Losing interest in the game for specific reasons

I really loved this game, been playing for many months now. But it's starting to get boring 1) Everything now costs too much and takes too long: It's almost impossible to save enough as I keep getting raided - e.g. I have 2.3m elixir and coins, then get raided down to 1.9. get up to 2.4 and get raided down to 1.95. repeat, repeat, repeat. I need approx 12m to upgrade defences, troops, and at this rate will take months literally. I will then need close to 20m of each to upgrade walls, spells etc - and base costs are 7m just for the base.. it will take a year to get to that point at this rate. 2) Raiding - When attacking I search for villages that will give me 150K+ of each but only getting anything from 4K to 60K no matter how many times you skip to the next.. its costs me between 200K and 500K to train the troops - so raiding is now pointless source of income. I love this game but the game play is now tedious, slow, frustrating. Only option - spend real money on gems.. I've already bought lots and although SuperCell need to make money - kind of the point! - the only way to progress now is to spend spend spend.. I think I'll be uninstalling this unless things change. thanks. FE

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Originally Posted by futureechos

I really loved this game, been playing for many months now. But it's starting to get boring 1) Everything now costs too much and takes too long: It's almost impossible to save enough as I keep getting raided - e.g. I have 2.3m elixir and coins, then get raided down to 1.9. get up to 2.4 and get raided down to 1.95. repeat, repeat, repeat. I need approx 12m to upgrade defences, troops, and at this rate will take months literally. I will then need close to 20m of each to upgrade walls, spells etc - and base costs are 7m just for the base.. it will take a year to get to that point at this rate. 2) Raiding - When attacking I search for villages that will give me 150K+ of each but only getting anything from 4K to 60K no matter how many times you skip to the next.. its costs me between 200K and 500K to train the troops - so raiding is now pointless source of income. I love this game but the game play is now tedious, slow, frustrating. Only option - spend real money on gems.. I've already bought lots and although SuperCell need to make money - kind of the point! - the only way to progress now is to spend spend spend.. I think I'll be uninstalling this unless things change. thanks. FE

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YOU ARE:
Lack of patience
Lack of determination
Lack of perseverace
Lack of motivation
To do hardwork on your village to be stronger.

The game is the best until TH7, I think.
After that It can get rather annoying.
Currently playing much less as a TH8. Why play if I need to wait several days until a builder becomes free.
I wait until a builder is free, then farm the amount needed in a longer session and start the upgrade. Then play only little the next days. It was more fun until TH7, where very update did not take too long.
I chat with my clanmates however, donate and watch replays, not bothering about my own base in those long build times at all.

I guess, SC speculate that people get so hooked on the game in the first TH levels, that they start to buy every update from then onwards. Some people surely do, some people become hardcore farmers, some buy gems to finish the upgrade times (has become too expensive for me with these long times)...the majority, I believe however, just quits coc or plays only occasionally after reaching TH8.

I found TH8 to be the pinnacle of fun, since it was still relatively easy to max out walls, defences and such. I'm currently TH9 and just started upgrading my last defences, but I find wall grinding to be somewhat tideous right now. I'm planning to upgrade my TH soonish and level my heroes and walls as much as possible (got 80 something level 9 walls, rest level 8).

You will have to change your farming mentality and switch between cup ranges more often (or maybe that is just an effect on overall changes in loot, more likely), but I think your mindset is key. Will you be able to max out everything on your TH level? Yes, but it will take more time and effort than what you are previously used to from earlier THs.

Can TH9 (don't get me started on TH10 :rolleyes:) be maxed if playing casually? Probably, but only being able to play for short amounts of time spread out during the day will make things harder, since you can get raided inbetween gaming sessions, losing very hefty amounts to TH10s.

I recommend swapping to an anti-hog layout as soon as you've got your X-bows maxed, which should be your priority. Hogs are not OP, certainly not when used by bad people who think they're the go-to option for farming, but you need to use a different approach to defend against them. Good TH10s (and possibly TH9s) will be able to level your base with hogs no matter of your layout as TH9, but I still haven't been attacked by such in gold/crystal leagues.

OP, I would quit if I were you. Seriously, TH8 is a breeze compared to TH9 and up. If you don't find the game fun as a TH8 because of the costs, you'd definitely won't enjoy it later on. I'm a maxed TH9 upgrading my townhall as we speak. In didn't enjoy it as much lately as I used to. Then I decided to don't worry about builders sleeping. That made the game a lot more fun. Also made me finish my lvl9 walls in record time. Maybe that's something you can try.

after some point this game becomes a grind. Long upgrade times and huge costs. Ive been a TH10 for some time now and personally the 2 weeks upgrade time is nothing. What is really holding me back are the costs. I have to save 8 million to upgrade anything. The first 3-4 million is easy, but having over 4 million makes you a huge target and you constantly get raided. In the end I end up saving about 10-12 million for a 8 million upgrade after you factor out all my losses. I have 5 builders but im lucky if I have 2 or 3 working at once. Mostly they just wait around hoping to clear bushes....

