Update FEEDBACK

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Originally Posted by bah13

He was being sarcastic. Loot is even worse at th10 than ever before, from what I've gathered SC failed in their goal to make it easier to save up a th10 and get more loot. So when someone says "well then upgrade and reap in loot nirvana since 10's have it so easy" they're telling you you don't know what you're talking about. Loot is ♥♥♥♥ everywhere, especially th10.

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I get that (if you read my response properly) and I recognise that it has not worked and loot is rubbish for most people.

But it was clear that Supercell's intentions were to make it easier for TH10's by making it easier to crush TH8s and TH9s.

For anyone saying "I don't know what I'm talking about because I'm not a TH10" need to understand that since the update, us lower THs HAVE experienced TH10s crushing our bases and stealing incredible amounts of gold, so in that respect, yes it is easier for TH10s and maybe I'm not as clueless as you' make lower Town Hall clashers to be.

Does anyone else want to misread my post and bite my head off?

I think the features in this update were well thoughtout and frankly a bit of a surprise. As the leader of an active international clan, I welcomed the addition of Co-leaders. We had some perfect candidates and now have good clan supervision in all timezones. Love the boosts for the King and Queen, since my Royals seem to be particularly lazy and sleep alot! The introduction of level 6 Minions is another incentive to upgrade to TH10, but so far I am still committed to maxing TH9 first. The other small changes in navigation have improved gameplay, especially the ability to view Chat while searching and replaying. Nice job, Supercell! Now if we could just talk about the cost of walls......😉! Ha ha!

While there are so cool new aspects to this game, (co leader more gems hero abilities), I am growing increasingly disappointed by the level of loot available for me at th 10. The new update has its highlights but it I simply cant afford to play this game any longer until the loot gets better. It costs me anywhere from 100 to 200k gold to find someone with around 200k of each resource. That is unacceptable when the upgrades cost so much at th 10. I hope to see a change quickly so i can get back to the clash I once enjoyed so much.

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Originally Posted by BottomsOff

Does anyone else want to misread my post and bite my head off?

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Happy to oblige! Here's the thing. You can sit there whining about how unfair it is that those big mean TH10's are picking on you, but you've completely missed the real underlying issue. This update did nothing to fix the endless-nexting we've all experienced for some time now. Higher level TH's are picking on you precisely *because* there's nowhere else to get loot.

Hey SC I think that elder has basically no power now. They cant even promote to elder! I think that you should be able to promote to your rank, so if you are elder you can promote to elder, if you are co leader you can promote to co leader etc. I think this for 2 reasons.

1: In my clan some elders/co leaders might leave to visit someone or look at something, and now when they come back we elders can promote them :( !

2: At the moment elder has no real purpose apart from recruiting. It has no real privilige that is not open to a member.

I think co leader is great but the chain of command is really balanced, it kinda jumps up in power at co leader while elder can do basically nothing.

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Originally Posted by ZombieProcess

Happy to oblige! Here's the thing. You can sit there whining about how unfair it is that those big mean TH10's are picking on you, but you've completely missed the real underlying issue. This update did nothing to fix the endless-nexting we've all experienced for some time now. Higher level TH's are picking on you precisely *because* there's nowhere else to get loot.

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Whining? Here's the thing. If you read my original post, I was not whining. I stated that I'm fairly happy with the game and have fun playing the game. Maybe you missed that bit. Maybe you just saw the word 'loot' and jumped to conclusions. It is evident you can't mention suggestions on loot without sarcastic and petty responses from people on here.

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Originally Posted by Spellmaster

Hey SC I think that elder has basically no power now. They cant even promote to elder! I think that you should be able to promote to your rank, so if you are elder you can promote to elder, if you are co leader you can promote to co leader etc. I think this for 2 reasons.

1: In my clan some elders/co leaders might leave to visit someone or look at something, and now when they come back we elders can promote them :( !

2: At the moment elder has no real purpose apart from recruiting. It has no real privilige that is not open to a member.

I think co leader is great but the chain of command is really balanced, it kinda jumps up in power at co leader while elder can do basically nothing.

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I agree with this, its unfair on elders now and some feel like they are being punished for it.

I hate the update

This is the worst update i have ever seen cos failed in gem box thing and next is the co-leader update it really stupid update cos co-leader can modify clan description and even change the tropies i don't think its good idea that co-leaders can modify thing like that and i am happy co-leaders can send msg. I am really hoping some day u might bring up with leader can send msg to a single person regarding his profamance like a warning msg to specific guy. Hope ull conceder it supercell and still the last i can say worst update ever seen by u guys.

The Barbarian King is just awesome!;)

The best part of this update is the gem box, oh wait..........
jk great update bk rage is kinda neat

Did this update change how cups are created? Look at this attack from today: I received 13 cups; defender lost 12. We are both in Master. I thought this only happens below 1000 cups - attacker receives a few more cups than defender loses...that is how cups are added to the game and gradually "trickle up." But, cups being created at 2800? Is this new with the last update?
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Originally Posted by bhima

Did this update change how cups are created? Look at this attack from today: I received 13 cups; defender lost 12. We are both in Master. I thought this only happens below 1000 cups - attacker receives a few more cups than defender loses...that is how cups are added to the game and gradually "trickle up." But, cups being created at 2800? Is this new with the last update?
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This happens to me quite often pre-update. I always thought cups were based on the gap between attacker and defender? Maybe someone could shed some light on this?

Hi I'm new to the forums but I am a seasoned clasher and a huge clash lover. For how highly anticipated this update was, it is disappointing how lack luster the content is.
Let me start by saying that the hero abilities are pretty sweet, a solid idea, and a solid start. However that's kinda where things fall off. Might I suggest that the hero ability auras should effect all troops within range, I mean who rolls with enough barbs to make a difference in that regard? And for how short the aura lasts it doesn't seem like it would be a big deal.
I don't understand the pricing for Minions lvl 6, I get that they're max level troops, but 100,000 de for the tiny stat improvement!? Where's the logic behind that..(reminds me of how mindless the clan castle upgrade costs are..1.8 mil for lvl 4....7 mil for lvl 5!?).
My next beef lies with the cost increase of my beloved hogs, and while I'm happy that SC chose not to nerf their DPS the change has been crippling to my army. Hog riders are my favorite troop and I love hog farming, I roll with 20 hogs, currently lvl 4 which used to cost me 900de, now with the upgrade 20 hogs lvl 4 is around 1100 de. Not to mention that I'm 5 days from maxed hogs which will cost me 1300 de every 20 hogs..the margin of increase has made it difficult to break even. Honestly I don't understand why SC would do this, hogs are good but inferno towers and clan troops/heroes can absolutely paralyze hog farmers. FIX MY HOGS!
My final dispute with SC is in regard to premature TH10s and the overwhelming power of inferno towers. It seems as though the game is being catered to players willing to blow loads of gems on speeding up buildings and most often maxing out their TH in order to access the clearly over powered inferno towers. This creates two problems. The first problem is that the game is becoming overgrown with premature TH10s, bases myself and many other high lever players would easily put to shame had they not prematurely reached the highest level for inferno towers. I can't count how many times I have come across a TH10 that had all gold walls, with low level towers such as level 2 wizard tower, but still had the inferno towers which almost always insure my defeat. The second thing that this does is it bores premature players. Players end up maxing TH, getting infernos and then get bored when it takes forever to upgrade everything else, leaving us with inactive bases to raid that still host nearly invincible inferno towers, yet lack the desirable loot. Don't get me wrong though, I love raiding inactive players, but premature THs almost never yield the desirable loot necessary to be willing to take on the threatening ability of the inferno towers. My request is simple, first NERF THE INFERNO ALREADY! Especially the charge up. It is making prematurity too appealing. Maybe consider a loot penalty for players with obvious prematurity, I'm not quite sure how things would resolve but I am sure there is a way to fix this issue.


Thanks for listening- Isaac
TH9-Snicker Fortres

For the next update, I think an item similar to the santa strike should be reincorporated. I really enjoyed having that extra little hidden present. (Something along the lines of meteor mayhem or what have you). Thats it for now. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Tim[Supercell]

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Hi all,

It's update time and we'd love to hear your feedback about the new stuff (listed here). Please take your time to test out the new features you have access to and leave your comments below.

