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Hopefully won't get banned with my first post...
I see lots of posts/mention of posts of apparent trouble at the top?
Does it really effect us mere mortals?
I have noticed that there are a few players in the to 200 that have a total blank attack/defence record. Not even attack:0 defence:0, it's just blank. Anybody know what that's about?
WastingBashers - good friendly donating clan. Pop in past for a visit.
Dont worry, you wont get banned. Just dont name any specific player, alright?
And to answer your post, some are accusing the top player of c h e a ting/h a c king, but no one actually knows, so its all speculation.
yes, this is strange.
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Originally Posted by Coyle
Yeah I picked that up. No naming and shaming. You wonder why, of they are so good, have such a good base, they would take it that far. An obsession too far perhaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaSite
you will be banned because you are talking of ♥♥♥♥s and ♥♥♥♥♥sQuote:
Originally Posted by Coyle
After 2 weeks, there is a league reset so u loose your league, donations/attacks won/defenses won go to 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyle
I believe you are incorrect good sir. There have been plenty of people who have talked about such topics, without naming and shaming, who are still around today.Quote:
Originally Posted by libero
but the threads aren't :cool::cool::cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaSite
I think you will find I have talked of no such thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by libero
as for the other post regarding the league reset, I am very much aware of this, what I'm saying is there are players with no counters next to their name in the top player list. Not even zeroes. It's just blank.
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Originally Posted by libero
No you won't get banned. But the thread is likely to be locked, as there are a lot more like it discussing the same thing.
a few players seem to have had no shield for quite some time now which is impossible without them finding some way around the 8 hour kickout think, either that or being not having a shield somehow aids them in staying so high. Either way these threads usually seem to disappear.
As long as they don't make me disappear!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dardy
I see, so its conspiracy theories all round? If true, it would be interesting to hear any player found to be bending the rules' reason for it.
Steve said they were looking into it.
Maybe they just bought shields, and nothing has been posted to their stats since the leagues reset.
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Originally Posted by facescraper
Someone complained earlier they could not revenge because the player was always online, so from that we know they avoid the 8 hours kick&attack somehow.
4 days since reset. Max of a 3 day shield (1 day and a 2 day). That theory doesn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by tankgirl
There is a week shield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyle
Not at Champs League.Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousOnline
Nope there is no week shield at 3200+ trophies (champions league)Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerousOnline
Thanks, I did not know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyle
no reason to start a new thread about this issue
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post1403511
Just don't be specific about players or clans. Use general terms like you did saying "the top 200." And welcome to the forums!
Farmers whining about lack of inactive bases now know where to go...
Welcome to the forums Coyle! If this was your first post, you earn a special thank you!! Thank you :)
As you might have noticed, there have been other threads about this topic, but a big problem with some of them has been that some forum members have publicly accused some people of illegal activities. That's not allowed. Naming names is unacceptable. I'm quoting our brilliant moderator Cricks, she summarised this perfectly :) (I couldn't find the original post, sorry for not linking.)
Note: this was originally posted on Hay Day side, but the principles apply here too.
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"Calling someone out and accusing them publicly of ♥♥♥♥♥ing without any proof (or even with proof) is totally unacceptable on this forum. It shows total disregard for the privacy of that person, which is their entitlement, just as it is yours.
Just because you can't figure out how or why someone is achieving a goal or managing to accomplish something is no reason to assume they're ♥♥♥♥♥ing and most certainly does not give anyone the right to accuse another of nefarious activity in public and ruin the reputation of, what could be, a perfectly innocent person.
This also shows a lack of respect and a total disregard of the harm you could be doing this person if you're wrong in your accusations and is absolutely inexcusable behavior and will not be tolerated. Believing the unfounded rumors of others who post these accusations before you and jumping on the bandwagon is even more inexcusable.
The old justice motto of innocent until proven guilty applies to every user on this forum. Any suspicions you may have about another user should be reported through private PM to a Mod or through the in-game reporting system to Support."