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Originally Posted by PinoyExclusive

YOU ARE: Lack of patience Lack of determination Lack of perseverace Lack of motivation To do hardwork on your village to be stronger.

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LOL. YOU ARE: Lack of Spelling Lack of Grammar OK I'm just teasing, no offense meant. I'm not great in my second language.

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Originally Posted by Benny101

OP, I would quit if I were you. Seriously, TH8 is a breeze compared to TH9 and up. If you don't find the game fun as a TH8 because of the costs, you'd definitely won't enjoy it later on. I'm a maxed TH9 upgrading my townhall as we speak. In didn't enjoy it as much lately as I used to. Then I decided to don't worry about builders sleeping. That made the game a lot more fun. Also made me finish my lvl9 walls in record time. Maybe that's something you can try.

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Yeah - I think time to give up. I have 3 kids and a job - there's not enough time in the day to do this properly. SuperCell - shame as people like me may have the most spare cash to squander on games. - Superb game though - the graphics and attention to detail was greatly appreciated - thank you.

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Originally Posted by futureechos

Yeah - I think time to give up. I have 3 kids and a job - there's not enough time in the day to do this properly. SuperCell - shame as people like me may have the most spare cash to squander on games. - Superb game though - the graphics and attention to detail was greatly appreciated - thank you.

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Its a shame you are giving up, however, if the game was too easy then many more people would have maxed bases, get bored and give up as well.

While yes it does take perseverance and dedication to get into the maxed TH9, TH10 area of the game, but it can only get harder. I missed the 'difficult' middle stages as I gemmed from TH6 to TH9 and took a good 6-7 months to finally max my TH9. It was a long time of playing catch-up but gave great satisfaction when I had finally done it.

Either way, it is up to you what route you take and if you decide to quit or not. I dont see myself quitting, even if i just log on daily and collect gold and plow it into walls. At least I will still be making progress :p

lol what army costs 200 to 500K? seems a lot like a complain thread about the loot again.
and losing 400K recources..?! you must be doing something wrong

I've lost 1 million in a day all from winning my defenses. Imagine losing 300k but win the defense with 37% three or four times in a row!

I'd quit if I were you. If TH8 is too hard, then you'll never make it much farther...

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Originally Posted by futureechos

I really loved this game, been playing for many months now. But it's starting to get boring 1) Everything now costs too much and takes too long: It's almost impossible to save enough as I keep getting raided - e.g. I have 2.3m elixir and coins, then get raided down to 1.9. get up to 2.4 and get raided down to 1.95. repeat, repeat, repeat. I need approx 12m to upgrade defences, troops, and at this rate will take months literally. I will then need close to 20m of each to upgrade walls, spells etc - and base costs are 7m just for the base.. it will take a year to get to that point at this rate. 2) Raiding - When attacking I search for villages that will give me 150K+ of each but only getting anything from 4K to 60K no matter how many times you skip to the next.. its costs me between 200K and 500K to train the troops - so raiding is now pointless source of income. I love this game but the game play is now tedious, slow, frustrating. Only option - spend real money on gems.. I've already bought lots and although SuperCell need to make money - kind of the point! - the only way to progress now is to spend spend spend.. I think I'll be uninstalling this unless things change. thanks. FE

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Drop lower and just do epic raids. Just entertain yourself.

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Originally Posted by PinoyExclusive

YOU ARE:
Lack of patience
Lack of determination
Lack of perseverace
Lack of motivation
To do hardwork on your village to be stronger.

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Haha, lol...

It's like... yeah... we are all cyber warriors.

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Originally Posted by futureechos

Yeah - I think time to give up. I have 3 kids and a job - there's not enough time in the day to do this properly. SuperCell - shame as people like me may have the most spare cash to squander on games. - Superb game though - the graphics and attention to detail was greatly appreciated - thank you.

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Wonderful post my friend. I can tell you are a mature individual. I don't always fit the same description... But I try. Good luck with all!

The latest update confirmed a continuing trend for higher level players...