Also... I have a challenge for you! Let's try to keep this thread super-civil and super-constructive! That'd be super-swell :D

Thanks for your time!

>> READ THE RELEASE NOTES HERE <<

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Few bugs:

- Player list is not displaying the leagues of the players
- Queen cloak stays on even after time out, just a cosmetic issue, she is vulnerable even she's transparent
- Gem Box, enough said

Now about the new abilities, heroes are now completely OP, they were already but losing a raid now with L40 heroes takes a huge amount of noobness, fire the tester, he's an orang utan in bronze league.
Level 6 minions were a cash upgrade, AT level 12 still one shoot them, useless upgrade, yw for the gems.
Freeze spell... 1 second for 8 million, because yolo, also a cash upgrade, yw for the gems.
Elder nerf, I don't care, how about another new title, like Santa, or Cross Dresser

26 attacks this season, from 200, good job guys, my walls in Snake Sauce are looking a lot better.

Gem box still disabled? It's been 2 days since the disable notice.

My thoughts on some of the updates.

-More gems from obstacles. GREAT!
-Co-leaders? Not sure about this one as it seems like you just demoted elders. I'm not sure I understand the reason.
-Hero powers? My queen has been upgrading so I haven't used her yet, but I like what the king does!

Here is one I don't get. If I remember correctly, this is now the third time you've tweaked the hogriders. Every time you have either decreased their ability or increased the cost. Why? The dark elixir (DE) cost increase is too much. I usually use 10 five star riders in a battle which use to cost me 500 DE. Now they cost 650. I am at Town Hall level nine with roughly 2000 trophies. It seems like it takes forever for me to find someone I think I can beat and recuperate my cost in DE. I am in crystal III and only get 50 DE for a win bonus.

PLEASE reconsider the cost increase for the hogriders.


Also, I have kept my word and have not spent another DIME on this game until the Wall Breaker AI is fixed. Your last update on that was horrible. It would be nice if we could select the wall we want to break and then click on the wall breaker to attack it. If they are going to target buildings behind walls, then don't call them wall breakers. Call them "building seekers" or something more accurate to how they function.

• Level 12 collectors
• Clan wars
• Co-leader rank
• New quests
• Loot bonus reworking (increasing/adding a defensive bonus)
• New Goblin missions
• New DE Troop
• Troop AI fixes (PEKKA, Healer, *Valkyrie was somewhat helped)
• Inferno Tower change
• New Achievements

These are the ten most requested Forum posts that I had seen leading up to the new update. I tried to order them by how desired they seemed to be. SC got one of them right, in my opinion the easiest one by far, but none the less, they did it. The other nine were left to wrought.
The Hero abilities are interesting, and the Level six minions, while they are being highly criticized, are a nice shade of purple. However 90% of the content that was actually commonly requested wasn't even acknowledged.

I have taken several days to write this to calm down, and be sure to fully evaluate the new features, and upon reflection, this update was weak.

If you want your fan base to truly "ooh" and "aww", or more importantly play longer and recruit their friends, give us an update that we ask for. Nothing fancy, just read the Request section, and skim the General section, and send your Cells to work on that. Then we will be happy.

Chris
Co-Leader

Disappointed, minion ug crazy expensive for what ur getting
everything other than hero's felt l. Just a quick code change update,
no new units buildings or th lvl.

The games just flooded now with high lvl th10 bases, raiding has gotten so hard higher up, really was hoping for a new game dynamic to try and save the game for us higher ups but sadly nothing interesting..

Royal Cloak - Very much like the ability to drop aggro, quite fitting seeing as she tends to move toward the center of a base.

Iron Fist - Neat, but doesn't address his weakness. Since the King tends to wonder the outside of a base, would have been more useful to have an aura that mimicked the heal, jump or even freeze spells to better keep him alive and/or take out the defenses currently attacking him.

Changes to minions and freeze spell do not affect me yet, so no comment on those.

Comboing the gem overgrowth with halving the boosting cost/time for barracks/spell factory was brilliant. I'd never pay 20 gems to boost the spell factory, but I see myself frequently boosting it at 10, especially when I just blew all 4 of my spells and want to restock quickly.

Speaking of gem overgrowth, seriously thank you guys sooo much :) Haven't received a gem box yet (I know they were disabled) so can't comment on those.

Co-Leader role and editing the elder role was a good move, thanks for that as well.

UI improvements are always welcome, though none of this batch really matter to me personally. Regardless, good job guys/gals. Ditto on balance tweaks.

Overall I'd give this update an 8/10 :cool:

This update looks like a bit of fun.
The previous update makes elix. too difficult to collect. there is less available and spells use it. It is very difficult to pay for troops and spells and save.

Cheers

SC, from my perspective, you've found the perfect way to get me to buy gems. I was never going to be a big-time gemmer, never going to spend hundreds of gems to get my upgrades to finish faster. So I never had much reason to buy gems. But now I will, since I will most definitely use a small number of gems to make the actual game play more fun. Boosts for heroes, barracks, spell factory -- yes, it's very much worth it to me to use 20-50 gems per playing session so that I can actually play more. I didn't do it when we had to spend 20 gems for four hours, because I couldn't usually commit to that much sustained play. But ten gems for two hours is just right. Love this change. Brilliant strategy on your part: more money for you, more game-playing satisfaction for me.

For me at TH9, though, the problem has been and remains the lack of available loot. People in my clan who are TH7 and TH8 regularly show their battles in which they've gotten 300K, 400K, and occasionally even 500K of gold or elixir. I rarely if ever even see those levels, and the few times that I do, they belong to TH10 villages with full Inferno Towers and high-level x-bows (in other words, villages that I have no chance of successfully raiding). When I do see a village that I have a chance to beat, it tends to be in the 50-90K range of loot, which is not terrible (provided you can get 100% of it), but not great. I can play for three hours, even win most of my battles, and still end up only a couple hundred thousand beyond where I started. And then when I *do* get 3 or 4 million gold on my way to an upgrade, I get 100% obliterated by TH10s with all their hogs -- I lose the 350-400K that I just laboriously won, and I'm right back where I started.

I'm probably just not a very skillful player, but it's frustrating not to be able to get ahead.

On the other hand, I guess there's no rush. I'm certainly in no hurry to get to TH10, where the loot situation is probably worse.

I don't have any good solutions, since I know that you have to maintain a proper balance among all elements. But it seems to me that we need to find new ways to get more loot into the game. Would it disrupt the balance too much if we got lvl 12 mines and collectors for TH9 and TH10?

Another thing I'd love to see is a permanent version of that Christmas present bomb -- something where we have a chance of gaining extra loot if an invader triggers the trap. As things stand now, we not only lose whatever a raider manages to steal during a raid, but we also lose the cost of replacing traps and reloading x-bows (which after one recent attack cost me nearly 50K of elixir on top of the 200K I lost in the raid). Some sort of permanent gift bomb would help offset those extra costs.

I've noticed this before and haven't seen much people address this but the friend's tab does not show the league that the player is in

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Originally Posted by PhamTheMan

I've noticed this before and haven't seen much people address this but the friend's tab does not show the league that the player is in

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Also have noticed this, should get fixed ASAP in my opinion

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Originally Posted by CJH1X4X

• Level 12 collectors
• Clan wars
• Co-leader rank
• New quests
• Loot bonus reworking (increasing/adding a defensive bonus)
• New Goblin missions
• New DE Troop
• Troop AI fixes (PEKKA, Healer, *Valkyrie was somewhat helped)
• Inferno Tower change
• New Achievements

These are the ten most requested Forum posts that I had seen leading up to the new update. I tried to order them by how desired they seemed to be. SC got one of them right, in my opinion the easiest one by far, but none the less, they did it. The other nine were left to wrought.
The Hero abilities are interesting, and the Level six minions, while they are being highly criticized, are a nice shade of purple. However 90% of the content that was actually commonly requested wasn't even acknowledged.

I have taken several days to write this to calm down, and be sure to fully evaluate the new features, and upon reflection, this update was weak.

