Potential Healer Nerf

Hello fellow clashers, recently there have been very many healer giant and healer hog attacks that have been dominating across the board. People destroy or lightning spell the
air defense and just dominate. I always use all traps yet when 3 or more healers are in play
it is a game over with mass hogs. I don't mean to complain but giants have been buffed in the past few updates and now it is kind of getting out of hand at times. This may be the fact that I'm a th9 with no
infernos but now especially hog healer is getting out of control in my opinion. While i know many people may disagree with me and i see why people may, i think healers need less heal per shot, hogs need less speed (not too bad of an idea), or giant hit point slightly reduced. Thx for reading and constructive criticism is appreciated. Have a nice day and clash on!

I disagree. I thought healers were actually kind of a dead troop, because no one i know uses them. Hogs get ahead of the healers, forcing the healers to cut thought the base and get shot down. Heal spells are overall easier to use. Healers are so easy to kill my base never has an issue. Just a few shots from an air defense or archer and down goes the healer. Just setup seeking air mines where the healers get dropped and its a one shot kill. I actually think they r more likely to add a lvl 5 healer than nerf them.

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Originally Posted by Sandalhat

Healers are already susceptible to air mine that cost gold instead of DE now.

Any further nerf and they will be completely useless.

With correctly placed AD and teslas plus air mines, giant healer should not be a problem to your defense.

As for healer hogs, well the hogs are the ones causing problems.

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Yeah i completely understand. Thx for reading and commenting. I do believe that
the hogs need another slight nerf as they are still way overpowered for all town hall lvls other than 10. Without infernos, u have to have a good base and a lot of luck in my experience with them.

You should run an anti-hog base as th9 to prevent from getting hogged. Once you are th10 and you have infernos, there will more setups you can utilize as the infernos alone and extra splash damage from maxed splash towers and bombs should help with the hogs.

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Originally Posted by PRED

Yeah i completely understand. Thx for reading and commenting. I do believe that
the hogs need another slight nerf as they are still way overpowered for all town hall lvls other than 10. Without infernos, u have to have a good base and a lot of luck in my experience with them.

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the other day I ran over a close to maxed townhall 8 with 21 hogs a healing spell and rage spell those hogs just crushed that base I took the base in about 1 min flat no lie

I think that healers themselves are very weak due to them being weak from seeking air mines but healing spells need to be nerfed while the inferno anti heal needs to be removed in the same update

I think healers and heal spells are both about right.

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Originally Posted by Cerian

I think healers and heal spells are both about right.

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I'm of the same opinion. The main issue with hogs is defensive targeting, and usually it's a heal spell, which can't be shot doesn't. The healer has it's vulnerabilities, but when it comes to healers and hogs, it's the hogs (if anything) that need to be changed.

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Originally Posted by Bfoz

I think that healers themselves are very weak due to them being weak from seeking air mines but healing spells need to be nerfed while the inferno anti heal needs to be removed in the same update

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Agree with the bolded statement 100%.

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Originally Posted by Cerian

I think healers and heal spells are both about right.

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I believe healers are just fine, the heal spell itself however is slightly OP.

I would have much preferred to see a slight heal spell nerf then an idiot proof inferno upgrade.

Who needs a good base design when you can just put an inferno tower onto disco mode...

The problem lies in wall jumping hogs. I have spent millions and millions of coin on wall and too many times I've watched my incredible base be whipped out by hogs. I have a maxed TH 8 base and I mean maxed! Traps, troops, barb king, pumps, drill and mines...literally maxed. I think make a limit on the number of walls a hog can hop, or if a hog rider is damaged more than 50% make him loose his pig so hes just a guy with a hammer then...loosing his ability to jump walls.

Healers are easily owned by rank 1 seeking air mines. Further, they are slow and do not keep up with hogs well. I tried hog healer a number of times and gave up on that. Even maxed giant healer isn't OP vs a good layout and ranked TH9 defenses. If you are dying to it a lot, your defense strategy sucks or you haven't ranked properly. I would actually advocate nerfing inferno to four targets and only half healing reduction vs healers (still full vs heal spells), and I'm saying that as someone who has done many attacks with hogs or giant healer and also successful defenses. Inferno is currently an automatic win even if the rest of the defenses are total ♥♥♥♥.

Vs healer giant:
- Make sure to use all your seeking air mines.
- Embed air defenses at least one level in from the outer defense ring.

Vs hogs:
- Place clan castle in the exact center of the map, with AQ nearby. Cover the entire map with your base.
- Place your spring traps in the center compartment, between pairs of defenses.
- Place giant bombs internally as well, and next to defenses, where hogs will stack on them. Rank the giant bombs for more range.

I rarely lost more than half my storages vs either type of attack late in TH9 even. With one inferno tower now as a fresh TH10, nobody even bothers to try. Infernos are OP, and hogs and giant healer are not. Your bases just suck.

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Originally Posted by OwnerOfInsomniacMob

The problem lies in wall jumping hogs. I have spent millions and millions of coin on wall and too many times I've watched my incredible base be whipped out by hogs. I have a maxed TH 8 base and I mean maxed! Traps, troops, barb king, pumps, drill and mines...literally maxed. I think make a limit on the number of walls a hog can hop, or if a hog rider is damaged more than 50% make him loose his pig so hes just a guy with a hammer then...loosing his ability to jump walls.

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Any half-decent TH9 can own a TH8 with at least four or five different kinds of attacks. Maxed hogs are TH9, and nerfing them into total uselessness will not prevent you from dying, it'll just change the troop mix. The real issue is that the current loot system no longer has loot penalties, so higher TH levels can attack you without losing any loot. This favors noob stomping over fighting players your own level. I see TH10's fighting at silver and w♥♥♥♥ing inactive TH7's with trash troops, the loot per hour is better than what you get fighting TH9 or TH10.

Hogs are easily defeated with the right layout and ranked defenses at TH9.

For the hogs, there are a bunch of anti hog bases out there, you just need to find the right one :)

If anything healers need a buff

Disco infernos, or any infernos for that matter nerfed healers enough. They are only really usefu;l against TH9 and lower.

I cannot disagree with the OP anymore. There are Air bombs and giant air bombs and now that healers/heal spell are useless vs infernos. What are they left to be good for? We need to stop nerfing troops period. This game is reminding me of Battlenations. They create an overpowered troops everyone wants and one month later it is useless.