If you dont
1) gem heavily
2) attack constantly
3) gem to attack

Then you cannot hope to be competitive at the higher end of Th10. You can never mine enough to advance or save for building projects. In itself, this is not a criticism, it is just the reality of the game. The problem for the game and the economic system is that people at my level 2700-3000 cups simply stop playing competitively. I rarely raid because it is simply not worth it, I get raided once a day losing a few cups and not much resources - because all my elix goes to lower level clanmates and all my gold goes into upg one wall at a time. I occassionally raid for DE in revenge attacks. I havnt moved beyond the 2700-3000 trophy range for at least 6 months. Im not surprised higher level players are finding little or no loot as most of the people I know who are at the same level as me have adopted a similar approach.

yes same here , i just slow down upgrade walls and play 2-3 times a day....

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Originally Posted by CHINOBEER

I've lost 1 million in a day all from winning my defenses. Imagine losing 300k but win the defense with 37% three or four times in a row!

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You really need a new base design. You have 4 storage that are easily accessible from any side of attack. What the heck is your if towers protecting there is nothing close to them.

I´m th8.

And so easy get each raid :).

http://i57.tinypic.com/i52c0i.png

I have 6m of gold and 5m of elixir easy.

Today i lost 198k gold and 188k elixir of one player lvl 98 :).

Things really drag when your new to th9. I think it took me 2 months before my standard raiding army was at th9 levels. That is between upgrading the lab, upgrading troops, and upgrading camps. Which I felt was an awful long time to basically feel like a th8 raiding with a loot penalty. After than things were allot better


The loot change dried up my favorite farming zone, Crystal III. It was a great place to find a mix of challenging raids broken up by a few easy ones here and there. I could get gold, DE and elixir without major problems. I can still raid now but I feel like I have to commit to either gold/elixir raiding or DE raiding.

What really bores me though is nothing, raiding wise, has really changed allot lately. Traps were given upgrades - which was a big/little change(change things but didn't really impact what compositions were effective), loot was changed (just made some strategies more profitable), heros (a bit interesting but when I constantly have one upgrading I don't get the full enjoyment).

As a result I took up Looning not far back. So now I do Barch (sprinkle in a few giants), Balloon/Drag (when my coffers need to get a little emptier), and Looning. I am set to be able to mass hog and plan to play around with lvl 4 Valkyries.

But as the game progresses you'll find you'll have months were your locked into a single strategy because your waiting on upgrades. Personally defensive upgrade times don't bother me, I make do. But offensive ones seem painful because they affect my raiding.

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Originally Posted by tyson888

You really need a new base design. You have 4 storage that are easily accessible from any side of attack. What the heck is your if towers protecting there is nothing close to them.

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agreed! Even with my downgraded time spent playing, a lot of time i spend hiding behind a shield or attacks that get maybe 1-2 of my gold storage.

Now if i get 10 attacks in 5 days (12 hour shield per attack) 9/10 are just townhall snipe.

Maybe it is now different for TH8 (i move to th9 a long time ago) but it all comes down to design and placing your TH outside is the key feature. I'm almost betting people like you are the ones who place the townhall on the inside.

I do agree and disagree with OP. Post mid-TH9 the game becomes a grind, for both resources, upgrade times. The primary reason most continue to play is because of social aspects of clan, push, whining on forums etc.

I have a mini-TH8 and am spending more time there than main account. The initial reason was to donate myself troops but i realized TH8 is much more fun.
(BTW, i skipped TH8 on main account so dont really remember all the good things you could enjoy)

TH11 is not gonna come soon, because th10 itself is not stabilized. I am not really talking about th15. Think about 3 -5 weeks of upgrades, or Lvl 6 Inferno towers !!!

I think the game is not really designed for very active TH9 (Mid-to-Max) and TH10s. I personally think SC just wants the game to be dragged for another year before calling it quits. ONe more year is very good accomplishment for a mobile game (lets not forget about that)

On the other hand the game is very addictive and very social, and I wish i could really have fun much longer reasonably, without being forced to play 3 hrs straight to make some progress ...

On a funny note : The hardcore farmers/cup hunters spend 10-12 hrs a day playing the game, but supercell employees are paid only for 8 hrs a day, seems very contradicting ... *sob*sob*

it depends.

I have my TH on the outisde, but it wonly works until I have 4 million gold. Then I get almost no more TH snipers but a maxed out TH9 army taking my base down, no matter what.

Problem the OP is most likely in is, that if you play in your work breaks (where most adult people play a mobile game), the time is too short to find a good base to raid (NEXT issue) and you must break shield several times a day only to be raided right afterwards.

I gave that up as well completely, as I was going nowhere.