If you want your fan base to truly "ooh" and "aww", or more importantly play longer and recruit their friends, give us an update that we ask for. Nothing fancy, just read the Request section, and skim the General section, and send your Cells to work on that. Then we will be happy.

Chris
Co-Leader

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Well spoken i agree 100%

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Originally Posted by CJH1X4X

• Level 12 collectors
• Clan wars
• Co-leader rank
• New quests
• Loot bonus reworking (increasing/adding a defensive bonus)
• New Goblin missions
• New DE Troop
• Troop AI fixes (PEKKA, Healer, *Valkyrie was somewhat helped)
• Inferno Tower change
• New Achievements

These are the ten most requested Forum posts that I had seen leading up to the new update. I tried to order them by how desired they seemed to be. SC got one of them right, in my opinion the easiest one by far, but none the less, they did it. The other nine were left to wrought.
The Hero abilities are interesting, and the Level six minions, while they are being highly criticized, are a nice shade of purple. However 90% of the content that was actually commonly requested wasn't even acknowledged.

I have taken several days to write this to calm down, and be sure to fully evaluate the new features, and upon reflection, this update was weak.

If you want your fan base to truly "ooh" and "aww", or more importantly play longer and recruit their friends, give us an update that we ask for. Nothing fancy, just read the Request section, and skim the General section, and send your Cells to work on that. Then we will be happy.

Chris
Co-Leader

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And it seems that most of the new hints in the update weren't even thought of by anyone before

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Originally Posted by silentIze

Hi I'm new to the forums but I am a seasoned clasher and a huge clash lover. For how highly anticipated this update was, it is disappointing how lack luster the content is.
Let me start by saying that the hero abilities are pretty sweet, a solid idea, and a solid start. However that's kinda where things fall off. Might I suggest that the hero ability auras should effect all troops within range, I mean who rolls with enough barbs to make a difference in that regard? And for how short the aura lasts it doesn't seem like it would be a big deal.
I don't understand the pricing for Minions lvl 6, I get that they're max level troops, but 100,000 de for the tiny stat improvement!? Where's the logic behind that..(reminds me of how mindless the clan castle upgrade costs are..1.8 mil for lvl 4....7 mil for lvl 5!?).
My next beef lies with the cost increase of my beloved hogs, and while I'm happy that SC chose not to nerf their DPS the change has been crippling to my army. Hog riders are my favorite troop and I love hog farming, I roll with 20 hogs, currently lvl 4 which used to cost me 900de, now with the upgrade 20 hogs lvl 4 is around 1100 de. Not to mention that I'm 5 days from maxed hogs which will cost me 1300 de every 20 hogs..the margin of increase has made it difficult to break even. Honestly I don't understand why SC would do this, hogs are good but inferno towers and clan troops/heroes can absolutely paralyze hog farmers. FIX MY HOGS!
My final dispute with SC is in regard to premature TH10s and the overwhelming power of inferno towers. It seems as though the game is being catered to players willing to blow loads of gems on speeding up buildings and most often maxing out their TH in order to access the clearly over powered inferno towers. This creates two problems. The first problem is that the game is becoming overgrown with premature TH10s, bases myself and many other high lever players would easily put to shame had they not prematurely reached the highest level for inferno towers. I can't count how many times I have come across a TH10 that had all gold walls, with low level towers such as level 2 wizard tower, but still had the inferno towers which almost always insure my defeat. The second thing that this does is it bores premature players. Players end up maxing TH, getting infernos and then get bored when it takes forever to upgrade everything else, leaving us with inactive bases to raid that still host nearly invincible inferno towers, yet lack the desirable loot. Don't get me wrong though, I love raiding inactive players, but premature THs almost never yield the desirable loot necessary to be willing to take on the threatening ability of the inferno towers. My request is simple, first NERF THE INFERNO ALREADY! Especially the charge up. It is making prematurity too appealing. Maybe consider a loot penalty for players with obvious prematurity, I'm not quite sure how things would resolve but I am sure there is a way to fix this issue.


Thanks for listening- Isaac
TH9-Snicker Fortres

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Great point with the premature th.10's.. And totally agrea, it's crazy so many of those we see after inferno change, with just focus on getting the OP disco infernos while rest of the village is at best at th7 level.

But guess that now the infernos are pretty much all that is needed.. Put it on disco mode, and rest of deffence hardly matters if updated or not. :-/


Ohh yes.. And hogs should really be buffed, not nerfed... We ned those hog armies in the top game, fighting in champions league and bringing more players up there where more players are definetly needed...

So Instead of nerfing them all the time, forcing hog fighters further and further down to only farm and pray on weaker players, buff them back to be able to fight the real fight for trophies..

What I like:
The hero abilities are a nice touch as well as the chat window update.

Extra gems from trees and gem box is a nice addition.

What I don't like:
First and foremost I'm disappointed SC didn't address the loot system. There needs to be an injection of additional resources at higher TH levels to avoid the endless minutes of searching while attacking. I can't keep track of the number of bases that have less than 50k resources I come across while farming.

Second, despite endless requests and previous mentions by SC that they were working on it, clan wars has yet to become a reality. I would have thought that we could have at least tested a trial system by this point. I'm super disappointed this hasn't made it in.

100k DK for level 6 minions seems excessive. I will not be upgrading to them ( although I admit I'm a long way off from lvl 6)

Overall, my opinion of the update isn't positive.

Loving the Co-Leader position! Has created a new level of goals for my clan! We are even doing nominations!

Can't say I've found a gem box yet, but at least the logs and trees are paying out a bit kinder.

The other tweaks have not changed my gameplay as much, but I'm still only lvl 46 so I have a long way to go to enjoy some of the cool additions.

Thanks guys.

Co-leader was a useless addition to appease title hungry teens, increase of hog prices hurt me but ere probably justifiable. Hero upgrades are sweet, as are the new minions. Everything else is kinda just meh. Glad for the new content but really expected something more.

Iron Fist: I absolutly love this ability it nice to see extra barbs rise up and reinforce the king.

Royal Cloak: another ability i thoroughly like, even though my queen is only level 3 ive seen other clan members use it and i love it.


Levelling system for abilities: Love the upgrading system that has been put into play for these abilities, it is justifiable and completly fair.


Level 6 Minions: They look absolutly awsome, a bit of a let down when i saw they cost 100k de.


Level 5 Freeze Spell: I cant comment on this as im only th9

Heroes boost: Not something i will be using.


Barracks and spell boosting reductions: Something i have wanted for a long time 10 gems/2 hours is far easier to take advantage of.


Clan Co-leaders: Yay something has been requested for a long time finnaly arrives, the way this has been put into place is exactly how i imagined it.


Gem overgrowth: more gems in trees? Yes please.


Gem Box: Loved this idea, but unfortunatly it was disabled... Hope you guys are able to fix i


Chat interface: I personally dont think this was a good idea... Just my thoughts

Friends List: Thenew friends list isn't fully functional... Leagues dont show and facebook friends dont appear

Decreased Rage Spell: Fairs fair.


Increased Hog Rider: Only effects one of my push tactics so im mine with it.


Increased Valkyrie: Not many people use these so this might attract some more attention to these bad girls.


Increased Pekka: hitpoints increase is completly reasonable.


Over all i think this update is pretty awsome if you ask me.. Not many people agree but the majority who play and love this game will understand

Pretty good but because they took so long to release the update i thougt that it would be something like clan wars :/

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Originally Posted by CJH1X4X

• Level 12 collectors
• Clan wars
• Co-leader rank
• New quests
• Loot bonus reworking (increasing/adding a defensive bonus)
• New Goblin missions
• New DE Troop
• Troop AI fixes (PEKKA, Healer, *Valkyrie was somewhat helped)
• Inferno Tower change
• New Achievements

These are the ten most requested Forum posts that I had seen leading up to the new update. I tried to order them by how desired they seemed to be. SC got one of them right, in my opinion the easiest one by far, but none the less, they did it. The other nine were left to wrought.
The Hero abilities are interesting, and the Level six minions, while they are being highly criticized, are a nice shade of purple. However 90% of the content that was actually commonly requested wasn't even acknowledged.

