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The hogs were nerfed previously, but they are still overpowered, maybe have it so they only take half the percentage of healing and rage spells, and wizard towers do maybe 15 percent more damage to them, would be really simple and stop those really annoying overpowered raids.
Im tired of hogs, its gone to far, these tiny nerfs are doing nothing, its just a cheap, pathetic strategy, doesnt increase raiding skill and a 4 year old could do it, its ruining the game.
Why are hoggers stuck at masters? Because champions is too tough for them. Only skilled hoggers can survive in championsQuote:
Originally Posted by XoYazoo
Hogs were nerfed many times. They are as fine as they are
They have been nerfed multiple times. They have even raised the cost for them & the disco IT's killed the hog strategy. Stop complaining!
Heh, I am totally not surprised these topics still exist. SuperCell have dealt with Hogs so badly it's beyond a joke.
The thing is, there are actually plenty of troop combinations that are considered 'overpowered'
But none of the troops that are used in 'overpowered' combinations take 2 minutes to cook. The closest ones take 8 minutes, Wizards & Balloons.
That is the problem, in a perfect world hogs would be seen as often as gowiwi, gowipe or bloonion or even dragons. But why would you cook those when they take so much longer to get the same result with hogs?
I don't find myself coming online at all and finding a 100 percent by gowipe? My base is upgraded pretty well so I don't worry about it, the fact that the only reply to the thread are "inferno towers" and champions league is ridiculous, is that the only thing to combat them? what if im not ready for town hall 10? a 28 hog riders with healing shouldn't be able to 100 percent a max th9, they NEED a Nerf, the fact some of you are saying they don't is absurd.
Maybe having an anti-hog base would help...Quote:
Originally Posted by XoYazoo
Two words: hog base
I shouldn't have to make an entirely new base for hogs tho! I don't have to do it for gowipe, ballonions, and many other armys, why should I have to upgrade to town hall 10 or make a new base for them? now do you see.
So building a base to combat only 1 of 15 troops is the solution?Quote:
Originally Posted by KamikazePekka
It works, but you shouldn't have to go to that length.
Finally someone that understands, the hog riders are game breaking, only the pathetic no-skilled clash noobs that have watched a youtube video explaining how OP they are are defending them.Quote:
Originally Posted by daz258
I would think if they were so OP then they would be the only ones used in combat out of these 15 troops? Anti Hog bases, in theory, would work well against most other troops, too, with more clever trap placements in defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by XoYazoo
Not really, I made my base to stop hogs, because they are the most common powerful threat. I love watching hoggers fail to crack my base.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonhealers
Hogs are powerful, I have absolutely no problem accepting that.
However I think it is in the best interests of the game is the real powerful threats were more equally spread. And I very much believe the train time in-balance is the primary reason for this.
There aren't to many full out hog raids maybe lower their health a tiny bit but no more
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Originally Posted by daz258
Fun fact: you can make 1 wizard with the time to make 4 hog riders.
You're right with the train time. maybe 3 or 4 min would work, considering the number of riders needed for a decent attack.
Hog riders are also useless in champion raiding, though. Fixing the hogs would be a difficult task. Since Supercell has walked into their own spring trap, I doubt that they will correctly even out power between troops anytime soon. To be honest, I haven't a clue myself anyway. I'm just a near max TH7... :rolleyes:
Do you want to leave a Hog Rider power less???
IDK but if these threads are listened to it won't be too long before Hogs don't do more than 12 DPS
It is to be expected, they are meant to receive complaints due to their short training time and overused.
But dont forget this:
- You may be the one underpowered instead of hogs being OP. If you are TH8, I would have crush you as easily with balloons.
- You are not the only one asking, but their nerfing (5 times) have gone overboard, complainers will keep appearing until they become completely useless, might as well delete the unit.
- They are ridiculously expensive to train, and their costs have even increased. No one would like to spend 2k DE hogging you unless your sitting on full storages and dont put your TH outside. If you do, you are basically asking to be hogged.
- They can be considered end-game raiding troops, they are no-brainers only against TH8 (where majority of hogger wannabes will target), if the attacker knows what they are doing, you will be crushed even as a TH10, much less TH9.