Luckily I have time to play several hours every couple of days, so I can still progress. For people without that possibility and wanting to play in their breaks several times a day for some minutes, COC is not the right game once you reach TH8.
It's what it is. That is why a large percentage of the (all in all few) abandonded bases I come around are in fact TH8 or premmie TH9. People just realise it's not going anywhere and quit or just log in once a week to collect from their mines.

Going retire. my reason : so "many" loot. until i got depressed finding it. usually 100x pressing next for getting <200k lol
ill watching over the update. i think im going back if super"cell" fix the loot system ty


sorry for my bad english :D

I think the point when you get upset about being raided is when you should quit. Unlike the thoughts of most people on the forums, upgrading isn't everything. Having fun is the key to the game. If you don't have fun playing, then don't play.

Theyre not gonna change. Move your storages/collectos outsidde. Thabk you

you probably shouldn't break the shield during work break, especially like coffee breaks. However lunch breaks are usually more feasible. In that amount of time I can usually do two raids, almost certainly offsetting the loss of the coming raid, and my third raid usually would need a long time waiting, during which I would have been raided and placed under shield anyway, so I have no problem logging off.

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Originally Posted by acealive

it depends.

I have my TH on the outisde, but it wonly works until I have 4 million gold. Then I get almost no more TH snipers but a maxed out TH9 army taking my base down, no matter what.

Problem the OP is most likely in is, that if you play in your work breaks (where most adult people play a mobile game), the time is too short to find a good base to raid (NEXT issue) and you must break shield several times a day only to be raided right afterwards.

I gave that up as well completely, as I was going nowhere.

Luckily I have time to play several hours every couple of days, so I can still progress. For people without that possibility and wanting to play in their breaks several times a day for some minutes, COC is not the right game once you reach TH8.
It's what it is. That is why a large percentage of the (all in all few) abandonded bases I come around are in fact TH8 or premmie TH9. People just realise it's not going anywhere and quit or just log in once a week to collect from their mines.

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Originally Posted by Alweert

Theyre not gonna change. Move your storages/collectos outsidde. Thabk you

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sure you can raid my lv 2 collector here, my highest collector lv 7 hahah

anyway, i usually sit online here, so i rarely get raided haha. its just im tired pressing next button x_x

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Originally Posted by Merl1n

Its a shame you are giving up, however, if the game was too easy then many more people would have maxed bases, get bored and give up as well.

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Indeed a double edged sword when it comes to the gameplay and the need for higher costs for upgrades. Sadly,if at TH8 you are having these issues I would indeed say it is time to find a new game as it goes steeply downhill from there.

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Originally Posted by Wenyan

you probably shouldn't break the shield during work break, especially like coffee breaks. However lunch breaks are usually more feasible. In that amount of time I can usually do two raids, almost certainly offsetting the loss of the coming raid, and my third raid usually would need a long time waiting, during which I would have been raided and placed under shield anyway, so I have no problem logging off.

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oh I don't break shield anymore during coffee breaks. I play another game at those breaks now :)
Lunch break also gives me only time for one match, as I also need to have lunch and I have only 30 minutes break.
I log in to coc, donate some troops and then play another game for 5 to 10 minutes after my meal.

I wished I could play coc in my coffee and lunch breaks as well as I used to do, and not only play at home.
But I would sabotage the progress that I make in my long evening sessions by doing so, which I have like 3 times a week :)
Riding out the shields during the rest of the time is better for my progress. I still wanna max out that TH8, before I decide about my future in coc.

Gonna open up a second account soon as well, really looking forward to that !
Oh those early TH days of quick progress in coc, that is gonna be so nice.

Feeling the same growing boredom. As a potential cure I have thought about upgrading to th10 so I would have access to the rest of max troops and then just play on offensive. So what if I lose on defense? Basicly just forget about keeping builders busy, just play when I feel like it to try win raids as high as possible.

Working for months and years to no real conclusion, sounds very similar to the old Spectrum game, made, I think by Phoenix. in the 80's.You never 'won' but you stole (raided), traded (donate/receive) and upgraded lots and lots.

I played it well into the early 90's, altogether for about 5 years with no real way of winning...I never even stopped playing, my Spectrum gave up on me and I didn't replace it.

Even back then, open ended gameplay wasn't to everyone's taste, many of my friends tried it and went back to Track and Field pretty quickly which gave instant feedback. Me, I always loved this type of loosely structured game where you can play how you like. Be 'good and noble' and donate lots of highly prized troops, or be a bit more 'morally flexible' and Hop or Troll for whatever you can get. All bring something to this highly sophisticated, intelligent (not really for kids) game...come on, who doesn't love booting Hoppers and trolls once you're on to them? ;)

If you're more a Track and Field guy, then go and play those sorts of games but don't criticise this game just because it's not to your taste, when it is to many other peoples.