I have taken several days to write this to calm down, and be sure to fully evaluate the new features, and upon reflection, this update was weak.

If you want your fan base to truly "ooh" and "aww", or more importantly play longer and recruit their friends, give us an update that we ask for. Nothing fancy, just read the Request section, and skim the General section, and send your Cells to work on that. Then we will be happy.

Chris
Co-Leader

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Totally agree, how long will it be until SC listens to its customers? I guess they soon will when thousands stop playing this game.

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Originally Posted by S3an

Totally agree, how long will it be until SC listens to its customers? I guess they soon will when thousands stop playing this game.

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You guys don't understand business!!! Do you think that they can make all this in a month!!! If you don't have patience try making your own version of COC and see how long time it takes to make it perfectly and good!:mad:

Thanks for requesting feedback here is mine for whats its worth ;)

Likes
Hero abilities are a nice touch and add some new challenges to attacking
viewing and being able to chat whilst on replays and visiting bases is helpful
Minion art looks great
Co-leader and ability for them to send clan messages

Dislikes
Nurf to rage
Minion upgrade cost was over the top a premium for top lv I get but this was a huge jump

Opportunities
being able to donate when viewing bases or replays
badges on friends list
seems to be allot of glitches
defensive wins gain a reward ( it's not like you get many especially when high in trophys )

Issues still outstanding!
Troop wait times when trophy pushing attacking own th lv to long to build
Loot to low to upgrade and push (play at our lv)
farming inactive best way of gaining loot (really)
if troop wait times not to be addressed need something else to keep us busy be that quests, clan wars etc as game becomes very slow at th10 especially

The new update is great but lots of people have been wanting the goblin king and so have I so I hope you add this in a future update

There appears to be a graphics glitch on each information page of each buildings. There's a white, vertical line on the right side. It is visible when a building is not maxed out and have a free space on their hp bar.

Since I complained about the last two updates if figured i owe a good complement on this one. Love it. Update seems to be adding balance and fun to the game.
wish of course they fixed the loot system (or returned it to how it was) but...
nice job

Updates awesome but i think i found few glitches! i emailed you guys earlier this week but you never responded! Can you email me at laxclay89@yahoo.com

Barb ability is awesome. Queen ability is meh.

Those were the combination of troops i used in high gold and low crystal.. now i have to find a new strategy.

This is a great update, and have been loving it, all except for probably the most minor change lol. The friends list being moved is now sort of inconvenient, and out of habit, I always click the friends list when I'm trying to search for a clan.. But overall, nice job SC! Keep it coming!

Supercell...
It had the potential to be the first decent fresh update since the wb ai update.
the Barb King's new ability has made him fun..

Nerf rage? That will not make me bring other spells into battle
Minions 6 only need one shot from AT12 and cost more than a golem? Really?
hogs cost more?

you had aim but someone sneezed and you put snot on the arrow...

Feedback???? JUST LOOK AT THE SMILES PLAYING UP ON USS

I haven't seen a gem box yet so I hope you make it abit more common :/

I think lvl 6 minions should be able to survive an AT lvl 12 shot

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Well, dude....would you still feel like flying after getting pierced through the gut with a flaming arrow?

Anyways interesting update love the heroes, but the rest doesn't affect me much.

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Dear Supersell, first off, thanks for the new hero abilities, L6 minions, and gem boxes, those are all nice. Thanks for the new mine/collector levels. Oh, wait, you didn't add them and left the loot to remain crappy? Cool!
The stuff you did was nice, but this (and renaming elder co leader pretty much) is what you've been doing for two months? Seriously? Also, thanks for making hogs more expensive and nerfing rage spell. Love my new favorite strategies/spells being nerfed, really do :rolleyes:
When will you learn that increasing gold output in an economy but not touching the input DOES NOT WORK.

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glad you kept things civil like they asked. Also coleader is not the same as elder. They can send out clan messages and change clan description/requirements. They only decreased level 5 rage spell... not really "nerfing" it.

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they removed the gem boxes. There was a bug, hopefully they will bring them back soon!

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they removed the gem boxes. There was a bug, hopefully they will bring them back soon!

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I heard its going to take a content update or something. So i guess we are going to have to wait till the next update in a month or two.

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Hi Marika,

thanks to you and the supercell team for staying tuned to us and for being interested in our feedbacks.

I'm one of Germany's top fifty player since more than 11 months with a fully maxed out base, have even spent some time in world's top 200 for some time an i' d like to give you my personal feedback of this last update regarding only changes to the game over 3500 trophies.

After changing the abilities of the heroes with this last update winning with a fully maxed out army has become really easy. If you are not drunk, with gowiwi and the superheroes plus the l5 freeze spell, maybe some rage, it has become impossible to loose an attack against every fully maxed out fortress. If you don't believe it, take a look at the statistics of Germany's top 50 players of the last days since the update. You will soon notice that you will not be able to count up to 10 won defences there since the update. Even my defence, which over the last months has been really succesfull, has nearly any chance against this overpowered superheroes any more.

So my main point is: With this update, balance at high level over 3500 is gone, defence is dead, and winning every attack has become normality.

I don't think this was a good and necessary change at high level play, maybe below.

thanks for reading this

best regards

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As of right now i am at 3796 Trophys and he couldnt be More Spot on with his statement

This has been by far most my most highly rated update! Thanks supercell! Cant please them all!

Hey Tim, recently I saw a gem box on someone's base it's so pretty! :D Does this mean it's enabled?

Also some say it's removed, so is that true or false?

Thanks! ;)

What if there was a reward of gems/ Resources for whenever you lvl up...for eg ▶️Below Lvl 40 Gets 5 gems For Every Lvl Up...Lvl 41--> Lvl 70 Gets 8 Gems Every Lvl Up And Finally Lvl 70+ Start Getting 10 Gems Every time they lvl upThanks In advanceClash On‼️

Loot is still terrible, I really hope it changes...

Okay so here is how I feel regarding the Valkyrie. As of the buff that she got during the update, I feel she now would be a viable troop to use regularly... However there is one thing holding me back: my Valkyrie is only level 1.
currently I would not use a level 1 troop, I would happily use the max level Valkyrie, yet the upgrade from level 1-2 costs 50k and takes 10 days! I would much prefer to spend my dark elixir on my heroes, and my lab time on troops I know will be good I. A short time.
so that is the reason that I am not using the Valkyrie, her upgrade time and cost (particularly at low levels) is far too expensive to commit to. Lower the cost and time for upgrading the Valkyrie and I would be much more likely to upgrade, and subsequently use her.

thanks for reading.

When will the Gem Box be fixed? It's been over 4 days now...

So far the update has been great SC. I was very worried about the hero buffs but so far they have not been to overpowering. Also I really like the extra gems from trees. My one problem with the update are the lvl 6 minions. I would like to see them a little stronger. I know a few have posted here on the forums about it and a health increase seems to be fair :). But overall great job on update, i love the game / give the minions some love.

Loot is still dog ♥♥♥♥ soon gemming will be the only way for upgrading

Well I don't see the point in the rage spell nerd but other than that I think that the update was well balanced Ik a lot of ppl have been angry about the lvl 6 minions not being able to take 2 hits from a lvl 12 archer tower to this I'd say that the balloon minion strategy is already a little op and with minions taking 2 hits it would make the high level gameplay dangerously unbalanced

For more clash of clans insights and ideas visit my forum profile an click on the link to my youtube channel

Keep Clashn' Guys...

everything is great ;), except for the part, LOOT SUCKS.

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As of right now i am at 3796 Trophys and he couldnt be More Spot on with his statement

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I fully agree with this and similar posts. My recent max is 3,736 and I enjoy setting up nice defensive structures as well as attacking. I can't play 24 hours a day like some folk so can only execute say 4-5 attacks per day. The problem now is that villages from well below you can attack and guarantee victory so they take 15 - 20 cups a time. I generally only get offered 1 or 2 cups for a victory. My guess is this means players like me will start to drift down the rankings, get bored and move on to something else.

PS - it takes a lot of gems to execute a defensive strategy too!


Plays as The_Professor, Clan Bashing Beavers, max 3,736

Queen abilities should have longer invisible time.