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So when ever you suspect that someone is abusing the system, we really really want to know about it!! You just can't post that publicly, use private channels instead.
I also want to thank those people who have been very open about different ways to potentially game the system, there is no way of telling how important it is that you let us know about these things. I have huge respect for those brave individuals who have stepped forward and revealed potential exploits to us, always privately and sometimes anonymously. I want to encourage everyone to continue doing this also in the future.
Just a thought..... But could this be happening to do with their trophy count? And how you cant attack people higher than you? (Might be wrong about this). Could this be how the top players aren't being attacked? Again it's just a thought. Also in champions league you can't get the weekly shield, therefore if you got the 1 day shield then the 2 day shield there would be 2 days where you couldn't have a shield?
Up higher it changes from 200 trophies either side to 700 in match making and the top players are not spaced out that far also i know as i snooped around there are some auto tap software around i didn't download any as i do not use any of these sly tactics but others will so there may be some that use it up top but it is all theories ATM
I Aggree, and it was stupid of me to make the 1st thread about it while i mentioned his name in there. The fact is im just pretty much ♥♥♥♥♥♥ at the fact that ppl exploit things in the game that make it unfair to ppl who just want to play the game at a fair way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marika[Supercell]
Thanks Marika, this was indeed my first posting on the forums. Had stumbled to them a few hours earlier, after noticing a new number one clan and wondering what the story was. Haters gonna hate though, eh? As I said in my OP, doesn't really affect us mere mortals (level 75), but I'm sure if anything untoward is uncovered, it will be patched/dealt with.
I wish, but SC know about this problem and hasnt done anything. They are more concerned if you name any c h e at e r by name than the fact that they are ♥♥♥♥♥ing. Players stays at the same cups for weeks and SC still ask for proof. Its insane and we all buy it in a sense. A very common reason for ♥♥♥♥♥ing is "the poor high cup players cant find anyone to attack". No wonder, as they are not alone to use c h e a t s. High cup players dont do defence because they think they have too much to lose. Well, defending and attacking are part of being a skilled player but since they obviously suck at defending they simply chose to skip that part. If SC would ban the c h e a t then nobody would have trouble finding someone to attack. Its time for SC to take action once and for all. Force them to get into defence. Ban c h e a t s. Make this game as it suppose to be, an attacking AND defending game for SKILLED players. Not a c h e a t e r s game and the one who c h e a t s the most, well then you probably are no 1 in the world. Wow, what a skill to brag about.Quote:
Originally Posted by facescraper
i dont think this will get closed, but it might...
Could it maybe be that the stats just arent showing?So they do have wins/losses but the stat counter is off??I dunno just thinking outside the box here
For the few who do play at this very high level, and play fairly I can only say that it must suck knowing others may be bending and breaking the rules set by SC. I really mean it as you obviously take the game seriously enough to want to play up to that level.
But for myself (and I'm guessing 95% of other clashers or more) it doesn't really effect us in the same way. The simply fact of the matter is I've never really thought much of the people in the top 200 as from all the videos I've seen, chats I've listened too etc, it really requires very little skill, only time, patience and heaps of gem money. Anything from Yao spamming bases with dragons to top players now using the same army builds with their heroes. In this world people seem to want the "fame" that comes with being top. When this is true people are going to do everything it takes to gain that fame. With CoC, this means breaking rules and upsetting those who are trying to honesty attain their feat.
So as long as fanboys and fangirls keep idolizing and pretending that being top ___ in CoC means something, people are going to keep breaking rules to stay there. Sad but true.
Thats not true at all. It effect all players. C h e a t i n g is often mentioned when talking about champs but the fact is that ALOT of ordinary players farming also use the same c h e a t. This means that their base is only open for attack one time a day. Not as for the rest of use, everytime you logg off. Imagine if SC banned this ♥♥♥♥♥? That would mean that millions bases would be available. Champs would find attacks and farmers would find loot. Still SC continue to look the other way. They dont care about the game anymore. They only care about how to get more money. To be honest I would be ashame working for SC. Yes, it is a business and money should matter. But for gods sake do you really have to lose all your honor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraist
And YES the c h e a t exist and SC knows all about it and so does this forums moderators. Many, many players has left proof and explained all about the c h e a t i n g but they still look the other way. If they ignore the problem then its the same as if it doesnt exist. This is how this billion dollar company choose to deal with the biggest problem in this game.
