Update FEEDBACK

Royal Cloak - Very much like the ability to drop aggro, quite fitting seeing as she tends to move toward the center of a base.

Iron Fist - Neat, but doesn't address his weakness. Since the King tends to wonder the outside of a base, would have been more useful to have an aura that mimicked the heal, jump or even freeze spells to better keep him alive and/or take out the defenses currently attacking him.

Changes to minions and freeze spell do not affect me yet, so no comment on those.

Comboing the gem overgrowth with halving the boosting cost/time for barracks/spell factory was brilliant. I'd never pay 20 gems to boost the spell factory, but I see myself frequently boosting it at 10, especially when I just blew all 4 of my spells and want to restock quickly.

Speaking of gem overgrowth, seriously thank you guys sooo much :) Haven't received a gem box yet (I know they were disabled) so can't comment on those.

Co-Leader role and editing the elder role was a good move, thanks for that as well.

UI improvements are always welcome, though none of this batch really matter to me personally. Regardless, good job guys/gals. Ditto on balance tweaks.

Overall I'd give this update an 8/10 :cool:

This update looks like a bit of fun.
The previous update makes elix. too difficult to collect. there is less available and spells use it. It is very difficult to pay for troops and spells and save.

Cheers

SC, from my perspective, you've found the perfect way to get me to buy gems. I was never going to be a big-time gemmer, never going to spend hundreds of gems to get my upgrades to finish faster. So I never had much reason to buy gems. But now I will, since I will most definitely use a small number of gems to make the actual game play more fun. Boosts for heroes, barracks, spell factory -- yes, it's very much worth it to me to use 20-50 gems per playing session so that I can actually play more. I didn't do it when we had to spend 20 gems for four hours, because I couldn't usually commit to that much sustained play. But ten gems for two hours is just right. Love this change. Brilliant strategy on your part: more money for you, more game-playing satisfaction for me.

For me at TH9, though, the problem has been and remains the lack of available loot. People in my clan who are TH7 and TH8 regularly show their battles in which they've gotten 300K, 400K, and occasionally even 500K of gold or elixir. I rarely if ever even see those levels, and the few times that I do, they belong to TH10 villages with full Inferno Towers and high-level x-bows (in other words, villages that I have no chance of successfully raiding). When I do see a village that I have a chance to beat, it tends to be in the 50-90K range of loot, which is not terrible (provided you can get 100% of it), but not great. I can play for three hours, even win most of my battles, and still end up only a couple hundred thousand beyond where I started. And then when I *do* get 3 or 4 million gold on my way to an upgrade, I get 100% obliterated by TH10s with all their hogs -- I lose the 350-400K that I just laboriously won, and I'm right back where I started.

I'm probably just not a very skillful player, but it's frustrating not to be able to get ahead.

On the other hand, I guess there's no rush. I'm certainly in no hurry to get to TH10, where the loot situation is probably worse.

I don't have any good solutions, since I know that you have to maintain a proper balance among all elements. But it seems to me that we need to find new ways to get more loot into the game. Would it disrupt the balance too much if we got lvl 12 mines and collectors for TH9 and TH10?

Another thing I'd love to see is a permanent version of that Christmas present bomb -- something where we have a chance of gaining extra loot if an invader triggers the trap. As things stand now, we not only lose whatever a raider manages to steal during a raid, but we also lose the cost of replacing traps and reloading x-bows (which after one recent attack cost me nearly 50K of elixir on top of the 200K I lost in the raid). Some sort of permanent gift bomb would help offset those extra costs.

I've noticed this before and haven't seen much people address this but the friend's tab does not show the league that the player is in

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Originally Posted by PhamTheMan

I've noticed this before and haven't seen much people address this but the friend's tab does not show the league that the player is in

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Also have noticed this, should get fixed ASAP in my opinion

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Originally Posted by CJH1X4X

• Level 12 collectors
• Clan wars
• Co-leader rank
• New quests
• Loot bonus reworking (increasing/adding a defensive bonus)
• New Goblin missions
• New DE Troop
• Troop AI fixes (PEKKA, Healer, *Valkyrie was somewhat helped)
• Inferno Tower change
• New Achievements

These are the ten most requested Forum posts that I had seen leading up to the new update. I tried to order them by how desired they seemed to be. SC got one of them right, in my opinion the easiest one by far, but none the less, they did it. The other nine were left to wrought.
The Hero abilities are interesting, and the Level six minions, while they are being highly criticized, are a nice shade of purple. However 90% of the content that was actually commonly requested wasn't even acknowledged.

I have taken several days to write this to calm down, and be sure to fully evaluate the new features, and upon reflection, this update was weak.

If you want your fan base to truly "ooh" and "aww", or more importantly play longer and recruit their friends, give us an update that we ask for. Nothing fancy, just read the Request section, and skim the General section, and send your Cells to work on that. Then we will be happy.

