaints at all.
How about, we add the name of people we successfully trade with in our signatures?
Or even better if there was a button for "like" or "trusty" person, whereby every time a successful trade is completed you can press the other person's button making them gain trustworthiness for future trades?
I would like to trade my ring diamonds with planks, bolts and tapes.
3 Rings Diamonds = 1 tape, plank, bolt.
PC Me if you are interest.
GC: engwantlove
your inbox is full...Quote:
Originally Posted by EngWantlove
Hi, 3 bolts for 9 rings?
Add me if interested :)
I need mallets and ill trade anything!
Have:
101 Deeds will trade for planks only
121 Mallets
57 Stakes
Need:
Planks
Bolts
Tape
Nails
Screws
Panels
Max price 1:1
I have screws and panels to trade 1 of mine for 2 shovels, please pm me to make a deal, thanks!~
i have 10 stakes to trade for 5 bolts, my stakes your bolts
also
4 deeds to trade for 5 bolts, my deeds your bolts
10 mallets for 1 barn items, my mallets your barn item mallets traded
JonHimes seems a little upset i can understand why. but the moderator has a point as well.
There is no mistake when multiple people have the same problem with the same person. That isn't a mistake. Mistake by definition brings ambiguity and there was clearly no ambiguity. I even had in my rules their farm first and I didn't even get their gamer tag until the end of the conversation because the hid it in the fog of a complex trade. They popped it out at the very end of the 15message in my inbox hey I'm in your shop. OK but my terms were default price and your farm first I didn't even know their level30 until after they were in my shop waiting. And because I already spent awhile on the trade I just said screw it it is taking long enough. I found their farm and was it it. So ok. Then I got a like on my farm from them. So I went back to to my farm checked my messages They said I prefer to go first. So I already vetted this person. And I agreed, I did my side of trade and lost 50 mallets 50 stakes and two deeds on a very generous trade. Because they kept posting for land expansion items and had been on the forum for a week with 10 posts. I went to their farm bought some items. And sent a message I was there. They responded just buy the wheat. The did not post anything and nothing happened. I was I their farm for a while. I sent another message and they said " ok I'm ready just buy the wheat" I bought the wheat again. They didn't respond after that and then they deleted their friendship on Game Center. So they thought I could not trace them.
As a good forum moderator should investigate legitimate claims from multiple people about the same person and possibly institute an ip block. This is not my first rodeo. I have been playing online games for over a decade. I am level 67 and the other person that contacted me about this same person we feel violated us and have proof to back that up was a level high 50s. We are talking about long time experienced players. We are trying to defend our fellow gamers who take this serious. As a moderator and forum I would expect you to take this serious as well. If not the. Just tell us you don't care and tell us again its at our own risk despite the facts and tangible evidence.
I would like to trade
shovels for barn items 2:1
Screws 1:1 for barn & silo items // 1:2 for mallets.
I have:
86 panels
52 screws
13 deeds (1:1)
16 mallets
19 stakes
Looking for:
nails (1:1)
bolts
tapes
planks
Ratio 2:1
Please send PM. Thanks.
I have 13 Mallets and 10 Stakers to Trade whit 10 bolts.
Have:
20 mallets
20 stakes
Need:
Tape 2:1
Dynamite 1:4
TNT 1:3
Shovels 1:2
Silver bars 1:2
Mine:yours
pm pls
Done Trading!
First of all I am sorry this trade went so bad however I will repeat what I said. Trading is not supported. It's always at own risk. Looks like there was trouble with communicating with that person before you went off to trade you are always free to refuse a trade. You chose to proceed anyway against your own terms I might add.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonHimes
I doesn't matter if it's an intentional steal or not. We have to draw the line where it is and it isn't that we don't care. That being said there is no point in sharing someones level or Game Center ID as those can be change as well. There are too many things that can go wrong during a trade and there is only one word against the other. We forum mods can not and will not choose sides in these matters when one or two trades have gone bad.