This may or may not be true but the fact still remains we still have thousands of other bases to search through in order to find another raid. Those at the top may have to wait another 30 minutes with the magnifying glass on the screen. So yes, in the literal sense, cheeting effects everyone plays the game but in regards to what I was mentioning the level it effects us mere mortals is simply aesthetic really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomasque
... and can someone for the love of any or all gods please tell me why the word chea t is not allowed on these forums!?!? That is beyond ridiculous?! :eek:
The top dogs have to look at the magnifying glass simply because 70-80% choose to c h e a t. Its their own fault. If they would open their bases for attacks then that problem would be solved. As for farmers, well they want loots and since 50-60% (yes, Im guessing. The numbers are probably higher) choose to hide their loot, we now have a enormous lootproblem. You see, the ♥♥♥♥♥, effect us all. And in what other game than Clash of Clans is it ok to use c h e a t s? If it would be a crack that would allow you to get gems for free then SC would take action within minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraist
The words che@t and h@ck are filtered because it helps to combat spam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraist
See what I mean? A filter to combat spam was created but the fact that loads of players are c h e a t i n g no action is being taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinkerbell
You can attack people higher than you. And with bought shields you can shield for 3 days. It's been a few weeks. A source close to some of them hinted Clayton may be revenging him whenever he logs out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alster551
I guess a few have just shielded while at the top to keep it that way for now? *shrug*
The only possible and logical solution is the top clashers went on strike.
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You sir have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and should abstain making further comments that simply are random hatred that discredit a whole community of incredibly skilled and honest players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomasque
- Yes SC knows about it and they are acting on it, you might want to check the latest announcement, seriously do it.
- No we aren't all chêating, far from it, and even those who are chêating will defend at some point.
- Defending is indeed a skill and you have no idea how much time and effort we put into this, our bases look weird simply because we don't protect the same things, but trust me, we don't like to give our cups for free and we know our stuff.
- If you think for one second that the guys at 4k are all chêating and are not talented you might want to come to our clan and watch them raid, I'll say it very clearly, those guys are the best players in world, farmers and hunters alike no questions asked, for those who understand this game mechanics watching a player like Clayton raid is a sight to be seen.
- Shield management is also a skill that involves timing and team work, it would take too much time to explain how it works but it's an art that only very few people understand even at our level, hence this ridiculous Fair play clan.
Fuelling hatred with ignorance won't change our issues, all it does is widening the gap between both worlds, a gap that's already too big.
But if it makes you feel better about yourself then please flame away.
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Originally Posted by R0uge
This post just owned it :D
A h a c k does exist for the game that allows you to be idle and stay on for 8 hours, but from the sounds of it, this "shield art" is probably something different and more effective.
anyway only 2 players have no attacks and defenses...
if they have found a method they will keep it secret :D
Hm, I rather come to your clan and watch a replay of a defence. :rolleyes: Oh, wait they have none. The c h e a t Im talking about has nothing to do with shield management. Lol. Its a simple c h e a t thats makes you stay online for 8 h, sandbox every base etc. It has nothing to do with skills. You must be one of the guys who though that the revenge cooldown was sooooo unfair to the big boys. Now they couldnt give themselves easy shields with their second, third, fourth...account. Booohooo. Oh just be honest and play the game in a fair way like the rest of us. We dont have to c h e a t, use bots etc. We fight with honor and integrity. Whats unfair is that SC is supporting this c h e a t. They are acting on the bot that makes you stay online 24/7 simply because its too obvious when no 1 uses it.Quote:
Originally Posted by R0uge
Oh I forgot to mention that Im currently at 3900 cups and still rising. But I guess you are right. I know nothing about this game. Lol. Oh, one other thing, Im not c h e a t i n g. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by R0uge
Now you're just being obtuse, or you just have reading problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomasque
Go read SC latest annoucement on the next maintenance break and you'll know if they support imod or not, you just look like a fool with the latest conspiracy theory here, stop digging it's painful to watch.
