Kings Landing for a clean game.

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February 9th, 2014
zachUVA

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Originally Posted by Stefm211

did id you not notice the " not accusing you" comment? It just gets to me that everytime talk of the shenanigans that go on up there pops up, someone trots out the old "but its soooo hard up there, you don't know!" argument. Yes its hard,I fully acknowledge that but as I pointed out none of those players has a gun to their head forcing them to maintain that trophy count, it's fully their choice.

I'm not arguing that it makes what they are doing any less awful; never have. As I said above, I'm talking about another point entirely.
February 9th, 2014
ingame1

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Originally Posted by Thorzain

I'm afraid there is no way to answer this comment without a bit of education and history lessons as painful and arrogant as it seems.
The goal of this game isn't the number one player spot despite whatever youtuber and strong opinionated TH2 think.

Every 2 weeks we have a tournament, this is the finish line, the holy grail, this is where you get a golden cup and even a meaningless amount of gems.
Ever since North44 called its feeders for help alliances were born, now let's jump in time, to counter that new technique Clans United was formed and players from all around the world gathered to beat the "corrupt" N44...
Alliances are now extremely common and our competitors are using the same strategies even if they complain about it.
Trust me, cheap shields are everywhere.

Now let's talk about Kings Landing and what it truly means for a clan like mine.
We have Mega, Q8 Force and Made In Italy as allies, every 2 weeks the top players of those clans form a cup clan and we usually win, that means every 2 weeks our alliances become 1 and only clan.

People like me don't care about cheap shields, we just defend and hope for the best, only top players are trying to get an edge using them.
So let's say a top KL player gets out for a defence and let's consider 100% of the players in his range are online.
He'll hope someone from KL, Q8, Mega and Made in will find him before Bonbee Canada, North 44, Quantum's Web, War Imperium, Gulf Knights, Made in Turkey, another arab clan, Ice Ice Baby, Chinatown etc...

Who do you think will find him first?

That's right, more often than not, our opponents.

There is no pandora box, just a huge miscommunication on our part and a lot of sensationalism on the other side.
We are no angels but we are no devils either.

Thanks for your educational reply, really, but it doesn't clear waters at all, just smoke and mirrors. How do you chose those who are going to be "the top players"? Why all the people in those clans accept of losing trophies and waste their time? Just to see this super clan every 2 weeks winning the tournament, a clan where they are not even in? Come on, stop kidding please.
February 9th, 2014
BonbeeTyrael

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Originally Posted by Stefm211

did id you not notice the " not accusing you" comment? It just gets to me that everytime talk of the shenanigans that go on up there pops up, someone trots out the old "but its soooo hard up there, you don't know!" argument. Yes its hard,I fully acknowledge that but as I pointed out none of those players has a gun to their head forcing them to maintain that trophy count, it's fully their choice.

Actually, the players are kinda putting a gun to their own heads. There's a mentality that comes with it. Your trophies are all that matters, your rank is all that matters. And even being #1 isn't good enough, you have to be so high up noone can reach you. You have to set the records...if you don't do these things then you feel like a failure. It becomes engrained into your mind.

In an interview Jorge Yao said "After any loss he would stay online for 48 hours straight(before personal break was added) fueled by self loathing and redbull". This is what most of them feel. They feel that their life depends on that number.
February 9th, 2014
PerezHilton

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

On the whole attacking thing, let me give a little bit of perspective here.

I am currently at 3752 cups, and I have been searching for over 2 hours and 15 minutes (+/- a few minutes), and the HIGEST cup offer I have seen is 5. As in, if I were to 3-star the base, I would get 5 trophies. Now just imagine how much worse this has to be at 4000+ where these guys have far fewer targets than I do. I'd say they hardly ever see anything worth more than 1-3 cups.

Sure, attacking might be easy, but you can't move up much in trophies if there is no one to attack. It is tough to even make up what you lose from a force break as it is.

I sincerely diidn't kow that...

So staying in the TOP, is exactly the same of being TH1 with -200 trophies...
You get just 3 cups for winning, and lose 40 for losing...

Now THAT doesn't make any sense.

Now I understand why Supercell does nothing against those "fluffybunny" techniques, because until they decide to fix the trophy system, that "fluffybunnny" is the only way to play in champs league...
February 9th, 2014
BonbeeTyrael

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Originally Posted by PerezHilton

I sincerely diidn't kow that...