Like I said (and I have traded a lot myself) there are many things a person can do to reduce the risk of something going sour.
So if Supercell doesn't support or endorse trading, and I'm not trying to imply that they should, why moderate this tread at all? Just let us be and we'll sort out our on problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kolonistje1
I need deeds.
Will trade for:
bolts
wood panels
screws
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomisnic
Just colse the threard. and no more trading cuz we have here 0 support :D
Then this thread would die and nobody would trade anymore. There would only be fighting who did what and who didn't do that. Like Kolonjiste said trading is your own risk and everyone should accept this or don't trade at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomisnic
Ther are things you can do to mitigate risk likeQuote:
Originally Posted by Velmuliina
posting bad behavior
Whether it is intentional or not. Allow person to make it right. I sent 3 messages to their gc account and SC forum ID and no response.
Post good behavior.
P
this is how eBay works and they make money tons and tons of money and ebay itself doesn't get involved unless resolution can not be made.
SC moderates the thread (via the mods, who follow SC guidelines I am sure) because it is their forum!! You know, they could decide to not allow trading discussion at all. I really don't want that to happen! The mods have said over and over that trading is not supported, and it is done at your own risk. I completely understand why someone would want to protect others from "bad traders"... but SC has the right to say that you can't do that on their forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomisnic
If you really don't like how the forum functions, you could set up something different... a FB group or whatever. But please don't mess this avenue up for those of us who are happy it is here and accept the risk.
Thanks!!
I like trades
Just gotta find the right people
And set the terms right
And you both will be happy in the end
Amen! You are so right!Quote:
Originally Posted by MarySC
I have:
lots of mallets, stakes, screws.
I need:
brown sugar
Let's trade in bulk. 1:3. PM me your offers, gc, and farm level. I trade at 1 gold per set.
Edit!
Thanks to all traders! Need to reassess before further trades.
:)
I have 40 screws, i trade for other building items, just let me know what you need and what kind of trade you have in mind pm only
thx
Why would it die? According to you, pointing out cheats is a bad thing and would lead to the death of this thread? That's a mighty stretch....The only way this thread would die is if it were invaded by cheats, and with no avenue to point them out, all trust collapses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Velmuliina
Hi everybody,
I need 5 planks.
I have 16 panels (2:1), 14 screws (2:1), 6 nails (2:1), 40 stakes (3:1), 50 mallets (3:1), 13 deeds (2:1)
please pm me if interested :)
According to the forum rules you will investigate pm abuse. I was lied to in my pm. Is lying considered abuse? They punish it by jail in the United States and other free countries. sC does not define Abuse, I would like to make a formal request to investigate the abuse I have experienced by another forum user, according to your forum rules I would like to seek a bam on their user name and IP address after you have seen the facts and it has been proven I was abused as will be evident. I against this time feel abused and would like action taken to prevent further abuse. I was abused financially for lose of diamonds that I have paid to increase my production capability and I was abuse by a breach in confidence in their word and from those items below.
Definition: Abuse is the improper usage or treatment for a bad purpose, often to unfairly or improperly gain benefit.
Abuse of information: typically involves a breach of confidence or plagiarism, or extending the confidence of information beyond those authorized.