Could trade Slaves in Elite by the way...imagine that nowadays!

You've reached the part in the game where SC is basically telling you to buy gems or get lost. A drug dealer does the same thing: gives you some for free and then starts charging you when you're hooked. It's ghoulish and sadistic, but people are always more than happy to give their money to ghoulish sadists. Clash on!

How strange that a game gets thougher with more experience..

It is a game.. You win, you lose.. It should be about fun..!! Townhall lvl doesn't matter.. You have an army and you go raid/crush an enemy.. You should also max your village before upgrading TH.. I did this.. Took me a long time.. But who cares.. I did it.. now i'm th9.. Still having fun.. Waiting for better troops.. Perfect..!! Means you don't get slapped around by people with no patience..

If you don't have fun playing this game.. You should quit..
If you say SC wants your money.. They would make it cheaper..

long upgrade times and high cost.. Good.. Gives you time to save up..
lose to much loot.. Build a decent base or drop in cups..
can't find loot.. Learn how to farm, anybody can do this..

You all sound like babies that think satisfaction comes with higher troops and better defence..

Higher troops means higher TH what means more loot but harder to get..
Better defence means you get better opponents, the weak won't try...

But this is my opinion.. Could be wrong..

Just have FUN..!!

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Originally Posted by Fabriek

If you say SC wants your money.. They would make it cheaper..

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Okay, I do now hereby declare: "SC wants your money."

Now I will wait for them to "make it cheaper". The flock of flying pigs outside my window thinks it's a sure thing.

Excuse me for not being english..

let me try again..

If you say SC wants your money.. You are wrong..

If they want your money they will lower costs so much that everybody will gem their th10 base..

Meaning.. There will be no easy farming.. People get bored.. People quit.. Nobody left to attack.. Game stops..

Yeah..

at least your finished in 1 month.. Instead of... Ehh 5 years or so..

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Originally Posted by Fabriek

If you say SC wants your money.. You are wrong..

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So, Supercell is in business to not make money?

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Originally Posted by Fabriek

If they want your money they will lower costs so much that everybody will gem their th10 base..

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Really? Do you have this in writing from Supercell?

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Originally Posted by Fabriek

Meaning.. There will be no easy farming.. People get bored.. People quit.. Nobody left to attack.. Game stops..

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So, you're saying that Supercell is not in business to make money, and if they wanted money from the people who play their games, they will lower the cost of gems. But if they do that, people will get bored and leave? It's an interesting theory I suppose, but it sounds very, (oh, how do I put this politely...), incorrect.

Yeah..

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Originally Posted by Fabriek

at least your finished in 1 month.. Instead of... Ehh 5 years or so..

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Yup, I'm just going to consider this a language barrier thing. Businesses are in business to make money. Businesses want money. That's what businesses are and what businesses do. You should probably get that straight before you leave the house again. I mean that in the friendliest possible way.

You have bad days and good days... more bad days since I'm TH lvl10

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Originally Posted by futureechos

I really loved this game, been playing for many months now. But it's starting to get boring 1) Everything now costs too much and takes too long: It's almost impossible to save enough as I keep getting raided - e.g. I have 2.3m elixir and coins, then get raided down to 1.9. get up to 2.4 and get raided down to 1.95. repeat, repeat, repeat. I need approx 12m to upgrade defences, troops, and at this rate will take months literally. I will then need close to 20m of each to upgrade walls, spells etc - and base costs are 7m just for the base.. it will take a year to get to that point at this rate. 2) Raiding - When attacking I search for villages that will give me 150K+ of each but only getting anything from 4K to 60K no matter how many times you skip to the next.. its costs me between 200K and 500K to train the troops - so raiding is now pointless source of income. I love this game but the game play is now tedious, slow, frustrating. Only option - spend real money on gems.. I've already bought lots and although SuperCell need to make money - kind of the point! - the only way to progress now is to spend spend spend.. I think I'll be uninstalling this unless things change. thanks. FE

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Put your TH on the outside of your base. Your problems will go away.

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Originally Posted by tyson888

You really need a new base design. You have 4 storage that are easily accessible from any side of attack. What the heck is your if towers protecting there is nothing close to them.

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I guess I should put my TH outside my walls as really the main design change needed. But then I would not get the awesome replays I get. Sometimes I wonder if it's worth it. Well Im at least considering a pure farming base....

This game is all about the grind. That's what I love about it :)