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I would like your honest opinion if you find it realistic to complete level 9 and 10 without geming. I will max my TH8 in a few weeks and bought gems to get 5 builders in the beginning. Even if I like many of you find the loot situation bad I know I will be able to max TH8 with tesla 6 á 3 milion gold as worst part. Expensive but doable.
On TH9 it seems like every upgrade is 5-6 milion or more. I think the economy was made for TH8 as max level and 9-10 for gemers.
To max defences yes it's very possible and easy to max TH9 and TH10. It just takes time and players need to forget what life was like at TH8 and below. You're now in the 8 to 14 day upgrade stage.
To max walls and heroes, yes it's possible, just not very realistic. I estimate only a handful of players will ever do it and even they will spend low amounts on boosts etc.
If you have limited patience, than it may *appear* that TH9 and 10 are for heavy gemmers only.
However, you will find many examples of people who have maxed TH9 or even nearly maxed TH10 having spent a very limited number of gems.
I maxed my TH9 defences long ago but walls suck.
It's very possible to max th9 without gemming. It's a lot different from TH8, but the upgrades not only cost more, but take longer. So you'll have more time to farm between builders. I'm fairly new to TH9 (just a hair over 30 days) and I've gotten all new defenses up to par with my previous ones from TH8, have both x bows at L1, all mortars are L7, 2 WTs are building to L7 and I'm 1 mil gold shy of starting a third one. On top of all that I've maxed all bombs and traps and my BK is 13 and AQ is L9, and all walls are L8 with 63 of them at L9. I've spent no gems.Quote:
Originally Posted by n3r0s
its possible, just requires more farming than TH8.
Thank you for good answers. If I decide sculls is enough even on TH 9 I think the total amount gold is about the same as a complete TH8 (walls included for TH8). The big difference seems to be storing so much loot without getting robbed all the time. Now my top upgrades are 2-3 milion and I use to start one each day. And when I build walls I never leave much gold, so I'm not attacked so much.
My first response is yes. I am nearly a maxed Th9, all farming.
However, if you still want to have fun - pick heros or walls to grind - not both and even then don't shoot for 100% maxed
I've focused on have at least 1 hero upgrading at all times (once I was out of the new th9 phase). I have a lvl 15 archer queen and won't have an issue of hitting lvl15 with my BK before th10. But I am not sticking around th9 to get lvl 8 walls and lvl 30 heros......
From my pushes I honestly don't see the need for lvl 8 walls. There great but most players are using hogs and balloons. That and lvl 7 walls will hold there ground. Lvl 8 is better, and 9 is intimidating but experienced players aren't going to be phased anyway.
Time wise the upgrades take some patience for sure but I can see not needing to gem. The new improved loot system make this unlikely tho. Im alrdy frustrated at th9 and have taken to boosting barracks to make the game playable. I imagine Ill have to bounce by mid th10. So possible yes but you wouldnt want to. Imagine what kinda ♥♥♥♥ a th11 will have to go through. What a joke that will be.
I buy a few gems here and there ( in 500's ) for gemming SF and donating troops, so I wouldn't say I "gem". I think it is very realistic you can max all defenses/buildings without spending what "gemmers" have spent. £3 here and there is hardly hardcore cash.
This is a long term game, you either play, or you pay. I am a player, and find it rewarding watching my village grow from the efforts I have put into it.
Only things that aren't so realistic, but can still be done, are heroes and walls. Apart from that, yes, none gemmers can max their bases.
I think many of us have farmed to a pretty good level of base, so yeah it's certainly possible - there are two commodities here - time OR money maxing TH10 is going to cost you either way.
Max plus lvl 11 walls and lvl 40 heroes is another matter, i've not hear of anyone who had yet managed to do that by pure farming although I am sure there are plenty on the way.
Daddy makes a brilliant point in saying that there are two commodities to clash, Time or money. I personally have several friends in real life that are nearing max th9-10 without having bought a single gem apart from getting the 3 extra builders, it certainly is possible but it takes a mighty load of patience and a mammoth amount of farming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy
um do u really have SEVERAL irl friends that are near max th10?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solarous
as far as i know there are roughly 8 that are close
i doubt u would know anyone of them, dont even talk about several
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I am currently a TH9 and I completely maxed my defenses back near Halloween. But, then came the dilemma... upgrade to TH10 or work on walls, heroes, and the rest of my troops. I purchased no gems to get to this point other than 5th builder.
I decided it would be smarter for me to stay at TH9 and continue to do what I consider the most fun about the game... Farming resources! Eventually, I plan on becoming more a trophy oriented player. But, I want my based maxed first. So, I stayed at TH9 and am still here. Approx. 100 Lavas left to go and almost 1 Billion Gold grab later.... I'm still at TH9 farming these walls. It's been three solid months now... Most of my walls were only Level 7 when I started back on Halloween... so, I had a lot of catching up to do.
So, I guess what I am saying is YES... it is definitely possible! But, it takes alot of farming and alot of patience!
Daddy is right you do need a lot of time and patience if you're not prepared to gem. It's the units that cost 7M each which will break you, the longer you take to reach your target, the more others will take from you, just be prepared to lose a lot when you log off. Leaving your TH in the corner helps but when you got 5M gleaming in your storages, temptation gets the better of them...
Not sure why people find walls hard, I actually prefer doing walls :)
Near maxed defenses th10 here but im playing since september 2012
It is possible to max out defences without gems for th 9-10 but it takes a bit of more time
I think there are to important elements that make a major difference. Walls lv 10 and 11 require vast amount of gold, which takes very long time to farm. The other point is to make it in champion near the top. As we know many of the top ranked guys gem a lot so is it possible for a non-gemmer to keep pace? I have no personal experience but I would guess that you will simply not be able to hang on if the other guys keep gemming their troops ready or keep boosts on for long period while being online for several hours.
In the end it comes down to time. CoC is a nice game that everything can be gotten for free, but it will just takes a certain amount of time that can then be reduced by gem usage.
The game is all about time and patience. It is possible to get defences maxed out but for upgrading walls one requires a lot of time to play game long hours but not impossible without gems
but are ur walls lv 11?Quote:
Originally Posted by Badzmaru
I keep reading all good input! As adult I have money to spend if I want, my boat costed about 300 000 USD, but to much geming doesn't feel like gaming if you know what I mean. :rolleyes: Bying some stuff like builders/King/Queen feels ok to support the developers, but not to get an upgrade done faster.
Our definitions of several may differ, there is no need to be so hostile. I have 2 friends irl that im pretty sure are pretty close to maxing out th9 without gemming at all, As for th10 probably not but im not entirely sure so i just threw in th 9-10 as a guesstimation :) and if there is only 8 in the th9-10 range without gemming then i must be living in a different reality to everyone else :PQuote:
Originally Posted by fatggggg
I did th9 and th10 (except lavas and heroes) and I'm sure there's a lot other players that did it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by n3r0s
ps: waiting for my lvl6 minions now. 12d22h to go ;-)