Cyber abuse: "involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others. -Bill Belsey"
Economic abuse: is a form of abuse when one intimate partner has control over the other partner's access to economic resources, which diminishes the victim's capacity to support him/herself and forces him/her to depend on the perpetrator financially.( I no long have access to my items)
Financial abuse: Financial abuse (or material abuse) is, for example, illegal or unauthorized use of a person’s property, money, pension book or other valuables (including changing the person's will to name the abuser as heir), often fraudulently obtaining power of attorney, followed by deprivation of money or other property, or by eviction from own home.( I did not authorize them to use my items for free it was a breach of contract)
Gaming the system
Gaming the system (or bending the rules, gaming the rules, playing the system, abusing the system, milking the system, or working the system) can be defined as using the rules and procedures meant to protect a system in order, instead, to manipulate the system for a desired outcome. ( they took my items so I go backward and they go forward)
Humiliation is the abasement of pride, which creates mortification or leads to a state of being humbled or reduced to lowliness or submission. It can be brought about through bullying, intimidation, physical or mental mistreatment or trickery, or by embarrassment if a person is revealed to have committed a socially or legally unacceptable act.( they tricked me into not following the pre established rules I created and would not want me to tell others I was taken advantage of)
Market abuse: may arise in circumstances where financial investors have been unreasonably disadvantaged, directly or indirectly, by others who have disseminated false or misleading information.( I was told I would receive items that I did not)
Misconduct: means a wrongful, improper, or unlawful conduct motivated by premeditated or intentional purpose or by obstinate indifference to the consequences of one's acts. ( they felt there would be no consequences to their actions)
I have 20 screws, 20 panels and 20 stakes I'd like to trade for shovels 1:1. Default price.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonHimes
Are you serious? Just move on already. I have been cheated too. I didn't like it but because of that I made my own ground rules which I follow and stick with (ie. I get the items first unless I've traded with you before). Nobody is going to do anything about your "formal request." You just have to live with it and learn.
Jon, I get that you're upset, but please don't ask for a ban on a player. We're happy to investigate, but lying isn't a crime (even in the US, I'm from there. They have to be doing something criminal, or lying to the law.) and just lying isn't considered abuse. A bad trade is a bad trade, and it's no fun, but all trades are taken at your own risk and we do not punish people for bad trades.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonHimes
On another note, hi Jared, if you're reading this thread, if you have the power, would you mind not sending a lot of brown sugar boats. It seems to come every 3 or 4 boats like what the heck? :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Jared[Supercell]
Hi all! I need planks! I have bolts, tapes, nails, and mallets to trade. Please PM me!
Hi, would like to trade
i have:
Stakes 106 pc
mallet 85pc
deeds 23pc
I need:
Tape, bolt, screw, panel, metal bar, foot stuff or what ever
PM ratio work out
my 0 price : your max price
Immax81
level 56
Hello kind farmers - put simply, I need planks. I will give you any material you need. Normal items, expansion items, you name it. I have a TON of stuff. Just message me what you think is a fair trade for your special little planks and lets make some magic ok? Ok. Happy farming!
I am in need if barn items which I can trade for saws and axes 4:1 ratio 4 of mine and 1 of yours. Planks and tapes priority. Thanks
I need expansion items. I have:
25 panels
23 screws
2 nails
2 tape
2 bolts
1 plank
I ave 2 planks that I will trade of tapes.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmowens01
I have 4 bolts to trade for 4 tapes.
i have:
20 deeds
20 nails
i need:
planks
bolts
1:1 trade :)
I have 16 mallets and 14 stakes for trade. Ill willing to trade for barn/ silo or mining items. Make an offer via pm. I'm flexible.
I agree completely. That is a relationship that was built on trust but not blind trust.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomisnic
I truly believe that a self regulating body that cares for itself holds self preservation paramount. Without checks and balances you have blind trust regardless of the safe guards you choose. Blind trust is altruistic and lacks any reliability and self sustaining measure without incurring potential loss.
Hi, would like to trade
i have:
Stakes 106 pc
mallet 85pc
I need:
Tape, bolt, screw, panel, metal bar, foot stuff or what ever
PM ratio work out
my 0 price : your max price
Immax81
level 56
Doposted......
Offering 12 screws AND 12 panels for 10 bolts.
Hi everyone,
I need to get rid of these axes.
I have 30 axes to trade 1:4 for planks.
And I also have 2 bolts and 10 nails to trade 1:1 for planks.
Please Pm me to trade.
Thank you.
i have
20 stakes
20 mallets
looking for
nails
planks
panels
screws
tape
bolts
Gc:aeesee
10bolts change for 10 duct tape.
Gc me! thanx :)
I have: 10 planks
4 tapes
20 screws
i need:
4 bolts
4 panels
5 deeds
P.M. Me if interested. Serious inquiries only.
jenpcrn, level 27
I have lots of mallets and screws
I need tapes and nails.