- What matters to hog attacks and trap design and CC troops, if you have some centralized wizards in CC and the attacker did not lure them out, hog attacks will fail miserably even against TH9.
- They are not no-brainer unless you are picking off weak players when farming in Gold/Crystal league, try to hog your way to high masters and I dare you say you dont need skills using them.
Nerfing will not solve a thing, as there will soon be someone from TH8 or TH7 complaining and it continues from there. For all those that have hate against hogs, yet dont wish to change base design for them is nonsense.
Using Hog Riders is apart of the game. The fact that you are complaining about it just shows you are out of your league. the goal is to get champion and as stated before hog riders are useless at champion league. When you push to master 3 and above it should be expected to have your defense crushed against the with lvl 8 hogs or skilled th10 that are running right through you.
Also if you want to defend against hogs, make your clan castle difficult to get to and make him waste troops to try and lure out your lvl5 plus wizards that should be defending your base
I really wish people would quit whining about hogs.
I get hit by them too, and it's irritating, but instead of, yet again, nerfing them, how about countering them?
Maybe they can take an existing defense, and allow it to attack multiple targets... It's just a thought... Hmmm... I wonder which defense they could use for that...
There should be troops that are stronger than others, and there should be defenses that are hard to acquire.Quote:
Originally Posted by XoYazoo
Leave the hogs alone, they are fine. And for the record, I am only TH9, so I don't have infernos yet either.
Defensive spells could be a counter, or perhaps a defense only hero-type character, whose favorite target is hogs...
Another nerf is not the answer! It's time to be creative, not make strong troops weak.
This I agree with, Hogs are strong. SuperCell just need to accept that and give them an appropriate train time to match. Loons & Wizards are strong, but they sure as hell do not take 2 minutes to cook.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1
If they did people would be up in arms about them been overpowered and smashing everyone too.
I'm at 3100 cups and I'm hit 3 times a day with hogs. They are OVERPOWERED. For those who think otherwise are either using them or are not in master leagues. It goes like this, one hog to attract queen, another hog to attract king, another hog to attract them both, some barbarians and a queen to kill the heroes in the corner....then..... 40 hogs accross the base with two or three heal spells. Then clean up the unprotected buildings with heroes or wizards. My base occupies 95% of the deployment space, but still my heroes die. There is no escape.
Mass hogs are a nightmare which can't be defended against. Anyone thinking "hog base" can shove it too, because these can be overcome by deploying hogs in paused groups. I have tried everything and nothing works. It's wrecked the game for me and my base is currently in splatters for the 59th time by hogs and its not getting reloaded. Sick of it. Players remorse and totally ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off with SC for its ridiculous light tweaks of this troop.
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Originally Posted by pokeguy1223
I would add that even now cost the correct
Hogs kind of suck vs anyone who knows what they're doing. At TH9, I was -never- destroyed 100% by hogs with my final layout - after more than a month of play, with me logging off after every attack. Most hog attacks didn't even get half my resources. I have used hogs extensively myself as well, and it is literally impossible to defeat (to the point of looting) any reasonably-built TH10 with a good layout. Inferno multi-target is horribly OP, and I'd like to see it reduced to four targets and only half heal reduction vs healers (still full vs spells). I can live with hogs sucking, but it seems a bit unfair to penalize giant healer as well, which is currently useless vs inferno. Healers can't keep up with hogs, so nerfing healers only affects healer giant, which was balanced before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sotgaming
Is your CC centered and staffed with wizards? Are all your giant bombs maxed, internal, sitting next to a defense, and in range of a multi-target inferno? Are all your spring traps internal and sandwiched between two defenses? Do you have a few defenses out far enough to prevent one or two hogs from pulling CC troops? Are your defenses ranked to at least one level below max? I regularly owned 32-hog attacks at TH9, and with an extra xbow and two rank two infernos hardly anyone even bothers to try now. Given, I've only been as high as 2540 or so, and 40 hogs are tougher than 32, but I rather highly doubt I'll just get rolled every time if someone tries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberto1