So, uh, SuperSteve... how's this coming along...?

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February 18th, 2014
MaybacLuvsEmeal

In other words, the loot system is intertwined with the next button based on its concept. No loot in the storages for us farmers, we then hit next. Next next next next next next next next. They say the loot system is working as intended. So they want to make it like a console game were you have to sit on the game until you find the loot you want assuming you are a farmer
February 18th, 2014
AndrewtheBoss

Honestly, I don't think the loot's that bad, lol.:rolleyes:
February 18th, 2014
carlito

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Originally Posted by billwinkiesbear

It too find it difficult to care/post constructively nowadays (but it remains that this has been the best game i think i have ever played and will probably remain at that spot for some time), hence i do care.

Absolutely agree with the Enjoyment part, i haven't really enjoyed my game for 3 months, yet i'm still grinding away in the hope that something new / some game changing aspect is introduced that will re-ignite the flame that dwindles.

I envy those who have been able to move on.

I have Trophy Hunted, and i have had my say on that aspect of the game, my opinion on that will not alter, the trophy system still remains the most flawed part of this game.

I think lots of us "old timers" have been hanging on for something different / better / exciting / etc. Hero abilities are good but the end result is the same - the underlying system can get a bit boring - especially if you spend more time searching than chatting to clan mates / raiding. SC know this is needed...is it nearly ready?!?

Yep. Hunting is broken. I dont know how people play like this full time...Gaining cups should be THE way to upgrade your base faster...
February 19th, 2014
xvMAXWELLvx

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Originally Posted by AndrewtheBoss

Honestly, I don't think the loot's that bad, lol.:rolleyes:

Your TH8, of course loot is good for you! Are you trying to be funny or just trolling? My TH7 mini is swimming in loot. The builders can't work fast enough to keep up with the easy amount of gold I pull in.

The exact opposite is true for my TH10. The loot problem is basically TH10 exclusive.
February 19th, 2014
NioTheDreamer

Thoughts....

Lately its starting to baffle me the number of players who do not have loot when I go searching.

I am a very late Th9, very near Th10. Since the update I have played between the ranges of 1800 and 2550.

What I am struck by is the fact I feel like a oasis in a desert when I log off. Why? Well As a Th9 you hit the cap near 4 million but after 3 your base starts to have a fair amount of loot. With DE you hit this cap around 40,000. Except for when I has throwing loot into walls, staying 2 mil or below was very uncommon for me. I frequently log off with a juicy 300/350/2500 showing up as available to other players. Fortunately for me in Crystal II snipers are just plain rampant. I lose a consistent 9-11 trophies to snipers every time I log off. Honestly it baffles me the percent of 10-11 losses I have (meaning I need to be showing 30-33 trophies available to my attacker) when exposed Th up here are so uncommon. My labyrith base has also been really good at attracting ambitious Th8 players who don't realize the intent of my base design. They typically limp away with my Th but only 20% damage to my base.

Anyway, the number of players with loot that isn't even worthwhile showing up in my queue is confusing me. Sure people new to a TH level have insane upgrade demands on there resources but otherwise keeping below the cap seems to be something you'd have to bend over backwards to actually do. Why don't people, besides myself, keep more loot in storage? Now I know the answer but its been over 2 months, haven't people adjusted to the system yet? Why is it the only bases with loot sitting at caps are duel maxed inferno tower bases? (and myself)
February 19th, 2014
billwinkiesbear

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Originally Posted by NioTheDreamer

Lately its starting to baffle me the number of players who do not have loot when I go searching.

I am a very late Th9, very near Th10. Since the update I have played between the ranges of 1800 and 2550.

What I am struck by is the fact I feel like a oasis in a desert when I log off. Why? Well As a Th9 you hit the cap near 4 million but after 3 your base starts to have a fair amount of loot. With DE you hit this cap around 40,000. Except for when I has throwing loot into walls, staying 2 mil or below was very uncommon for me. I frequently log off with a juicy 300/350/2500 showing up as available to other players. Fortunately for me in Crystal II snipers are just plain rampant. I lose a consistent 9-11 trophies to snipers every time I log off. Honestly it baffles me the percent of 10-11 losses I have (meaning I need to be showing 30-33 trophies available to my attacker) when exposed Th up here are so uncommon. My labyrith base has also been really good at attracting ambitious Th8 players who don't realize the intent of my base design. They typically limp away with my Th but only 20% damage to my base.

Anyway, the number of players with loot that isn't even worthwhile showing up in my queue is confusing me. Sure people new to a TH level have insane upgrade demands on there resources but otherwise keeping below the cap seems to be something you'd have to bend over backwards to actually do. Why don't people, besides myself, keep more loot in storage? Now I know the answer but its been over 2 months, haven't people adjusted to the system yet? Why is it the only bases with loot sitting at caps are duel maxed inferno tower bases? (and myself)

It is interesting but maybe the answer is right there in your summary.