Hog already overpriced before the update and now it cost even more.

TOTALLY DISSAPOINTED

I have been playing around with Valkyries to see how they perform. I have run various tests against Sherbert Towers mixing them up with different troops and have found I get my best score on Sherbert Towers with an army that has a bias towards max Valks. I can get 100% without spells or heroes using this approach. The result is much better than GOWIWI, dragons, balloons plus minions etc when used without spells or heroes. Message me if you want the details.

I am experimenting with valks in the real game at Champ and it doesn't work quite so well because I think they bunch up in just the wrong places then get killed with splash damage but I think I may persevere as it is a new challenge now that GOWIWI and dragons are boring. It also means I am giving some free points to a few lucky folk I mess up on! With lower training time and slightly lower space requirements they would be awesome.

Is anyone else trying this approach? It would be good to exchange ideas and watch a few attacks.




Plays as The_Professor, clan Bashing Beavers, Max 3,736

I don't notice any difference after the update, well maybe one or two extra gems from items, but that's it. I have read they have changed some things but only for top players, nothing that affects maybe 90% of us.

Hi, I like the game since 8/2012 and I'm always happy to discover a new update. Untill the last one.
The best defense is to attack, but didn't you forget something ? Rage 5 less powerfull - why ?! while you offer Freeze 5. The heroes 40 were already too much, such as freeze 4... Minions 6, too expansive for what they gain, didn't notice the difference (but the colour). So what ? Maybe it's easier to attack (not for me) but do you know that, sometimes, it's pleasant to win a def ? Enough with the champion's league for me, it's impossible to resist to heroes 40 with freeze 5 and and and. All max in my village (but the walls and the heroes). So, really disappointed, it's not funny anymore.
Valkyries aren't used ? 15 min to form ! Change that if you want us to play them.
Great idea the gems-box (but not released yet) and the trees that give more gems. 10 gems-2 hours, great too. Chat during replays is good. You should do something for the global chat which is awfull.
But I'm really missing tesla 8 or a 3rd Inf-Tower. Not enough time to attack 10 times a day, can't defend anymore... :( bye.

Ive finnally worked it out, why would supercell persist in this failed loot system when everyone wants it changed back? Well there is a minority of inactive players who rely on there mines for resourses, lord knows ive kicked a few out of my clan ' but the thing is they spend a lot of gems! most havent even learned how to attack yet! they buy there way through the game then complain about losing so much loot! well supercell you are a business and its your right to look after your profits but you are killing the game! the active players that attack up to 20 times a session dont care if they lose half a million each raid, averages and common sense tell you that you just attack more than you get attacked and your in front, please dont destroy this great game of yours, look after the active players and dont appease the non active

Love the Hero's new abilities, if only for the few extra troops. Can't comment on the minions as I am a town hall lv9 and still a bit away from a town hall upgrade. The extra gems is a nice touch and unexpected.
As for the clan new rankings, again it doesnt really affect me as I switch from leader to elder when I want a break from the game (does help being in a mainly adult clan).
I would say this is the best upgrade since I started playing many many months ago.

My opinion on the update and general function of the game:
The update is good overall. In my humble opinion the increased amount of gems, chat functions, co-leader and decreased elder ability are welcome and the many tweaks are convenient improvements to the game.

The balance tweaks as Supercell calls it needs more work. This update and the some previous to it, has tipped the scales of balance in favor of only the attacker. Currently as it stands, it is very difficult to defend your base from attackers. A degree of luck and the hope of a mistake of the raider seems to be the only thing allowing a defensive win at the higher levels such as the champion league.

I was personally hoping for Supercell to add a defensive upgrade in addition to the sneak peeks they provided but unfortunately the update still focused solely on the attackers behalf. I have several accounts, one for farming and two for trophy pushing. The two "push accounts" are both lvl 130 & 131 respectively, one being maxed out (defense only) and the other not quite there yet (raid account). Either way, going off of my defense history, I have lost 25 of the last 29 defenses on the maxed account. The wins were simply because it was a bad raid or because the attacker made a mistake (dropping spells by accident etc). The imbalance makes those who only play defense demoralized.

What was the logic behind level 5 freeze? In my opinion level 4 freeze was more than sufficient, and again this upgrade further favors attackers. Understandably, supercell is a business and any business is interested in profits and cash flows. However, if supercell continues to ignore these imbalances, I am confident the future prospect of this company will suffer as many will no longer play and pour money into a zero-sum game.

In regards to troop's artificial intelligence (AI), the troops have been "acting weird". For instance, my clan-mate showed two replays where his golem walked past a defense directly in front of it and instead went to a wall. Is this a glitch? Have others complained about similar occurrences?

With regard to some of the farmers out there, my perspective is coming from my own farming base (TH8) and the majority of my clan (approx 46) people who are still farming. I am constantly hearing an increased volume of complaints about poor loot situations. Oftentimes my clan-mates complain about searching for over 20-30 minutes for loot. Occasionally we will see a replay of a "dead base" with great loot but those are appearing with less frequency than ever before. I cant speak for all the other clans out there but within my clan there are grumblings. People are becoming more frustrated and I'm also noticing the same trends on global.

Im sure I am leaving out some details but I think I have addressed my main concerns and feedback regarding the update and general points about the game. I hope you find it useful.

Pell

Hi there,

I informed the members of my clan about this post and asked what they thought about the most recent update. I have compiled their comments as feedback for you. I am currently in one of the top 10 clans and don't wish to name it, however I mention this because the bulk of us 'gem' and there is a comment in specific reference to that.


Comments:

1. In general everyone liked the new Hero ability.

2. In general the ability to boost the recovery of heroes was very well received.

3. In general people liked that the update seemed to take cost into consideration. Since we gem we obviously spend real money on the game, we fully realize that no one is forcing us to do this but since we do I thought this bit of feedback might be of interest to you.

4. Some felt that defense was now more difficult because of the Hero ability.

5. Some felt the air defense was not strong enough because of those (blasted) sky lizards, i.e. dragons.

6. Members who have more than 3800 cups discovered they could chat while searching for a raid and really liked this, however once they dropped under 3800 this function was no longer available to them. Since a good part of the Clash experience is 'social' cuppers under 3800 felt that not being able to take part in clan conversation because they spend so much time 'in the clouds' actually took away from their enjoyment of the game.

7. Lastly and not really a feedback comment but more of a question and possible 'bug'. One of the members discovered he was raided while editing his village. He was in clan chat while editing and said that tombstones suddenly appeared. When the other members checked his base it had in fact been raided. Is this perhaps a bug or is it now possible to raid people while they are in edit mode?

Anyway, that's all for now. Thank you for reading.

ammopig

Is it that hard to refresh the experience with some new gameplay content? Every update is the same. A few tweaks to the user experience in chat, menus etc and then cash grab troop upgrades. The new hero abilities are toted as "free" but in actuality it's just an effort to get people to upgrade their heroes another 5 levels. For me personally the best part of the update was the ability to speed boost hero recovery. Also the ability to chat while visiting/replaying. I would really appreciate seeing some new gameplay content added. Ideally it would be best if the new gameplay was interactive for the entire clan. I am not a software developer and have no idea what it would take to implement live clan wide events or even a "clan wars". However I now play battle beach and samurai siege and both have implemented these ideas and my clan has all shifted their interests. Also other features I have noticed that are successful is having a clan profile and the ability to level up your clan. This is really exciting as higher level clans have perks available that benefit all players as each new level is achieved. One example is at level 12 the entire clan receives a 5% boots to all their troops effectiveness. The clan leveling is well received by all former clash players i know. Also the clan rewards during live events and wars are well worth competing. The last war event was very successful for our "alliance" and we were able to unlock a few rewards for all our hard work. We received a few new temporary attack/defense units and a temporary maxed elixer mine. We all competed as a clan and felt rewarded after all our hard raiding. You can see everyones individual participation so it makes it very exciting and fun. Clash of clans easily has the best raiding AI and graphics but they just don't reward their players for playing. Even the looting has become a major chore that doesn't pay. Yes I am a TH10 player but still I have seen samurai sieges's currency system and they just aren't stingy with the available loot. I can make 5-10 million jade (gold) in an evening of hard raiding. That would be great for me in clash as im currently working on level 9/10 walls. Anyone that know clash knows that making 10 million gold in an evening with a TH10 ain't happening. Yes I understand the loot penalties to help prevent big accounts smashing smaller ones but I get pillaged all the time in siege and it just doesn't bother me that much knowing I can go out and make serious loot in one evening. Anyway this sounds like a samurai siege endorsement but in all actuality I just wish supercell would make an effort to freshen things up for players such as myself that have dedicated a year to this game. Its just not as fun anymore. I think we need a big update next time. Something literally game changing. Sorry for the novel but i feel like this is my last effort. Hopefully someone hears me.