Pm if interested in trade.
Updated!
Need:
7 Deeds
Have:
(Mine:Yours)
3 Wood Panels (1:1)
26 Saws (2:1)
5 TNT (1:1)
3 Dynamite (1:1)
Regular Price
I need 6 planks, will trade bolts (1:1) default price please.
Please PM if interested. And please be patient, all trades are first come first trade 😊
Anyone willing to take 2 hammers in exchange for the last plank i need for my next upgrade?
Max price
Hi farmers!
I got:
13 wooden panels
9 screws
I need:
8 nails
Willing to pay more than 1:1 to get the nails. PM me.
I have:
88 panels
19 stakes
17 mallets
13 deeds (1:1)
I need:
Planks
tapes
bolts
Ratio 2:1
Please send PM. Thanks
I am selling 10 screws
I want to buy 10 nails
Max price
Updated!
Need:
7 Deeds
Have:
(Mine:Yours)
3 Wood Panels (1:1)
26 Saws (2:1)
5 TNT (1:1)
3 Dynamite (1:1)
Regular Price
Just had the weirdest thing happened.
I was doing a trade in the last slot and put up 10 stakes, after a while the stakes where still there so i PM' ed my fellow trader and he said he already got them.
We continued trading in the slot next to it and went well there, but now the 10 stakes are still showing up (made an add of them now)
Anybody else experienced this glitch before?
Update, sold to a stranger now...(made some extra coins of them, yippie)
hi
i have 3 deeds for 3 planks default price
interested pls pm
Yes, I had the same thing happen. I also had a trade where after three items traded fine, I put up 2 screws and they stayed and stayed, pm'ed the other party and he could not see them. We both rebooted and they were still there and he could see them and we continued okay. That was strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by katanneke
Sounds like we have some glitches going on.
I have 2 shovels for your 1 plank.
PM if you're interested.
i got:
60 mallets (3:1)
40 stakes (3:1)
18 deeds(1:1)
need:
bolts
nails
pm first plz
Hi
I Got
5 Screws
8 Wood Panel
4 Nails
6 Deeds
10 Markers
I Need
6 Bolts
4 Planks
Trading 1:1 at default price, just pm me :)
I have 6 nails and 6 wood panels
need 6 screws and 6 deeds
trade 1:1 default price
pm me if intrested
Closed
HAVE:
20 mallets
8 deeds
5 stakes
5 tape (1:1)
NEED:
All barn/silo expansions (except tape).
Max price, 2:1
PM if interested.
Thanks!
I have 11 deeds to trade for tape or maybe nails but would prefer tape
Hi farmers
Trade (1:1) (Max price)
I have:
10 nails
10 panels
20 screws
10 axes
10 saws
10 deeds
15 stakes
15 mallets.
I need:
Planks, tapes, bolts.
Pm if interested please!
Hi!
I have mallets and stakes to trade for barn/silo expansion items.
sugar/dairy item may also be accepted.
PM me if you are interested
4 deeds for 4 tapes. Max price. I buy first.
PM me. First come, first serve.
i Trade 8 Nails for 10 Bolts
really need Bolts
I have ALOT of barn and silo material i dont need anymore!
Now i need ALOT of Deeds.
I will trade as high as 2:1 (ME:YOU).
I buy first!
If you're happy with that, send me a PM!
I have:
149 Deeds
74 Marker Stakes
64 mallets
Looking for: BOLTS, Bolts and Bolts PLUS Wood Panels.
PM me with your trade arrangement, GC name and Level. Thanks :D
I have 16 planks that I would like to tade for deeds. 1:1
pm me if interested.
I need planks and nails. I will give you whatever you want for them - just tell me what you want and KABOOM a deal will be made!
PM me you classy beast you.
I think I may have accidentally ruined a trade just now. Would like to return the items. If you read this and just missed out on 8 certain items, PM me the details!