The volume of snipers is huge, for example i have a player using his alt account (level 57) sitting in master 2. He got there plain and simple from sniping THs.

But its not just those guys, i have also noticed a trend where other higher level players snipe TH almost as a mark of respect and maybe in the hope that i return the favour, which i would of course.

This is why i have long been an advocate of removing the auto shield from the TH alone. If these bases could not be taken out of match making so easily maybe we would see better available loot when searching.

We are told that the TH is the most important building in our base, and that is absolutely true. No other building offers the salvation of a 12 hrs shield when sitting on high loot. Its brilliant
February 19th, 2014
NioTheDreamer

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Originally Posted by billwinkiesbear

It is interesting but maybe the answer is right there in your summary.

The volume of snipers is huge, for example i have a player using his alt account (level 57) sitting in master 2. He got there plain and simple from sniping THs.

But its not just those guys, i have also noticed a trend where other higher level players snipe TH almost as a mark of respect and maybe in the hope that i return the favour, which i would of course.

This is why i have long been an advocate of removing the auto shield from the TH alone. If these bases could not be taken out of match making so easily maybe we would see better available loot when searching.

We are told that the TH is the most important building in our base, and that is absolutely true. No other building offers the salvation of a 12 hrs shield when sitting on high loot. Its brilliant

I'd like to think the loot issues are allot more than easy shielding, but I am beginning to wonder. I get snipped so often these days its ridiculous. I don't even have a complete free-bee in the corner of the map. Its just sitting on the outside, well in range of my outer defenses.
February 19th, 2014
Giggitygoo

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Originally Posted by billwinkiesbear

This is why i have long been an advocate of removing the auto shield from the TH alone. If these bases could not be taken out of match making so easily maybe we would see better available loot when searching.

We are told that the TH is the most important building in our base, and that is absolutely true. No other building offers the salvation of a 12 hrs shield when sitting on high loot. Its brilliant

The competition is doing that. I have to admit I was at a loss of how to properly defend by base :D.

Anyway, your idea is somewhat in line with Howie's idea of putting 50k in the TH instead of 1K. Either idea would be the most massive overhaul of game balance this game has ever seen. I honestly cannot predict the consequences. With the advantage offense has in this game, people will be losing tons and tons of loot from >40% attacks. On the other hand, there will be an insane influx of players in the queue. Players that have capped like Nio mentioned are suddenly available.

I think even SC couldn't forsee the actual change that would bring. I never see it happening.
February 19th, 2014
Stitch

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Originally Posted by Giggitygoo

The competition is doing that. I have to admit I was at a loss of how to properly defend by base :D.

Anyway, your idea is somewhat in line with Howie's idea of putting 50k in the TH instead of 1K. Either idea would be the most massive overhaul of game balance this game has ever seen. I honestly cannot predict the consequences. With the advantage offense has in this game, people will be losing tons and tons of loot from >40% attacks. On the other hand, there will be an insane influx of players in the queue. Players that have capped like Nio mentioned are suddenly available.

I think even SC couldn't forsee the actual change that would bring. I never see it happening.

This could be spot on or have no affect at all, I'm not sure. I honestly think a very low percentage of players understand farming and the benefits of putting your TH outside. Even at low levels you have to search a while to find one. Sure, they might be getting taken out quickly and so not appearing in match making but unless you're passionate about the game, in an established clan or come on the forums then most casuals just carry on protecting their TH.

I agree with a bigger penalty for losing your TH.

Regarding sniping of THs as respect. I don't do this but would quickly snipe if the base was in the first 5 or 6 searches. After that I've already started building my next army in the background so would rather wait for a better opportunity. ie: I would never snipe after 10 to 20 minutes of searching. I'd rather get a win and some loot and then use the next army which is built. Just my preference.
February 19th, 2014
billwinkiesbear

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Originally Posted by Stitch

Regarding sniping of THs as respect. I don't do this but would quickly snipe if the base was in the first 5 or 6 searches. After that I've already started building my next army in the background so would rather wait for a better opportunity. ie: I would never snipe after 10 to 20 minutes of searching. I'd rather get a win and some loot and then use the next army which is built. Just my preference.

I NEVER do this unless it is a revenge Snipe for a initial Snipe. Which to be fair is not often as my TH is normally always protected. The point is when I do expose my TH (not a euphemism) its normally gone within a minute or two..

This means no collector / Mines raids for anyone, as I will always be logging in before the shield expires.

Maybe reducing the Shield time for 1 star could be an option, not sure if we have had any depth discussion about this but how about bringing the initial shield in-line with the personal Break timing. i.e. 6 Hrs or even Linked to TH Level

so a one star on a TH10 = 6 Hrs
so a one star on a TH 9 = 8 Hrs
so a one star on a TH 8 = 10 Hrs
less than 8 = 12 Hrs

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