Thanks for your time peeps,

Knox

Hi,

I posted yesterday but a clan mate of mine had a couple new comments so I'm adding them.|

1. He said a friend of his, who has 2900 cups, was able to use clan chat while searching. Previously I had written that this function appeared to be only available to people with 3800 cups or more. I have just over 3000 cups yet the chat while searching function is not available to me.

2. He said he had an issue where he was raided while searching for a raid himself. He'd been searching for about two minutes then when he went back to his own village he found he'd been raided.

Thank you.

I posted yesterday as well but my clan wanted to add more issues we are experiencing. When I and about 2 others went to raid, the action froze. We troubleshot this issue by using several devices and other wi-fi/internet servers.

The issue as it happened: drop troops, nothing occurs, time stops, then about 20 seconds later everything unfreezes but the deplyed troops are dead and we lost the time from the raid itself.

Wonder if others are experiencing similar issues.

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I posted yesterday as well but my clan wanted to add more issues we are experiencing. When I and about 2 others went to raid, the action froze. We troubleshot this issue by using several devices and other wi-fi/internet servers.

The issue as it happened: drop troops, nothing occurs, time stops, then about 20 seconds later everything unfreezes but the deplyed troops are dead and we lost the time from the raid itself.

Wonder if others are experiencing similar issues.

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Possibly you are using an iPad, have multi tasking gestures enabled, and were deploying troops with 4 fingers, and accidently slid it a little (the way u switch between apps) and then when it came back the troops were dead and time gone. That happened to me before so now i am limited to deploy troops with only 3 fingers at a time, but that is nothing of Supercells fault if ur issue is the same as i have had

this might have been answered already but how many gems were the gem boxes supposed to give you before they were bugged and disabled

Edit: I liked the update but I really want some single player missions if its not too much to ask

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My friend got 20.

My feedback is that this is a great update, but I hope to see the gem box re-enabled soon. That was one of the cool parts of this update that got me all happy and jumpy :D

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Is it that hard to refresh the experience with some new gameplay content? Every update is the same. A few tweaks to the user experience in chat, menus etc and then cash grab troop upgrades..... etc etc

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Share similar thoughts as you, though I have already expected nothing worth returning to CoC before this update was released.

Good for those who found reasons to rejoice over this new update, but for some of us veteran players, there's still nothing to entice us in coming back.

Doesn't really matter now though, since I can now spend my time better on other things. I'm just checking the forum once in a while when I happen to have free time.

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• Level 12 collectors
• Clan wars
• Co-leader rank
• New quests
• Loot bonus reworking (increasing/adding a defensive bonus)
• New Goblin missions
• New DE Troop
• Troop AI fixes (PEKKA, Healer, *Valkyrie was somewhat helped)
• Inferno Tower change
• New Achievements

These are the ten most requested Forum posts that I had seen leading up to the new update. I tried to order them by how desired they seemed to be. SC got one of them right, in my opinion the easiest one by far, but none the less, they did it. The other nine were left to wrought.
The Hero abilities are interesting, and the Level six minions, while they are being highly criticized, are a nice shade of purple. However 90% of the content that was actually commonly requested wasn't even acknowledged.

I have taken several days to write this to calm down, and be sure to fully evaluate the new features, and upon reflection, this update was weak.

If you want your fan base to truly "ooh" and "aww", or more importantly play longer and recruit their friends, give us an update that we ask for. Nothing fancy, just read the Request section, and skim the General section, and send your Cells to work on that. Then we will be happy.

Chris
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Agree /boost

Lol, I just read that SC celebrates when they fail... I'm guessing they are still too drunk to fix the gem box...It's been 6 days already, please sober up...the gem box was the best part of the update imo.

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I am not a software developer and have no idea what it would take to implement live clan wide events or even a "clan wars". However I now play battle beach and samurai siege and both have implemented these ideas and my clan has all shifted their interests. Also other features I have noticed that are successful is having a clan profile and the ability to level up your clan. This is really exciting as higher level clans have perks available that benefit all players as each new level is achieved. One example is at level 12 the entire clan receives a 5% boots to all their troops effectiveness. The clan leveling is well received by all former clash players i know. Also the clan rewards during live events and wars are well worth competing. The last war event was very successful for our "alliance" and we were able to unlock a few rewards for all our hard work. We received a few new temporary attack/defense units and a temporary maxed elixer mine. We all competed as a clan and felt rewarded after all our hard raiding. You can see everyones individual participation so it makes it very exciting and fun. Clash of clans easily has the best raiding AI and graphics but they just don't reward their players for playing. Even the looting has become a major chore that doesn't pay. Yes I am a TH10 player but still I have seen samurai sieges's currency system and they just aren't stingy with the available loot. I can make 5-10 million jade (gold) in an evening of hard raiding. That would be great for me in clash as im currently working on level 9/10 walls. Anyone that know clash knows that making 10 million gold in an evening with a TH10 ain't happening. Yes I understand the loot penalties to help prevent big accounts smashing smaller ones but I get pillaged all the time in siege and it just doesn't bother me that much knowing I can go out and make serious loot in one evening. Anyway this sounds like a samurai siege endorsement but in all actuality I just wish supercell would make an effort to freshen things up for players such as myself that have dedicated a year to this game. Its just not as fun anymore. I think we need a big update next time. Something literally game changing. Sorry for the novel but i feel like this is my last effort. Hopefully someone hears me.

Thanks for your time peeps,

Knox

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I agree on this. I would recommend SC to try and play another similar game to coc, samurai siege for example and take note of the following:
1. War and war points concept
2. Interesting single player storyline
3. Single interface to train all your troops - a lot easier than to scroll between barracks.

I'm playing both right now but a bit biased towards coc, because my cheap phone does not handle the graphics in the other game well.
but truth be told, my alliance in that game is getting more and more members from coc hardcores. As if they are jumping ships, since they got nothing more to strive for in coc.

hope that I am heard. Thank you.

Dear SC, your game is broken. Remember your big loot system change back in November/December that promised bigger loots to hurry bigger upgrades? Well... It doesn't work. Sick of being a th 10 that spends a 100k looking for a village to plunder only to find 65 th 8s with 10k, 33 th 9s with 20k, n 1 th 10 with 125k that is so maxed out i couldn't even sniff half of that loot even if i was lucky. Your game is starting to become work rather than enjoyment. I work to work not play to work. Fix your s***.

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I agree on this. I would recommend SC to try and play another similar game to coc, samurai siege for example and take note of the following:
1. War and war points concept
2. Interesting single player storyline
3. Single interface to train all your troops - a lot easier than to scroll between barracks.

I'm playing both right now but a bit biased towards coc, because my cheap phone does not handle the graphics in the other game well.
but truth be told, my alliance in that game is getting more and more members from coc hardcores. As if they are jumping ships, since they got nothing more to strive for in coc.

hope that I am heard. Thank you.