Chris
Co-Leader

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Well spoken i agree 100%

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Originally Posted by CJH1X4X

• Level 12 collectors
• Clan wars
• Co-leader rank
• New quests
• Loot bonus reworking (increasing/adding a defensive bonus)
• New Goblin missions
• New DE Troop
• Troop AI fixes (PEKKA, Healer, *Valkyrie was somewhat helped)
• Inferno Tower change
• New Achievements

These are the ten most requested Forum posts that I had seen leading up to the new update. I tried to order them by how desired they seemed to be. SC got one of them right, in my opinion the easiest one by far, but none the less, they did it. The other nine were left to wrought.
The Hero abilities are interesting, and the Level six minions, while they are being highly criticized, are a nice shade of purple. However 90% of the content that was actually commonly requested wasn't even acknowledged.

I have taken several days to write this to calm down, and be sure to fully evaluate the new features, and upon reflection, this update was weak.

If you want your fan base to truly "ooh" and "aww", or more importantly play longer and recruit their friends, give us an update that we ask for. Nothing fancy, just read the Request section, and skim the General section, and send your Cells to work on that. Then we will be happy.

Chris
Co-Leader

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And it seems that most of the new hints in the update weren't even thought of by anyone before

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Originally Posted by silentIze

Hi I'm new to the forums but I am a seasoned clasher and a huge clash lover. For how highly anticipated this update was, it is disappointing how lack luster the content is.
Let me start by saying that the hero abilities are pretty sweet, a solid idea, and a solid start. However that's kinda where things fall off. Might I suggest that the hero ability auras should effect all troops within range, I mean who rolls with enough barbs to make a difference in that regard? And for how short the aura lasts it doesn't seem like it would be a big deal.
I don't understand the pricing for Minions lvl 6, I get that they're max level troops, but 100,000 de for the tiny stat improvement!? Where's the logic behind that..(reminds me of how mindless the clan castle upgrade costs are..1.8 mil for lvl 4....7 mil for lvl 5!?).
My next beef lies with the cost increase of my beloved hogs, and while I'm happy that SC chose not to nerf their DPS the change has been crippling to my army. Hog riders are my favorite troop and I love hog farming, I roll with 20 hogs, currently lvl 4 which used to cost me 900de, now with the upgrade 20 hogs lvl 4 is around 1100 de. Not to mention that I'm 5 days from maxed hogs which will cost me 1300 de every 20 hogs..the margin of increase has made it difficult to break even. Honestly I don't understand why SC would do this, hogs are good but inferno towers and clan troops/heroes can absolutely paralyze hog farmers. FIX MY HOGS!
My final dispute with SC is in regard to premature TH10s and the overwhelming power of inferno towers. It seems as though the game is being catered to players willing to blow loads of gems on speeding up buildings and most often maxing out their TH in order to access the clearly over powered inferno towers. This creates two problems. The first problem is that the game is becoming overgrown with premature TH10s, bases myself and many other high lever players would easily put to shame had they not prematurely reached the highest level for inferno towers. I can't count how many times I have come across a TH10 that had all gold walls, with low level towers such as level 2 wizard tower, but still had the inferno towers which almost always insure my defeat. The second thing that this does is it bores premature players. Players end up maxing TH, getting infernos and then get bored when it takes forever to upgrade everything else, leaving us with inactive bases to raid that still host nearly invincible inferno towers, yet lack the desirable loot. Don't get me wrong though, I love raiding inactive players, but premature THs almost never yield the desirable loot necessary to be willing to take on the threatening ability of the inferno towers. My request is simple, first NERF THE INFERNO ALREADY! Especially the charge up. It is making prematurity too appealing. Maybe consider a loot penalty for players with obvious prematurity, I'm not quite sure how things would resolve but I am sure there is a way to fix this issue.


Thanks for listening- Isaac
TH9-Snicker Fortres

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Great point with the premature th.10's.. And totally agrea, it's crazy so many of those we see after inferno change, with just focus on getting the OP disco infernos while rest of the village is at best at th7 level.

But guess that now the infernos are pretty much all that is needed.. Put it on disco mode, and rest of deffence hardly matters if updated or not. :-/


Ohh yes.. And hogs should really be buffed, not nerfed... We ned those hog armies in the top game, fighting in champions league and bringing more players up there where more players are definetly needed...

So Instead of nerfing them all the time, forcing hog fighters further and further down to only farm and pray on weaker players, buff them back to be able to fight the real fight for trophies..

What I like:
The hero abilities are a nice touch as well as the chat window update.

Extra gems from trees and gem box is a nice addition.

What I don't like:
First and foremost I'm disappointed SC didn't address the loot system. There needs to be an injection of additional resources at higher TH levels to avoid the endless minutes of searching while attacking. I can't keep track of the number of bases that have less than 50k resources I come across while farming.

Second, despite endless requests and previous mentions by SC that they were working on it, clan wars has yet to become a reality. I would have thought that we could have at least tested a trial system by this point. I'm super disappointed this hasn't made it in.

100k DK for level 6 minions seems excessive. I will not be upgrading to them ( although I admit I'm a long way off from lvl 6)

Overall, my opinion of the update isn't positive.

Loving the Co-Leader position! Has created a new level of goals for my clan! We are even doing nominations!

Can't say I've found a gem box yet, but at least the logs and trees are paying out a bit kinder.

The other tweaks have not changed my gameplay as much, but I'm still only lvl 46 so I have a long way to go to enjoy some of the cool additions.

Thanks guys.