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February 14th, 2014
Charlie1

They're amazing totally worth upgrading I collect 900 plus from it a day so yep totally worth it and mines only lvl 3!
February 14th, 2014
chummer1010

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Originally Posted by Pete82

I realize we are kicking a dead horse at this point but.....that is literally our exact argument. That each player should make their own choice based on their own playing style. Hyper-active farmers don't need collectors til around TH9. Everyone else should max them much, much earlier.

Really? Because it sounded like you were implying "Don't max your mines. We are right".
February 14th, 2014
Beancounter

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Originally Posted by Smalls

I'm a glutton for punishment so I'm going to post some numbers here for you guys to read and ponder. Here is the cost and time to upgrade th 7 and 8 straight from the wiki:

For th7, that 276 days equates to 55 days with 5 builder at th7 and you need to get 67 million gold to max it out. At that rate you need to accumulate 1,226,200 a day to max everything in the fastest time possible without gemming. I will say that again: you only need to farm 1,226,200 a day to max out th7. For th8 the 562 days equals 112 days with 5 builders so you need to farm 1,979,372 per day to max .

Have a pleasant day. :-D

Well at least we have some numbers! Keep in mind your builder days are inflated because 48 of those builders days at th7 are for the collectors themselves. So you probably have to farm 1.5 mil a day. Since you have less builder time.

But I am sure that will not be a problem for you. Even though, I find actual avg loot per day is normally far lower then players think.

But that really is the bottom line, no matter what you will have to play more to max a th level then someone who has maxed collectors. Your time, your choice!

I would recommend doing them at tail end of th8. Rather then push them off to th9. You will have some key defence upgrades at the start. And you will need mass amounts of elixir at the start of th9.
February 14th, 2014
macduff79

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Originally Posted by Smalls

I'm a glutton for punishment so I'm going to post some numbers here for you guys to read and ponder. Here is the cost and time to upgrade th 7 and 8 straight from the wiki:

7 67,441,000 30,109,450 105,000 276d 8h 53m 79,575 $579.91

8 223,669,050 71,298,550 382,500 562d 185,708 $1334.84

For th7, that 276 days equates to 55 days with 5 builder at th7 and you need to get 67 million gold to max it out. At that rate you need to accumulate 1,226,200 a day to max everything in the fastest time possible without gemming. I will say that again: you only need to farm 1,226,200 a day to max out th7. For th8 the 562 days equals 112 days with 5 builders so you need to farm 1,979,372 per day to max .

Why would you waste 20 days upgrading mines/collectors when you can farm that? You can't store gold in this game. There's only so much you can spend/hold.

At th9 it becomes 6 million per day. So unless you are a hardcore farmer, this is actually the time when you should max out your mines.

Have a pleasant day. :-D

I agree with this post completely.

I just started playing 3 weeks ago, so I'm only a TH5 (currently being upgraded to TH6), but raiding is a lot more fun than waiting for resources to collect. At the moment, my storages are about half full, and I have nothing for my builders to do until TH6 except to upgrade my mines/collectors. It's pretty boring, but at least they're not idle (I planned this out to get them to level 7-8, but I didn't realize how boring it is not to raid).

As to the argument that the whole CoC economy is based on people having mines/collectors: that is true. I would hope no one is making the decision to have their builders sleep instead of upgrading them, but if the builders are upgrading other things, then clearly there are enough resources in the CoC economy. If there is a scarcity of resources, more people would choose to upgrade collectors/mines, thus increasing the resource output of the CoC economy. That's how economic equilibriums work.
February 14th, 2014
Pete82

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Originally Posted by chummer1010

Really? Because it sounded like you were implying "Don't max your mines. We are right".

Read my posts, not anyone else's. I'm not like that man, nor did I mean to imply that. I simplly provided a different viewpoint for a different type of player.
February 14th, 2014
Pete82

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Originally Posted by Beancounter

I would recommend doing them at tail end of th8. Rather then push them off to th9. You will have some key defence upgrades at the start. And you will need mass amounts of elixir at the start of th9.

I agree, I am doing them now at the tail end of TH8. I actually chuckled this morning as I put in a level 9 mine upgrade, because of this thread.
February 14th, 2014
iceze

Ok, have to post here since some of the backlash people are getting over not maxing their collectors ASAP.

I think we can all agree that maxing DE drills are a great priority and should be done earlier on.

Mines and collectors? I personally have them at lvl9 right now.

Up until th8 I was able to keep 4 of my builders busy non stop. I maxed both walls and elixir upgrades before going th9. I didn’t max all defences as I would have been stuck with max elixir for days which imo is better spent progressing to th9 and using it on new upgrades.

Did I need to spend longer maxing my collectors? I saw no reason to spend this time on maxing collectors. My limiting factor was building time.

I didn't buy my fifth builder but if I did, I probably could have managed to keep my fifth busy too.

Th9 though has been quite resource intensive. Upgrades are 5m+ and walls are expensive. Now is the time to max collectors.

This is my play style as a farmer. If you can't farm so much, then I would advise anyone to max their mines/pumps much sooner. Most people should indeed upgrade early.

Everyone has their own play style and what they think is most important.

iceze - clan: OPS Overlord
February 14th, 2014
Bullet2head

I've signed up for this forum specifically to post in this thread. This is outright mind boggling.

There's a very simple situation here: maxing out your pumps/mines/drills provides more resources than if you do not. There's no if's or but's about it. It doesn't matter if you raid 10,000,000 a day, it doesn't matter if you take a week break, it doesn't matter if you gem and max out your base to th10 in a week. At the end of the day, you will get more resources if you upgrade your mines/pumps/drills.

Anything else you say about how much you pull in raiding or what your defenses will provide is completely irrelevant to this discussion. The fact of the matter is you make more resources by upgrading them. Flat out. End of. There is absolutely no reason to not upgrade them if you want more resources. Maxing them out provides more benefit than not maxing them. Raid or not, gem or not.
February 14th, 2014
yesup

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Originally Posted by iceze

Th9 though has been quite resource intensive. Upgrades are 5m+ and walls are expensive. Now is the time to max collectors.
This is my play style as a farmer. If you can't farm so much, then I would advise anyone to max their mines/pumps much sooner. Most people should indeed upgrade early.
Everyone has their own play style and what they think is most important.

Regardless of your playing style, you should upgrade it earlier.

TH9 has so many things to upgrade and need so much resources and so much time that sparing builders' time for mines/collectors upgrades would just make things worse.
February 14th, 2014
Bfoz

Do them they give u free loot for no effort just like hogs :o

7	67,441,000	30,109,450	105,000	276d 8h 53m	79,575	$579.91
8	223,669,050	71,298,550	382,500	562d	185,708	$1334.84

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