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Yes unfortunately my entire clan has stopped playing COC as well. We have champion/master bases deserted. I can appreciate like any video game, people complete it and loose interest/move on...however seeings how all of them have started playing samurai siege and are extremely active this leads me to believe they weren't in fact done with clash. They just needed something new and were sick of not being rewarded for playing. It feels punishing to play clash. Like a chore. I have talked to everyone and its a general consensus. Clash has not implemented any means to retain tenured players. They all agree that clash has the best AI with respect to raiding as well the best graphics. Its functionality and user experience are top notch. We all love it but there is no more reason to play. This isn't just maxed TH10s talking. Several TH8s and 9s echo this same sentiment. Available loots are terrible therefor upgrade times/costs feel unachievable. They need balance there. However even if that changed it still wouldn't be enough. There needs to be a new element to gameplay. Something we can all get involved in together. Last night my entire alliance in samurai siege stayed up until 2am MST competing in a clan war. It was a 12 hour long war vs 3 other clans and it came right down to the wire. This was a work week day/night and everyone was participating, chatting and gemming troops to get ahead. It was a blast! I quickly logged into my clash account at the end of the night to see -22 trophies on my max base and a clan chat that goes back 3 days. It was sad to see but at this point I just feel apathetic. I didn't even reload any defense units or request troops. I Just logged off. We were once such an active, incredible clan. Supercell if you don't think this is an issue then your ignorance/arrogance will surely manifest your demise. Hmmm....I guess I still care enough to write this novel in a forum.

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Yes unfortunately my entire clan has stopped playing COC as well. We have champion/master bases deserted. I can appreciate like any video game, people complete it and loose interest/move on...however seeings how all of them have started playing samurai siege and are extremely active this leads me to believe they weren't in fact done with clash. They just needed something new and were sick of not being rewarded for playing. It feels punishing to play clash. Like a chore. I have talked to everyone and its a general consensus. Clash has not implemented any means to retain tenured players. They all agree that clash has the best AI with respect to raiding as well the best graphics. Its functionality and user experience are top notch. We all love it but there is no more reason to play. This isn't just maxed TH10s talking. Several TH8s and 9s echo this same sentiment. Available loots are terrible therefor upgrade times/costs feel unachievable. They need balance there. However even if that changed it still wouldn't be enough. There needs to be a new element to gameplay. Something we can all get involved in together. Last night my entire alliance in samurai siege stayed up until 2am MST competing in a clan war. It was a 12 hour long war vs 3 other clans and it came right down to the wire. This was a work week day/night and everyone was participating, chatting and gemming troops to get ahead. It was a blast! I quickly logged into my clash account at the end of the night to see -22 trophies on my max base and a clan chat that goes back 3 days. It was sad to see but at this point I just feel apathetic. I didn't even reload any defense units or request troops. I Just logged off. We were once such an active, incredible clan. Supercell if you don't think this is an issue then your ignorance/arrogance will surely manifest your demise. Hmmm....I guess I still care enough to write this novel in a forum.

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Well said. The only reason I log in anymore is to talk with clan mates. I am a TH9 no where near maxed, and I feel no need/have no desire to play anymore and it is solely because it has become a chore to upgrade with the terrible loot system. It is some work of god that I have two builders busy atm, when a few months ago having all 5 was normal. All I see now are raids with 10-50k, and a VERY rare 100k after nexting for 10 minutes. Unfortunately for SC, they have already shown that they have no desire to fix the loot and I like most have given up on them. Thank god for samurai siege and castle clash. RIP SC and CoC, you did it to yourself.

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Hi all,

It's update time and we'd love to hear your feedback about the new stuff (listed here). Please take your time to test out the new features you have access to and leave your comments below.

Also... I have a challenge for you! Let's try to keep this thread super-civil and super-constructive! That'd be super-swell :D

Thanks for your time!

>> READ THE RELEASE NOTES HERE <<

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I think that it is a lot more harder to find loot, but will be consistent at difficult trophies levels... Or a bad thing. The barbarians king ability in my opinion is OP in its own way, and the queen ability should be replaced/buff other troops... That's the gist of it

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Possibly you are using an iPad, have multi tasking gestures enabled, and were deploying troops with 4 fingers, and accidently slid it a little (the way u switch between apps) and then when it came back the troops were dead and time gone. That happened to me before so now i am limited to deploy troops with only 3 fingers at a time, but that is nothing of Supercells fault if ur issue is the same as i have had

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Yes, i know what you're talking about but that isnt the case here. I was raiding my Champion League account and i dont simply drag and drop troops carelessly. I do when i farm and theres nothing wrong with that method, however, in my humble opinion, raiding at the champ levels require more precision and thought.

Thanks for suggesting something though.

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Originally Posted by xXKnoxKingXx

Yes unfortunately my entire clan has stopped playing COC as well. We have champion/master bases deserted. I can appreciate like any video game, people complete it and loose interest/move on...however seeings how all of them have started playing samurai siege and are extremely active this leads me to believe they weren't in fact done with clash. They just needed something new and were sick of not being rewarded for playing. It feels punishing to play clash. Like a chore. I have talked to everyone and its a general consensus. Clash has not implemented any means to retain tenured players. They all agree that clash has the best AI with respect to raiding as well the best graphics. Its functionality and user experience are top notch. We all love it but there is no more reason to play. This isn't just maxed TH10s talking. Several TH8s and 9s echo this same sentiment. Available loots are terrible therefor upgrade times/costs feel unachievable. They need balance there. However even if that changed it still wouldn't be enough. There needs to be a new element to gameplay. Something we can all get involved in together. Last night my entire alliance in samurai siege stayed up until 2am MST competing in a clan war. It was a 12 hour long war vs 3 other clans and it came right down to the wire. This was a work week day/night and everyone was participating, chatting and gemming troops to get ahead. It was a blast! I quickly logged into my clash account at the end of the night to see -22 trophies on my max base and a clan chat that goes back 3 days. It was sad to see but at this point I just feel apathetic. I didn't even reload any defense units or request troops. I Just logged off. We were once such an active, incredible clan. Supercell if you don't think this is an issue then your ignorance/arrogance will surely manifest your demise. Hmmm....I guess I still care enough to write this novel in a forum.

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Wow, agree with you here, very well said. We are experiencing frustration in my clan as well. There are whispers of people who are considering quitting. I sincerely hope supercell listens to us, provides an overarching response to our feedback/plight, and actually provides solutions.

Since the update many of my clan mates, who are ranked 3400 plus champs, have seen a change in the matching system.

All of them have reported matches which only offer them 1 - 3 cups per 3 star win. Because of this many haven't raided for 2 -3 days at a time. The reason I post in this in this part of the forum as feedback is because they said it was not this way before the latest update.

In fact they are getting so irritated with a game they once loved that many have said they want to quit. Supercell - you may or may not care about this fact - but keep in mind these are people who buy gems so they can keep playing at the - maybe one lost customer doesn't mean anything to you but it's not just one.

I have attached a screen shot - look at the cups on offer.

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Originally Posted by CJH1X4X

• Level 12 collectors
• Clan wars
• Co-leader rank
• New quests
• Loot bonus reworking (increasing/adding a defensive bonus)
• New Goblin missions
• New DE Troop
• Troop AI fixes (PEKKA, Healer, *Valkyrie was somewhat helped)
• Inferno Tower change
• New Achievements

These are the ten most requested Forum posts that I had seen leading up to the new update. I tried to order them by how desired they seemed to be. SC got one of them right, in my opinion the easiest one by far, but none the less, they did it. The other nine were left to wrought.
The Hero abilities are interesting, and the Level six minions, while they are being highly criticized, are a nice shade of purple. However 90% of the content that was actually commonly requested wasn't even acknowledged.

I have taken several days to write this to calm down, and be sure to fully evaluate the new features, and upon reflection, this update was weak.

If you want your fan base to truly "ooh" and "aww", or more importantly play longer and recruit their friends, give us an update that we ask for. Nothing fancy, just read the Request section, and skim the General section, and send your Cells to work on that. Then we will be happy.

Chris
Co-Leader

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Totally agree.

Most people will spend money for something fun.

If you try to hard sell and gouge people, they will leave and never come back.

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Originally Posted by Tim[Supercell]

http://i.imgur.com/LoINyIm.png

Hi all,

It's update time and we'd love to hear your feedback about the new stuff (listed here). Please take your time to test out the new features you have access to and leave your comments below.

Also... I have a challenge for you! Let's try to keep this thread super-civil and super-constructive! That'd be super-swell :D

Thanks for your time!