About Imod, which I don't use, you still have to defend after 8h.
And now for the great finale, brace yourself you're about to learn something, if you don't attack your defence count will stay at 0 no matter how many times you win.
That means if team mates shield our guys, which they did legally, it won't change the def count.
About the revenge cooldown, you just don't know the beginning of the beginning about me.
Now pack your accusations, your ignorance and your 3900 cups that really don't impress anyone where we are and go join the whining club and imod users at FairPlay lol
What have you done for the game lately?
Get lost.
They both have defences, but they did not attack so the count stays at 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by libero
What's Imod? Anway, yes, I believe we all should play fair... whatever that means.
We can't talk about it here.
My theory is that they are not attacking at all (I mean the top 15 ish players) to maybe send a message to SC?
I think this whole thing is just way too complicated. SC either fixes it or they don't. We just all got to deal with it. It is what it is... Right?
Understandably, the ppl at the top that has spent millions of dollars on the game may be frustrated... but it wasn't SC that told them to spend this money right?
Anyway, I do believe SC will do something about this. So, everything that is unhappy, just sit tight, something will be done.
Let's just all be happy!
Imod is very dodgy from what I have heard / seen. Not only does it enable the player to sandbox a base til' their hearts desire, but there is also the option to search for high loot bases only, thus filtering out those below xxxxx. Imagine what effect on the game this could - or already is - having.
I thought SC made imod noncompatible with CoC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wh33ls
I have no clue. Just going on what I've heard / witnessed via S S's recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatoneguyIknow
Serious question, how are "teammates" shielding someone "legally"? Quotes for emphasis on the parts I don't understand.
To me, playing around 3800 Cups. It is disappointing to realize those strange things going on. If I lock off, no minute later I will be attacked. Always ! So how can a player have the same cup count for far longer than 3 days (max shield time at above 3200) ? No wonder people suspect wrong doing here. SC said they will look into it. Shouldn't take that long and that's why people suspect SC of having no interest fixing whatever is wrong here.
Just sad for such a company
Honest question here but if they do have defense, why aren't their cup count moving at all? Is it a an issue with the display too?Quote:
Originally Posted by R0uge
There is only one possibility to have the same cup count for so long (besides not being attacked which won't happen above 4000). Every time you lock off you are immediately getting a revenge attack from a player with a much much lower cup count and he looses with above 40% hence the new shield and receives 0 cups for the loss
Wow, you guys are so good. Giving each other shields. Isnt that cute. Why not be in a regular defence like the rest of us. My suggestion is, take it like a man. Wimp! Funny how your excellent and hard shield work can leave no 1 with the same cups for over two weeks. Its magical to watch. How can you do it. Its impossible. Lol. Is he the first? No. Is he the last? No. I know several guys who didnt even bothered to rearm their traps. Why should they? Hm..... Answer that one. Wimp!Quote:
Originally Posted by R0uge
Like a man? In a video game? Tough man lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Thomasque
You still have no clue about what goes on in our clans, next time don't assume you know and look like a fool, just ask, we love to answer questions.
Like instead of assuming Maher stayed at the same amount of cups for 2 weeks just ask if he did and the answer is no, he went from 4516 to 4521 and now 4482.
Or when you assume finding your clan mate to shield them is illegal, it's not, once again don't shoot your own foot and ask, there is no shame in being ignorant, we all start from there, you're just doing it wrong.
I must admit you're entertaining but people with your amount of hate and jealousy are easy to toy with, especially when they start losing their nerves ;)
Stop blaming others for your own shortcomings, get better, tiger.
Closing this, it's becoming a flame fest.