So staying in the TOP, is exactly the same of being TH1 with -200 trophies...
You get just 3 cups for winning, and lose 40 for losing...

Now THAT doesn't make any sense.

Now I understand why Supercell does nothing against those "fluffybunny" techniques, because until they decide to fix the trophy system, that "fluffybunnny" is the only way to play in champs league...

Yes, this!

This is why Champion League is a 'broken' 'joke'.
February 9th, 2014
BonbeeTyrael

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Originally Posted by ingame1

Thanks for your educational reply, really, but it doesn't clear waters at all, just smoke and mirrors. How do you chose those who are going to be "the top players"? Why all the people in those clans accept of losing trophies and waste their time? Just to see this super clan every 2 weeks winning the tournament, a clan where they are not even in? Come on, stop kidding please.

By having players 11-50 intentionally leaving clan attacking and losing to the top10 in a clan the clans ranking will go up even though the total trophies of the players remains the same. The top10 players have the highest weight on their trophies towards clan points so moving trophies from the bottom to the top will increase the clans standing.
February 9th, 2014
Kingdon

1. If you have the guts to post this on the forums don't be afraid to call out that "misinformed youtuber"
2. Cool Story Bro...
February 9th, 2014
Nahi

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Originally Posted by Thorzain

As much as I agree with you nothing can justify ♥♥♥♥♥ing, the few people who know me behind the scene are aware of my constant devotion to making the game cleaner and fairer.
I cannot share the beginning of the things I've done to try to improve this situation, this my only public attempt.
But imagine being voted co leader of KL with my program... Trust me, I'm doing my fair share.

At the end of the day, competition or not, this is still just a game and having fun should be our number 1 priority.
Our lives aren't on the line, we aren't competing for a billion dollars, this is not a war.
The reason I'm doing this is because I want to improve a difficult situation but also because I love my clan and my friends and I don't want to watch everything we built tainted by corruption accusations.
We are arrogant enough to believe we don't need that program to be among the very best.

My complete support to you. I donno why the so called youtuber generalizes stuff,
I have not yet been at champ level yet, so that may not make me worthy of giving comments. But i dont think saying that everybody at champ league are 'che ating' is a good way, it shows immaturity imo.

imo, there should be a maturity in understanding what is "chea ting" and unethical. I completely agree and support OP for the fairness and transparency.

Pondering where should lines be drawn :
- There are multiple players on the forums that have more than one account, some even have 3 or more, isnt that against Tos ?
- Many are in the same clan donating to themselves, wouldnt that be called chea ting ?
-The second account does not meat clan requirements but since the main account player is elder or co-leader, he accepts himself, ist that unethical ?
- or donating/receiving the highest troops you desire exactly to yourself. I know couple of clan mates who donate lvl 6 giants or loons to their 30 level second account, and share replay that only with CC they could 3 star a base, Isnt this 'chea ting' ?
- When you are farming in gold, and you come across one of your family clan player(Or a friend) as opponent, what would you do ? would you skip it, attack with all your might, or give a shield. Isnt that 'unethical' that you are biased in attack based on the opponents name ??
- A person puts his TH outside to get a cheap shield and save resources, isnt that chea ting ?
- Youtuber gets gems through 'unetical' means of third party subscription and fooling people, but still calls others chea ting and unethical ... pity

To my understanding the gameplay at champ league should have different set of rules, same policies like in gold league will not work. Getting 1 cup for win and 30 to lose is really not a good position to be in.
February 9th, 2014
ingame1

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

By having players 11-50 intentionally leaving clan attacking and losing to the top10 in a clan the clans ranking will go up even though the total trophies of the players remains the same. The top10 players have the highest weight on their trophies towards clan points so moving trophies from the bottom to the top will increase the clans standing.

Thanks, i knew how the clan score is calculated, still that does not justify people for intentionally losing, why they do it. We'll be soon call minis into account, that's another side of this unethical moon.
February 9th, 2014
BonbeeTyrael

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Originally Posted by ingame1

Thanks, i knew how the clan score is calculated, still that does not justify people for intentionally losing, why they do it. We'll be soon call minis into account, that's another side of this unethical moon.

These players are willing to do whatever it takes to advance their clan. Pack mentality.

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