>> READ THE RELEASE NOTES HERE <<

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Hard to take words like "Civil" from a mod that uses both "haters" and "gonna hate" in his tag lines... But if I'm to understand you correctly, anyone who knows the loot is broken, is articulate enough to post here is a hater..Good To know... Oh hang on...gotta go loot in an economy thats functioning....Yay Walls!!

Ok, so I'm back.. To once again try and get someone, anyone at supercell to fix this loot problem. READ THE FORUMS!! Clash is dying...We have been asking you to fix the loot for months. It has been proven her and elsewhere how broken it is, the failure of your understanding the problem in your deployed "fix", Even offers of free labor to help fix it!!..but alas..Nothing..

Now, Months later, you have days or maybe weeks to fix this at most. Players are flocking away, forum post numbers down, traffic down, I know you IAP's are down too but you'll never state that here..ALL OF OUR GEMMERS are with your competitors now!! ..and why not? At what point DID supercell think that their players should have to log on to A GAME ON A **** phone for 12 hours a day to buy a wallpiece?

Ohh and one last things devs/mods...before you ban me again for telling the truth here...FIX THE LOOT!! Lol

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Originally Posted by Stonevapor

Hard to take words like "Civil" from a mod that uses both "haters" and "gonna hate" in his tag lines... But if I'm to understand you correctly, anyone who knows the loot is broken, is articulate enough to post here is a hater..Good To know... Oh hang on...gotta go loot in an economy thats functioning....Yay Walls!!

Ok, so I'm back.. To once again try and get someone, anyone at supercell to fix this loot problem. READ THE FORUMS!! Clash is dying...We have been asking you to fix the loot for months. It has been proven her and elsewhere how broken it is, the failure of your understanding the problem in your deployed "fix", Even offers of free labor to help fix it!!..but alas..Nothing..

Now, Months later, you have days or maybe weeks to fix this at most. Players are flocking away, forum post numbers down, traffic down, I know you IAP's are down too but you'll never state that here..ALL OF OUR GEMMERS are with your competitors now!! ..and why not? At what point DID supercell think that their players should have to log on to A GAME ON A **** phone for 12 hours a day to buy a wallpiece?

Ohh and one last things devs/mods...before you ban me again for telling the truth here...FIX THE LOOT!! Lol

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Finally someone that says it like it is.


Amen!

Been a few weeks

well one opinion of mine about the update is the game is boring again, heros ability sure does give us that zing, i havnt gemmed my heros healing time , i have nothing to research , I could do valks or golem but i need de which is hard to get because town hall 10 and disco balls kill anything ,

my my suggestion, like xbow, if people choose multi mode it can only attack ground troops if normal mode range is shorter and can target any. That or only have three beams instead of 5" but what i say is show us why u super cell dont think inferno are over powered with proof of your concept,

trees still give no gems, or 4 gems 2 gems 1 gem, rare is it i get 5 gems,,,, so that part isn't working,

At the end of the day i gave u great constructive feedback in my other post, yet nil feedback from u, the whole point of this thread is to engage with your customers

Loot has been terrible last week and is deteriorating every day...

Coc is dying no doubt there was 100+ in my year lvl and now only 3 so fix the game make the loot better and bring something new to bring back ppl

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Originally Posted by CJH1X4X

• Level 12 collectors
• Clan wars
• Co-leader rank
• New quests
• Loot bonus reworking (increasing/adding a defensive bonus)
• New Goblin missions
• New DE Troop
• Troop AI fixes (PEKKA, Healer, *Valkyrie was somewhat helped)
• Inferno Tower change
• New Achievements

These are the ten most requested Forum posts that I had seen leading up to the new update. I tried to order them by how desired they seemed to be. SC got one of them right, in my opinion the easiest one by far, but none the less, they did it. The other nine were left to wrought.
The Hero abilities are interesting, and the Level six minions, while they are being highly criticized, are a nice shade of purple. However 90% of the content that was actually commonly requested wasn't even acknowledged.

I have taken several days to write this to calm down, and be sure to fully evaluate the new features, and upon reflection, this update was weak.

If you want your fan base to truly "ooh" and "aww", or more importantly play longer and recruit their friends, give us an update that we ask for. Nothing fancy, just read the Request section, and skim the General section, and send your Cells to work on that. Then we will be happy.

Chris
Co-Leader

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Logged onto clash this morning to find they had all started playing Samurai Siege and after a day of playing i can see why.... Samurai Siege is everything Clash should be, how can they call themselves clash of 'clans' when there is nothing special about clans appart from there are loads of them?? No bonus or any incentives for going for trophies (appart from a naff bonus), so everyone just farms constantly.

I have dedicated over a year to this game (a lot of money!) and being lvl 102, im so sad that I'm playing another clash type game but what do you expect from us? Since when was 1 defencive upgrade and a bug fix ever going to keep people interested i.e. Most of last years updates. The christmas update was only slightly better but not enough to keep people interested... I just think the money must have gone to supercells heads and they are just coasting it now... Oh and the chat updates are a joke, how can you take a year to do so little?

As this list puts it, only one update this year that people have asked for... Shame on you....

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✔ New plant growth is being found with more gems inside than ever before!

Why? Because we care :D

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I've been tracking the number of gems per obstacle across the four CoC accounts in my family. I currently have data for 62 obstacles that have spawned since the update, and I graphed a running average of the previous 20 obstacles (43 running-average data points) to get a sense of whether the numbers were changing over time. The graph is below.

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First.... I would like to apologize for my late response... This thread was started a week ago and I am now just responding... Although, I have a fair reason for my tardiness... I have been pressing the Next button the entire time!:(

Gem Boosts to two hours - I was really excited about this... But, I have come to realize it's not really worth it due to the constant nexting it causes you to be searching most of the boost. Bummer.:(

Gem Box - Well, I guess we won't go there:(

Gem Increase for Obstacles - Awesome add:cool:... Can't see why anyone would complain here.

Hero Abilities - I have been unable to use my heroes because they are always upgrading :( ... It does look like it will be a game changer on offense though... I look forward to using them

Minions - mehhhh, I don't use dark troops very often... always seem to be saving for Heroes

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Originally Posted by xXKnoxKingXx

Yes unfortunately my entire clan has stopped playing COC as well. We have champion/master bases deserted. I can appreciate like any video game, people complete it and loose interest/move on...however seeings how all of them have started playing samurai siege and are extremely active this leads me to believe they weren't in fact done with clash. They just needed something new and were sick of not being rewarded for playing. It feels punishing to play clash. Like a chore. I have talked to everyone and its a general consensus. Clash has not implemented any means to retain tenured players. They all agree that clash has the best AI with respect to raiding as well the best graphics. Its functionality and user experience are top notch. We all love it but there is no more reason to play. This isn't just maxed TH10s talking. Several TH8s and 9s echo this same sentiment. Available loots are terrible therefor upgrade times/costs feel unachievable. They need balance there. However even if that changed it still wouldn't be enough. There needs to be a new element to gameplay. Something we can all get involved in together. Last night my entire alliance in samurai siege stayed up until 2am MST competing in a clan war. It was a 12 hour long war vs 3 other clans and it came right down to the wire. This was a work week day/night and everyone was participating, chatting and gemming troops to get ahead. It was a blast! I quickly logged into my clash account at the end of the night to see -22 trophies on my max base and a clan chat that goes back 3 days. It was sad to see but at this point I just feel apathetic. I didn't even reload any defense units or request troops. I Just logged off. We were once such an active, incredible clan. Supercell if you don't think this is an issue then your ignorance/arrogance will surely manifest your demise. Hmmm....I guess I still care enough to write this novel in a forum.

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Wow... I don't know what to say to this... He summed it up pretty well here...

I have hope that there are some hardcore clashers that have farmed Level 9,10,11 walls on the Supercell team and know what's it's like for a dedicated clasher to start to lose interest over game mechanics... If so, we have some chance as they are hopefully pushing to bring some game changing features ( I do want to give Supercell credit for the Heroes Abilities - they were unique and a nice add, but, I still feel like I'm missing something and need more )

its a very nice update i like the promotion to co leader i think promotion make the game more fun and give action i think the game would be better if there is a promotion for elders like:
elderIII rank 3,elder II elder I,then co leader it will be very great like a big castle