Multi IT's

TH9 - No.

If I build a strong army and use 4 spells I can get past them. If I take a light farming army (usually I use BAM) I can't. In my view this is the right balance. I shouldn't be able to roll over a TH above me with a light army, but I should be able to have a good fight if I'm prepared to invest in a strong army.

I do take the point on TH10's with disco's and weaker other defences being tougher than a max TH9, but, I don't see why this is necessarily wrong. If it is wrong then where should the balance be? by way of illustration, I have 1 AT and 1 AD to do before I max TH9 (well max defence, my walls/heros are pretty rubbish) and if I went to TH10 before doing these two buildings and got two ITs, my base would have stronger defences than a max TH9 and I think that is right. So how low should defs be before it is wrong for a base with those low defs and two discos to be tougher than a max TH9?

Each of us can go to TH10 and get them if we want.

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Originally Posted by GranteIsles

Infernos are not the problem, they are not overpowered, the problem is the way the loot system works means th10s are farming in trophy ranges they should not be in and matchmaking is on trophies not th lv, I am farming in 1800 because I can gain more loot and quicker than I can when at 3000 trophies, I have 400k gold up for grabs constantly but matchmaking means most likely i will be offered up to th that won't make a dent,

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I would have to agree with this. The big reason duel IT frustrate me is that at 1800-2000 I only see a few preemies with it. But I also see TH levels from th7-10. But if I go up much farther the only th levels with loot are th10 with duel infernos that aren't premature.

If the loot system was working or stabilized we shouldn't be experiencing trophy ranges where 4 different townhall levels are all intermixed. Heck you go a bit farther down and its even worse (th6-th10).

If Gold was mainly Th7 and 8, with a sprinkling of early th9, then Crystal I was mostly TH8 and 9 with a sprinkle of early th10, and so forth I would not be as frustrated because there would be a natural progression.


The update was a big shocker for many th9 players who had enjoyed minimal losses with an outdated looting system. We still had th8 players to raid off of but at the same time raiding our bases was often economically a tough egg. Suddenly th10 could take a whooping ~340K/2400 from us and got duel infernos to boot. Many players weren't adapting to hogs, instead they simply jumped up to th10 to get the infernos. And similarly many players couldn't deal with the infernos.

I think as a result there was a sudden drop in TH9 players. Meaning I have less people to raid at my level, plus many of them ran screaming from Crystal III (which is still largely a desert), meaning I had to actually drop trophies to find loot in a range that was even more clog with TH levels than pre-update


Maybe this will stabilize but right now its what things look like

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Originally Posted by Kirky

TH9 - No.

If I build a strong army and use 4 spells I can get past them. If I take a light farming army (usually I use BAM) I can't. In my view this is the right balance. I shouldn't be able to roll over a TH above me with a light army, but I should be able to have a good fight if I'm prepared to invest in a strong army.

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This sums it up perfectly.

Yeh, they are unbelievably OP. The difference between a base with just one IT and one without is staggering. It simply makes just too much of a difference. So much, I've contemplated prematurely upgrading just to get them. But they're so powerful.i just know a nerf has to be coming....right? So I'm sitting tight for now. It's the anti heal thing IMO. That's just crazy and frankly doesn't make any sense.

Yes, they coompletley throw any kind of small unit out the window. Golem, Pekka, Dragon, those are only a few troops that can withstand those horrid Multi IT

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Originally Posted by ClashTV

Yes, they coompletley throw any kind of small unit out the window. Golem, Pekka, Dragon, those are only a few troops that can withstand those horrid Multi IT

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The inferno towers are usually in the center of the base. It is easy to get 50% against them by attacking the units on the outskirts of most bases if you have "small units."

Any animal with half a brain can win 100% of his attacks against every base already.
The only reason some players think IT are overpowered is because they want to raid with cheap armies.
But the goal was never to make a profit, the goal is to win and winning has never been as easy as it is right now, with the right troops...

We need a fourth Xbow and mortar, a million traps more, 50 more walls and a huge heroes nerf.
Then the game will be as balanced as it was right before all this Dark Elixir nonsense.

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Originally Posted by R0uge

Any animal with half a brain can win 100% of his attacks against every base already.
The only reason some players think IT are overpowered is because they want to raid with cheap armies.
But the goal was never to make a profit, the goal is to win and winning has never been as easy as it it is right now, with the right troops...

We need a fourth Xbow and mortar, a million traps more, 50 more walls and a huge heroes nerf.
Then the game will be balanced as it was right before all this a Dark a Elixir nonsense.

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No kidding, we need another inferno tower, not a nerf to them. Offense just got even more dominating this update and kids are still crying about inferno towers. They won't be happy until they get easy wins again like they were with the overpowered hog riders.

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Originally Posted by JtB

No kidding, we need another inferno tower, not a nerf to them. Offense just got even more dominating this update and kids are still crying about inferno towers. They won't be happy until they get easy wins again like they were with the overpowered hog riders.

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The problem is balancing high trophy play and farming play.

Play Style Differences -

Farmers are all about efficiency. Its about getting the most loot per troop. Any troop combination that takes longer than 30 minutes to train is too slow. So saying you can get an easy win, means nothing to a farmer. A farmer only cares if they get the loot. Any th10 player with half a brain can design a solid base that will make it perhaps easy to get that 50% (because in the farming ranges a 50% loss with all your loot intact is a win) but that touching their loot is next to impossible.

The average farmer is not sporting lvl 30+ heros. If you have a set of lvl 20 heros, you are probably ahead of the curve. Also if you average more than 2 spells a battle, you can't maintain an efficient level of raids

Trophy Hunters are all about getting those stars. A fast build here is 45 minutes to one hour. Sure you can Barch for 50% or whatever other combination but in the end its about winning. If your sporting 5 spells, maxed heros, and anything that hits hard you should be able to win at least 1 star no problem. This makes the decision of disco or single target infernos a real question



I bet you most of the people complaining are farmers. Because there really isn't a good combination that fits the bill without freeze spells to address infernos. That is why th9 players are so upset with them. Short of a heavy handed trophy combination, its hard to get past those infernos.


Personally I don't know how its possible for SC to make these two camps both happy. If defense is strong enough that at high trophy play a 50% isn't a sure thing, then farmers will be unhappy with how hard it is to loot a base. But if raiding at the high cup ranges is too easy, then trophy hunters will complain.



Personally I think dropping the cooking time of spells might be a way to help balance out these feelings.

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Originally Posted by daz258

You are looking at Infernos from one perspective only. Not to mention those top 10 bases in Champion have EVERY defense maxed and high level heroes; not just Inferno Towers.

However, when you are pushing through Masters and see these chump premature TH10 bases in there, you know something is not right. It is easier to destroy a maxed TH9 base then it is to destroy a premature TH10 base with TH7 defenses + Discos.

I would call that overpowered.

I think the tower should also require you to upgrade it to get the extra targets [three at lv 1, four at lv 2 & five at lv 3]. That way high level play isn't altered, but these premature chumps with lv 1 Infernos are not stronger then a maxed out TH9 against most troop combinations. That is messed up IMO.

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I Agree a th9 with lets say maxed BAM will stand no chance against a premmie th10 with even 1 disco burried in their base against th7 defenses its sad because making infernos better was more of a priority then loot problems.